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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 3:00:10 AM |
height doesn't matter as long as you're honest about it.
Well, that depends on the woman, doesn't it? When it comes to self-image, I think women have it much worse off than men, because biologically speaking, men are more superficial. Men have lower standards and they are mostly physical, whereas women's standards are mostly economic (depending on the context, of course...women would rather marry a short, bald rich guy but have an affair with the pool boy).
That being said, even women have biological prerogatives when it comes to mating, and height is as good a proxy for health as anything (mostly a proxy for good nutrition, but also for genetic history). So guys shouldn't feel bad if a woman rejects them because they are short...the women literally cannot help themselves any more than guys could look straight ahead while running a gauntlet of Playboy Playmates.
The people who are really screwed are the ones looking for something outside the norm and who are themselves outside the norm. Average people have it easy, because they have the most choices. The key to success is being willing to compromise. People who are single either like being single or have unreasonably high standards (or a little of both, like me).
Consider that historically (meaning, 99% of human history), humans lived, married, raised a family and died within 5-10 miles of their birthplace (and in many cases in a much smaller area than that). Under those circumstances, you didn't have a whole lot of options from which to be picky. Today, you can pick someone from the other side of the globe, which, even limiting to just first-world populations, still gives you a pool of over a billion people from which to choose (well, technically, the available people are a fraction of that...maybe 10%). Still, choosing one in a 100 million is a pretty intimidating choice, and a lot of people are afraid to get it wrong or just feel they can do better than they are right now.
If you think like a person living in small-town America a hundred years ago, you'd just pick the nearest person that will put up with you, and marry them. Problem solved. The era of the "designer partner" is thoroughly modern (at least for the working class) and obviously not terribly successful on the whole (people with very specific requirements tend to find fault with everyone they meet, and pass up a lot of good options). If someone excludes you from their circle of eligibility, just consider that they lie outside many others' circles as well. That's just human nature. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 7:34:53 AM | | I'm 6'1" and I have met women over 5'9" tall. Thanks God I can go with shorties and tall women as well :)~ | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 7:40:06 AM | | That women prefer tall men is all about novels, the media and reality shows. Tall men(Over 5'10") represent confidence, power and intellect(especially tall and lean men). While short men represent all the contrary. But there short men that are the bomb within females like Tom Cruise for example! lol | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 7:55:07 AM | It has nothing to do with novels, media or TV shows. It's all about being comfortable with your partner, and if you are a 5'8" woman, you are not going to be comfortable dancing with someone who is shorter than you are.
For the shorter men? Go find shorter women, it's pretty easy to figure this one out. 
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 8:08:46 AM | Hi Kate;
This reply is going to you're post will be the same as one of my past reply to "Why date tall men!
O.K. my ex wife stands 4"10" I asked her prior to marriage why she wanted to marry me, she said I want my children to grow tall I stand 5"11" Um!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing wrong with dating or marring shorter men or women.
Take Care
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 8:11:49 AM |
But there short men that are the bomb within females like Tom Cruise for example! lol
Height can be easily overlooked when you are incredibly rich and famous. So there you go short guys. Get rich and famous. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 9:36:57 AM |
That being said, even women have biological prerogatives when it comes to mating, and height is as good a proxy for health as anything (mostly a proxy for good nutrition, but also for genetic history). So guys shouldn't feel bad if a woman rejects them because they are short...the women literally cannot help themselves any more than guys could look straight ahead while running a gauntlet of Playboy Playmates.
I don't think this is entirely (or mostly) true. I think society and culture have a lot to do with the choices that people make. In China, female foot binding was the standard of attractiveness for thousands of years. Then, through an importation of other cultures, that went away completely in a matter of only thirty years. Culture is a very powerful force that is hard to overcome.
One woman just posted that the answer to short men finding women is to simply look for women who are shorter than them. This, of course, ignores the fact that women look for men who are tall relative to other men and so short women don't seem to want short men anymore than tall women. But more importantly, it makes a cultural trend into some-sort-of universal truth (i.e. "the man must be taller than the woman").
I'm not saying that there is no biological reason for heightism (just like there is probably a biological reason for racism), I'm just saying that the cultural aspect is stronger and more difficult to overcome than the biological component. So the idea that "women cannot help themselves" is ridiculous. Of course, there may not be a compelling reason for women to change, but the idea that it is "hard-wired" is as absurd as the idea that men are "hard-wired" to cheat on their wives.
Also, why shouldn't short men feel bad if what you say is true? You are basically saying that they represent bad nutrition and bad genetic history. Is this not offensive? I personally find that silly.
If you look at a grove of trees, you will notice that some trees grow taller than others, and some trees grow in different shapes. Variation is a part of life. I think to say that one tree is a result of a "bad genetic history" is a mistake of perception.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 9:59:05 AM | I'm with you there. I have always dated tall men 6' +. I love having to look up at them,and know that they have these big long arms to wrap round you,makes you feel snug and like nothing can break through those arms,daft i know!
What i really dislike is when you get chatting to men, they tell you,and have on their profile that they are tall,then you meet them and they are the same height as you. Why lie,it's not going to get you anywhere,especially with women that are looking for a tall man,and that is their prefferance.
Sorry guys!! | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 10:06:46 AM | I am with most of the ladies on here. I am 5'7 and wear heels on most days. I need a man who is over 6 feet to feel feminine. It is just natural. In most mammals the male is larger then the female.
Height is number one on my must have list (okay number three after job and car LOL). | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 10:11:01 AM |
What i really dislike is when you get chatting to men, they tell you,and have on their profile that they are tall,then you meet them and they are the same height as you. Why lie,it's not going to get you anywhere,especially with women that are looking for a tall man,and that is their prefferance.
Maybe there should be a "prefer not to say" option for height. Y'know, like some people choose for their body type. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 10:12:44 AM |
I am with most of the ladies on here. I am 5'7 and wear heels on most days. I need a man who is over 6 feet to feel feminine. It is just natural. In most mammals the male is larger then the female.
That's true. Same when men like a women who is slim with a hot body. It makes them feel more masculine. It's just natural. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 10:56:20 AM | That's true. Same when men like a women who is slim with a hot body. It makes them feel more masculine. It's just natural.
I can only speak for myself. But a woman's body type has nothing to do with me feeling masculine. I have dated chubby women and slim/fit women. I didn't feel less masculine when I was with the chubby women. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:08:20 AM | I am with most of the ladies on here. I am 5'7 and wear heels on most days. I need a man who is over 6 feet to feel feminine. It is just natural. In most mammals the male is larger then the female.
I don't need a tall man to feel feminine. A few of my previous boyfriends were over 6 ft tall. A few others were only 5'6" or 5'7". I didn't feel more feminine with the taller men just because of their height. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:17:19 AM | | I'm 5'5" so mens height was never an issue for me. My husband wasnt much taller than I was. I think it stems from some inate reason to be protected. Nothing conscious, just the thought that tallness equals strength. Of course its not true. Ive met some really tall whimps who would have run or stood behind me for protection. lol | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:19:02 AM | | The hottest guy I ever dated was shorter than me. as long as someone doesn't mind me wearing my lovely heels I have no problem with height | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:22:02 AM | Okay...I feel that I must take part in this one, especially because I am one of those women who just adores tall men. I really have no *logical* reasoning behind it. It truly is just a preference and not a requirement. Now before I go any further, I stand 5' 7" and I too like to wear heels...now that puts me at being 5' 9" to 5' 11" depending on which shoes I'm wearing. I simply love the way I feel with I am with a guy who *towers* over me...I love to be able to lay my head upon his chest and hear his heart beat wildly out of control *because* I am in his arms.
Believe me, I take my fair share of s h i t from guys who are not in my preferred height range...which is beginning to get old...really guys, get a grip. I'm not picking on you....and it is no cause for any one to get their nickers in a knot. Some guys out there go as far as to actually be mean and belittling to those of us who have a preference for a tall drink of water so to speak. All I can say to that is this....It truly isn't meant to be insulting, and if you are insulted by my preferences or anyone else's, well then perhaps you need therapy. And I agree to what has already been said many times...it is no different than those who have preferences to blonds over redheads....DD cups over a C cup....long hair over short hair....Petite to Voluptuous. What it all boils down to is that as individuals, we are all different and we all like what we like...I'm not going to settle for less that what I feel is right for me...and neither should anyone else.
Okay....I'm done now.....jeeze.....who woke me up? 
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:25:53 AM | | I have dated shorter guys and it's more a case of them having an issue with my height than me with theirs! At 5'10" I love to wear high heels. Some people hate being tall but I love it. So what if I prefer to go out with taller guys, its my personal taste. If we all liked short guys then there would be some very lonely tall guys in the world! | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:29:30 AM | Kate
I enjoy your comments. I am 5'5" and dated and was married to taller women. When a woman says she won't consider a man for height she is limiting her future. I hahve been told that I am a better kisser, lover , friend, and provider than taller men they dated. I do know that we all have our likes and dislikes. I don't like fat women.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:31:54 AM | | I guess it is similar to average where they are at least 40 lbs overweight. AS in Men and BBW women | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:33:33 AM | You're post makes total sense moonwater65, This part caught my eye:
And I agree to what has already been said many times...it is no different than those who have preferences to blonds over redheads....DD cups over a C cup....long hair over short hair....Petite to Voluptuous Read many threads where a guy says he wants a woman with DDs who isn't overweight? Disgusted by it? Well, most women are.
I related a story in another thread about height awhile back. I remember a girl in a bar I was chatting up telling me at one point that she couldn't go out with me because she was attracted to taller men. I said, "that's OK, I'm generally attracted to thinner women, but I'm willing to make an exception in your case." Well, she freaked. She called me rude and insensitive, not to mention shallow.
Now, why was it OK for her to pass judgement on my height, and openly express it, while it was wrong for me to pass judgement on an aspect of her physical appearance.
You see, this is one of the big problems. Women are quite flippant about openly judging a man on their height yet get all pissy when a man judges them on an aspect of their physical appearance. Then we hear that old whiney rebuttal: "It's what's inside that counts!!"
Let me ask you this ladies, ifyou see a women's profile and the headline says "Looking for a tall man" do you find that distasteful. How about if you see a man's profile that says "Looking for a thin women" or "Looking for a women with big breasts." | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:38:06 AM | I don't think this is entirely (or mostly) true. I think society and culture have a lot to do with the choices that people make. In China, female foot binding was the standard of attractiveness for thousands of years. Then, through an importation of other cultures, that went away completely in a matter of only thirty years. Culture is a very powerful force that is hard to overcome.
Precisely.
One woman just posted that the answer to short men finding women is to simply look for women who are shorter than them. This, of course, ignores the fact that women look for men who are tall relative to other men and so short women don't seem to want short men anymore than tall women. But more importantly, it makes a cultural trend into some-sort-of universal truth (i.e. "the man must be taller than the woman").
And the man older than the woman, and the man have more money than the woman, heck, what about that the man be SMARTER than the woman: that used to be presumed apriori but no longer is. Strange that I do not see many women wanting to go back to THAT particular once-held "universal truth"
I'm not saying that there is no biological reason for heightism (just like there is probably a biological reason for racism),
It was considered "scientific" and "the truth" as recently as the late nineteenth and early twentieth century that darker skinned people were "genetically inferior cognitively" -a presumption that thankfully is no longer widely held in society. The "biological reason for racism" in eras past was more a biological inclination towards being against those who were different: a zenophobia that embraced differences of appearance, religion, social customs/mores, etc.
I'm just saying that the cultural aspect is stronger and more difficult to overcome than the biological component. So the idea that "women cannot help themselves" is ridiculous.
Oh yes, I forgot about that one.
Of course, there may not be a compelling reason for women to change, but the idea that it is "hard-wired" is as absurd as the idea that men are "hard-wired" to cheat on their wives.
That is also a bunch of bunk. We are capable as rational beings of controlling our baser urges. That does not mean we always succeed of course as society is full of people who had moments of weakness and the like. But the idea that cheating is somehow "hard wired" is a lie that gives an excuse to the cheater and insults all of those who do not cheat because (logically) if it is hardwired to cheat, then those who do not are obviously somehow "biologically defective." I prefer the view that those who cheat are the ones at fault rather than impugn those who view commitment as something they take seriously (if they have made a commitment of course).
Also, why shouldn't short men feel bad if what you say is true? You are basically saying that they represent bad nutrition and bad genetic history. Is this not offensive? I personally find that silly.
If you look at a grove of trees, you will notice that some trees grow taller than others, and some trees grow in different shapes. Variation is a part of life. I think to say that one tree is a result of a "bad genetic history" is a mistake of perception.
Well said again. 
The problem with going about refuting that sort of statement is it makes the person doing the refuting sound as if they were somehow involved into a "complex" of sorts. And that feeds into the whole "short man's complex" schtick creating a really nice lose-lose situation where myths like that continue to perpetuate. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 11:40:57 AM | Being 6 ft myself I don't have a problem with women not wanting me for shortness. I myself don't care how tall a woman is as long as she like wearing high heels and boots (all the time  ).
I do find short petite women very sexy tho. | |
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