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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 9:01:20 PM | I think another issue to take into consideration is the fact that some guys doesn't bother asking taller girls out anymore because they just assume that they will be rejected because the majority of girls like taller guys. I mean statiscally from reading all the posts from numerous short guy threads there are girls out there that don't mind dating a shorter guy albeit there's not many.
But because of this widespread issue, it's tougher for the shorter guys to just go ahead and ask, because the odds are against them.
So on top of the fact that rejection plays a role in determining whether to ask a girl out or not when there's already such bad odds against him, I guess it's just a double edge sword for the short guys in a sense. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 10:16:23 PM | Yup gotta love the double Standard... Ladies get to bash and disciminate the short guy... But God forbid a guy says he wants a Thin woman with big breast... All hell breaks loose..  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 10:28:52 PM | ^^^^
That's incorrect, men and women are both shallow it has nothing to do with hypocracy. and I've seen many women who weren't all that much to look at say they wanted a guy who was tall, good looking rich etc. I'm not a tub of lard I'm slim, which means it's fair if I say I would like a slim woman. Just like it would be fair for an athletic man to say he wants an athletic woman. it's all about staying in your "league" Men and women are both guily of this even on POF I've seen plenty of fat unattractive women say they wouldnt date a short guy. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/3/2008 10:30:24 PM | I'm 5'7" and I seem to attract guys my height maybe an inch shorter or taller. I even wear my heels and they don't seem to mind that I'm taller and I didn't have a problem that they are shorter . However I did have a slight disagreement with some tall guys. I really, really like tall guys also and only some of the ones that I have spoken to or thru email with, say they don't fine tall girls sexy. " They prefer shorties." It took me a minute to digest that because I know I could be just as sexy and even sexier than a shortie...lol but I have to respect there decisions on what they like and want. I do know for a fact not all tall guys are like that. The bottom line ladies and gents, you shouldn't limit yourself to specifics because you never know.
Tall or short I don't have a problem with either. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 1:18:38 AM | Well...I, personally can not comment on the other thread...I wasn't around then...But I will certainly address this...no fear here....lmao
Option #1) I do accept all "preferences" and I also encourage everyone to express their preferences...not just men...and not just women...after all, aren't our "preferences" a form of individualism? And aren't we all individuals with "preferences" regardless of what they may be? I think to a degree we all "objectify" something on some level....
Option #2) I also believe that again, to a degree we are all shallow....we are all carnal beings and it is simple to understand that what ever turns you on about another human being is nothing more than carnal lust...and hey...if it's your eyes that turns me on, I will certainly tell you about it, just the same as if it are your ass that turns me on....
All too often we are all guilty of not seeing the personality beneath the surface...I do as I have said, prefer taller men and my reasons are purely selfish...but, you know what, I'm allowed to be selfish and so are you...Why would anyone not think that their desires aren't important? I'm not saying that I wouldn't date someone under 6' tall...It's not mandatory, which is why it is called a preference...because it is what we prefer....just because purple is my favorite color, doesn't mean I ignore the rest of the crayons....
I am seeing that this tends to be a sore spot for quite a few guys....just like weight is a sore subject for quite a few women....
Quite simply do we really have a right to get so upset because someone else's preferences don't suit our preferences???? If we only go around once...shouldn't we have it the way we prefer it? | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 1:24:58 AM | Okay...so I'm a newbie....lol....someone please tell me how to put what I was commenting on in the box along my comment on the comment....any comments??? 
Yes....I have lost it completely....all because of this thread.....
Okay...now I feel even sillier because I just saw the little thingy that tells me how to quote...ah well....welcome to my world.... | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 7:16:26 AM |
Are you kidding masked hero that's the message that all women get every single day loud and clear.No woman is in doubt that unless she is skinny with big boobs then even the fattest,baldest and ugliest guy will turn up his nose at her.The fact that all men want slender women even when they are tubs of lard themselves is very well known to us.Men are the biggest hypocrites out there.
Sorry but no little guys need apply.
Hmmm, you don't seem to be particularly tolerant of those men. Why don't you commend them for expressing their preferences. You seem to have no problem expressing your preference for taller men (and not in a particularly tactful way I might add).
So it's safe to assume that you wouldn't find it at all problematic or distasteful if a guy wrote something in his profile like "Sorry, but no fat girls need apply." Or "small breasted blondes." | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 7:38:43 AM |
Option #1) I do accept all "preferences" and I also encourage everyone to express their preferences...not just men...and not just women...after all, aren't our "preferences" a form of individualism? And aren't we all individuals with "preferences" regardless of what they may be? I think to a degree we all "objectify" something on some level....
So, in relation to my story I mentioned in an earlier post, when the girl at the bar told me I was too short for her to go out with, there was no reason for her to get mad at me when I mentioned "that I usually date women thinner than her." Why do you suppose she got so angry when I was simply mentioning a physical preference the same way she did? And moonwater65, would you be at all disturbed if you were turned down because you were too heavy, and the person came right out and told you that. Or would you expect them to have a little more tact. If you say that you would be alright with it, I'm not so sure I believe you.
Option #2) I also believe that again, to a degree we are all shallow....we are all carnal beings and it is simple to understand that what ever turns you on about another human being is nothing more than carnal lust...and hey...if it's your eyes that turns me on, I will certainly tell you about it, just the same as if it are your ass that turns me on....
Yep, I agree about the carnal lust part. And for the record, I don't even assign the label "shallow" to such lust. I call it natural, biological impulses. My major gripe is that there isn't a level playing field when it comes to expressing these preferences.
All too often we are all guilty of not seeing the personality beneath the surface...I do as I have said, prefer taller men and my reasons are purely selfish...but, you know what, I'm allowed to be selfish and so are you...Why would anyone not think that their desires aren't important? I'm not saying that I wouldn't date someone under 6' tall...It's not mandatory, which is why it is called a preference...because it is what we prefer....just because purple is my favorite color, doesn't mean I ignore the rest of the crayons....
And never once have I argued against preferences. I just find it quite ironic that women aren't particularly tolerant of men who express them when it comes to physical appearance, yet women get a free pass when it comes to the whole height thing. I have found that when this double standard is pointed out to some women, they suddenly become very tolerant and say "Actually, I think it's perfectly OK for a man to openly express his physical preferences, no matter what they are." I don't buy it. I think they're only backtracking in order that no stigma be attached to women expressing their preference for height. They don't really want guys being open about the fact that they aren't so wild about fat and/or small breasted women.
I am seeing that this tends to be a sore spot for quite a few guys....just like weight is a sore subject for quite a few women....
Which is why I also asked earlier, how many women would find it distasteful if a women's profile headline read "Looking for a tall man." Very few I expect. At the same time do they find it distasteful if a man's were to read "Looking for thin women" or "Looking for a large breasted women"
Quite simply do we really have a right to get so upset because someone else's preferences don't suit our preferences???? If we only go around once...shouldn't we have it the way we prefer it?
I completely agree. So, yes, let's all have our preferences and not be afraid to express them.
Guys, don't be afraid to mention in your profile if you don't like dating overweight women, or women with small breasts, or big noses, or large butts, etc.
And women, stop being offended when men do that. Pat them on the back and give them kudos for not being afraid to express their "preferences." | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 7:41:31 AM | | Height is not important to me. I'm 5' 10". The tallest man I dated is 6' 3" and the shortest man I dated was 5' 6" which is 4 inches shorter than me. Women have a right to date whoever they date. But they are limiting if they refuse to date a man because he is 1-2 inches under their ideal height requirement. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 7:49:11 AM | am seeing that this tends to be a sore spot for quite a few guys....just like weight is a sore subject for quite a few women....
Quite simply do we really have a right to get so upset because someone else's preferences don't suit our preferences????
A height preference/ requirement itself isn't necessary offensive. But some of the reasons given for a height preference/ requirement on various height threads are insulting. Such as short men have "Napoleon Complex" or a taller man can "protect" a woman better. If a woman stated that she wouldn't date a black man she thinks all black men are lazy and stupid, then she would be criticized for making these comments. Same thing should apply to height.
Are you kidding masked hero that's the message that all women get every single day loud and clear.No woman is in doubt that unless she is skinny with big boobs then even the fattest,baldest and ugliest guy will turn up his nose at her.The fact that all men want slender women even when they are tubs of lard themselves is very well known to us.Men are the biggest hypocrites out there.
Not true. Some men are attracted to women from various body types. Some men Some men aren't attracted to slim women and prefer average sized or chubby women.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 8:43:59 AM | So, in relation to my story I mentioned in an earlier post, when the girl at the bar told me I was too short for her to go out with, there was no reason for her to get mad at me when I mentioned "that I usually date women thinner than her." Why do you suppose she got so angry when I was simply mentioning a physical preference the same way she did? And moonwater65, would you be at all disturbed if you were turned down because you were too heavy, and the person came right out and told you that. Or would you expect them to have a little more tact. If you say that you would be alright with it, I'm not so sure I believe you.
Oh but Heathen......I have had the arrow of preference put through my heart...I'm not saying that tact and decorum isn't necessary....because it truly is....Although it is only speculation but I would suppose that it hurt her feelings a bit...just as it hurt yours to hear her words...They can be like daggers you know....And I have been told out right that I was too heavy for them to date....it hurt like hell....but it wasn't said because I turned him down...in fact he was a bit on the short side...and quite thin....suffered from little man syndrome. Long story there... but of course I would expect a bit more tact...(FYI...I was with this man for 7 years, so can't say that I didn't try)
Now let me ask you Heathen....Your comment to this girl...did you shoot it back at her out of malice? Was it a pay back rebuttal? Did you only say to try to sting her as she stung you?
I completely agree. So, yes, let's all have our preferences and not be afraid to express them.
Guys, don't be afraid to mention in your profile if you don't like dating overweight women, or women with small breasts, or big noses, or large butts, etc.
And women, stop being offended when men do that. Pat them on the back and give them kudos for not being afraid to express their "preferences."
Honey...you have obviously never read some of the profiles put out there....trust me...they aren't afraid to mention these things...and I do say Kudos to anyone that has the balls to say what they do or do not want in a mate....but as far as the breast issue goes...how would you or any other man out there handle it if some gal were to put in her profile "small penis's need not apply"???? Now that wouldn't be very nice either....But no matter your preference....I think that each and everyone of us needs to remember, we all hurt the same at the hand of some cruel tongue...."If you cut me, do I not bleed?"
Now let's everyone play nice.....
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 9:05:04 AM | | We all have to admit that we are bias to certain things, if we are truly honest. I find myself turning down men that cant spell common words... Im no genius myself but my messages dont have to be decoded... | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 9:05:28 AM | Oh but Heathen......I have had the arrow of preference put through my heart...I'm not saying that tact and decorum isn't necessary....because it truly is....Although it is only speculation but I would suppose that it hurt her feelings a bit...just as it hurt yours to hear her words...They can be like daggers you know....
Yes, but my point is that I expect a lot of women would say that her expressing her height preference to me outright, and affirming I didn't fit that preference was perfectly OK. Whereas my expressing a weight preference that she didn't necessarily fit into was not OK. It was mean and shallow.
But, as far as I was concerned the gloves were off once she felt it was OK to make her comments regarding my height (And I'm just 5'9. Is that even short?)
So let me ask you ladies, does anyone think it was OK for her to express a height preference, and I shouldn't have been bothered by it, while it was wrong for me to mention a weight preference and it was perfectly OK for her to be bothered by it.
And I have been told out right that I was too heavy for them to date....it hurt like hell....but it wasn't said because I turned him down...in fact he was a bit on the short side...and quite thin....suffered from little man syndrome.
Of course it hurt. Perhaps thats why shorter guys have this "little man syndrome" of which you speak. They're sick of how women so flippantly judge men on their height but can't absorb like criticisms in return.
Just out of curiousity is there such thing as "fat women syndrome" - anger and bitterness caused by a body type that isn't considered the norm or the ideal?
Honey...you have obviously never read some of the profiles put out there....trust me...they aren't afraid to mention these things...and I do say Kudos to anyone that has the balls to say what they do or do not want in a mate....
Good for you. I know for a fact most women aren't quite as enlightened as you are. And I don't doubt such profiles exist. I'm just doubtful that women are particularly tolerant of them.
but as far as the breast issue goes...how would you or any other man out there handle it if some gal were to put in her profile "small penis's need not apply"????
If someone expressed such a sentiment regarding penis size I would repeat exactly what you just said "I do say Kudos to anyone that has the balls to say what they do or do not want in a mate."
And I wouldn't be particularly offended anyway since I would be eligible to apply.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 11:31:11 AM | | Thanks moonwater65. I'm very much impressived with the convictions of your opinions and your logical nature, even if I don't necessarily agree with everything you say. But, wouldn't life be boring if we all agreed with each other. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 11:44:18 AM | | is 5' 6" considered to short? I dated someone that was 5' 8" only time it was wierd was when we danced. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 11:48:28 AM | i prefer a man thats taller and w a bigger frame than me, because I DON'T WANNA LOOK LIKE I AM THE MAN
ive dated guys shorter AND thinner than me. their short n skinny self only made me that much more self conscious about the few pounds i have over, and i felt like i was big mamma next to them. so it's not about being SHORT, rather about being SHORTER THAN THE WOMAN.
i'd rather feel feminine and womanly
also, often i wear BIG heels, 6 inches and up. which means, me being 5ft9, i am around 6ft3 or more on heels, and i want to feel free to wear what i like without worrying about his offended self esteem.
plus, its a HUUUUUUUUUUUGE turn on for a man to be heavy enough to press u down while u r having sex. if he is like a feather am not feeling squished or taken over, and i kinda like that, u know barbaric as it may be. if he can't physically dominate me, then he is more boyish, and don't get me wrong, thats cute as a puppy, but doesn't get my hormones raging and crazy. i like a man that can fold and mold me.
just being honest!!!!!!!!!!
doesn't mean i disregard them instantly, just that i'm a tall woman w a large frame, and i'd rather feel delicate next to u, then like a russian tank... LOL
having said that, though, i've dated plenty short ones too.
because, after all, if its the right person, thats all that matters, the way they look matters a lot less. so young, old, beautiful, unattractive, fit or fat, i date them all, i go MAINLY by chemistry, then analyze the dynamic, pros n cons, w my mind.
preferences however, i DO have. and i like them taller and bigger than me for sure. a man is most tasty when manly he he he. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 11:57:14 AM | | Well I'll admit I'm not comfortable with dating someone that is way taller than me. 5'9" is to tall for me. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 12:09:09 PM | | Most women have the - I don't date guys that are shorter than me attitute, guess it's a girl thing!!!!! | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 1:22:35 PM |
I'm 5'8" and have always been more attracted to taller men. I have dated guys my height, but they always ask me not to wear heels so that they don't feel and look short when we go out in public. My ex's comments about my height and me feeling as if I was restricted to sneakers or flats all of the time gave me this self consciousness about my height. Even though we have been broken up for 2 years, I still have a hard time buying or wearing heels, because I feel like every guy in the club is staring at me!
I would never ask you NOT TO WEAR high heels. The taller the better in my book. I am a short man and I am attracted to taller women or women my height. I will not discrimnate and not a date a shorter woman. I just prefer woman my hight or taller. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 1:49:48 PM | i have nothing against short guys....i have plenty of guy friends that could be labeled short. my whole take on dating, though, is that i like to have a guy my height (5'6") or taller. i don't exactly know why, but i think it may have something to do with wanting to feel petite and precious and i think it's a preference that makes you feel more feminine. i personally don't want to feel like an amazon next to a guy. even the guy friends that i have that are short seek women that are shorter than they, so they can feel like a protector.  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:04:37 PM | Are you kidding masked hero that's the message that all women get every single day loud and clear.No woman is in doubt that unless she is skinny with big boobs then even the fattest,baldest and ugliest guy will turn up his nose at her.
I will not deny that media images and society even places unfair standards on what is "acceptable" and what is not. But let me get this straight:
You are saying that something which *can* be changed is to be put on the same level as something which *cannot* be changed annakat? Oh yes, height is something that can be changed and indeed may need to be due to the tremendous health hazards that it can involve but weight is something that cannot be changed anymore than the color of the sky.
But of course, how silly of me for not seeing the "clarity" of your "logic" there 
The fact that all men want slender women even when they are tubs of lard themselves is very well known to us.Men are the biggest hypocrites out there.
All men huh? Gee, there is no stereotyping is going on there right? I can think of a lot of blonde jokes but have no interest in perpetuating other stereotypes.
Sorry but no little guys need apply.
I am not interested in small-minded women anyway  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 3:31:49 PM | I'm 5'7" and I seem to attract guys my height maybe an inch shorter or taller. I even wear my heels and they don't seem to mind that I'm taller and I didn't have a problem that they are shorter .
Obviously you are a woman secure in yourself and are likewise dating men who are secure in themselves. Of course I would want you to wear heels too...three to four inch ones if you did not mind 
However I did have a slight disagreement with some tall guys. I really, really like tall guys also and only some of the ones that I have spoken to or thru email with, say they don't fine tall girls sexy. " They prefer shorties." It took me a minute to digest that because I know I could be just as sexy and even sexier than a shortie...lol but I have to respect there decisions on what they like and want.
Look on the bright side: you did not have to wait long to see if they were shallow people so it saved you time.
I do know for a fact not all tall guys are like that.
Indeed, all of any group of people are not like or possessing of any one view on issues. Based on the way a number of people on these forums talk, it is evident that the same ingredients that brewed strong gumbos of racism and sexism in eras past are still around concocting new recipes unfortunately.
The bottom line ladies and gents, you shouldn't limit yourself to specifics because you never know.
Well, a bit of specifics are fine. I like to say do not limit what cannot be changed, only what can be. And be open to "works in progress" because someone willing to improve themselves is worth giving particular consideration to.
Tall or short I don't have a problem with either.
Well said  The same goes for older and younger too within reason of course. (A subject for another time perhaps.) | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 4:42:28 PM | Hi Kate,I do prefer shorter guys because they are all taller than me.I'm just a little taller than 5' tall.Where are all the short guys anyway.  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/4/2008 5:59:16 PM | | Everyone has their preferences as to what they find most attractive on the outside, but that doesn't mean that they don't look past the outside to see the inside of a person. I have my preferences just like everyone else as I said in my previous post, but that doesn't mean that I limit myself based on the outside of a person...I look at the individual. The inside of a person is what is most attractive to me. You may find that once you see the inside of the person, they become more attractive to you on the outside too. I don't choose a man based on height...I choose him based on inner qualities. | |
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