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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 6:33:39 AM | | What I find annoying is, seeing a 5'4/5'5" woman, who will date a man no less than 6 feet tall, I mean, what's up with that? I thought being taller than a woman was good enough?? | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 7:10:58 AM |
While women might like tall guys I find I usually find shorter women more attractive.
Tall women can often look masculine with big faces and features.
I have yet to have good sex with taller women ?
Bigger woman bigger hole ?
WTF?!?! 
I've had 2 girlfriends who were taller than me, not by much, but they were still taller. The sex with them was quite good. Then again, sex and dancing in my personal opinion is better when both are about the same height. I've slow danced with girls much shorter than myself and the next day I felt like I needed a chiropracter. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 7:25:25 AM |
What I find annoying is, seeing a 5'4/5'5" woman, who will date a man no less than 6 feet tall, I mean, what's up with that? I thought being taller than a woman was good enough??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness
According to this webpage, a woman is normally attracted to guys who are 1.1 times her height. For a woman who's 5'4", a guy who's at least 5'10" will be attractive to her (at least height-wise). Now what *I* find annoying is that most adult American women are at least 5'4" or 5'5" since I'm only 5'7".
I hear guys whining all the time about how a woman won't choose him because of his height (or lack thereof). At 5'7" I'm in that boat too. Let's face it, fellow gentlemen, an American woman who's in her 20s or 30s and is at least halfway decent-looking have their pick of the litter; therefore, they can be choosy. High demand and low supply means higher prices. The guy who impresses her the most will win her at the end of the day.
I say height-challenged guys like me should look for love in Latin America or Asia where the average height for females is well under 5'5". I saw this documentary where guys in China have this procedure done to lengthen the bones of their lower legs, many because their girlfriends had left them for a taller guy. That procedure is Russian in origin, but the Chinese have adopted it and improved on it. Still, it looks quite invasive and painful. It takes a year to recover from it, so if you can afford to not work for a year, then go for it! | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 7:39:42 AM | TKD....I am like 5'9" which isn't too bad, however, I bet if you met this women in real life (out and about) they wouldn't even notice your ht., but ONline, theyll ignore you, because they see your "stats"
In person, chances are they'd be willing to over look a few inches. Because they simply don't notice how short you are (esp the 5'4" women) | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 8:22:25 AM |
TKD....I am like 5'9" which isn't too bad, however, I bet if you met this women in real life (out and about) they wouldn't even notice your ht., but ONline, theyll ignore you, because they see your "stats"
Exactly! That's why I will no longer use pay dating sites.
In person, chances are they'd be willing to over look a few inches. Because they simply don't notice how short you are (esp the 5'4" women)
Yeah, I've had much better luck with finding women in real life, especially when I was in college. Colleges seem to be full of young nubile women who are open to trying new things and enjoying life. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 10:39:53 AM | | Guys, I hate to burst the bubble here.. But I'm about 6 ft tall.. and I could never date someone 5'9. Its nothing against short men. I have some great men who are really good friends of mine who are 5'9 and shorter. But, I would feel like I was dating my younger brother.. and ew. And would a short men be comfortable dating a woman who over powers him?? | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 10:49:23 AM |
Guys, I hate to burst the bubble here.. But I'm about 6 ft tall.. and I could never date someone 5'9. Its nothing against short men. I have some great men who are really good friends of mine who are 5'9 and shorter. But, I would feel like I was dating my younger brother.. and ew. And would a short men be comfortable dating a woman who over powers him??
Yeah, but...you're 6 feet tall, you have a better excuse not to be attracted to shorter men.
It's the women that are of average ht., or even the shorter petite women that only date men 6 feet or taller that are being shallow. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 10:49:33 AM | And would a short men be comfortable dating a woman who over powers him??
I'm 5' 10" and I have dated men that were 5' 6" or 5' 7". Height was never an issue for me or for them.
Ok we know where these short guys threads stop . With short men stamping their tiny little feet throwing themselves on the ground and demanding that women be attracted to them.
This has mentioned by many other posters. It's not necessary the height requirement itself. It's some of the reasons for the height requirement which are offensive. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 11:35:42 AM | Ok we know where these short guys threads stop . With short men stamping their tiny little feet throwing themselves on the ground and demanding that women be attracted to them I can only speak for myself and say I have never demanded anything from anyone . It is inane to assume that everyone is attracted to everyone. Just like it is daft to think that all short men have tiny feet, or silly to ponder that all short men have tempers. I just love when people think they are all that and a bag of chips, but they are not my cup of tea. The issue I see here and I only saw one other poster express this, is that people misuse the word Prefference when they mean requirement. A preffernce you can take or leave, a requirement is just that , a requirement. If you will only date certain people that meet certain criteria, you aren't dating them based on prefference, you are dating based upon requirements. If you chosse to date someone who meets or excedds some critera, even if they lack in others, you are dating based upon preffernce. There are ugly people of all hights like there are beautiful people at different weights. Thing about weight is, I can lose mine or gain mine in musckle or do what I want as far as that is concerned. Height on the otherhand, I defy you to find me a perso who has surgery to make them taller. Furthermore, Why change my height in the first place. I like the way I was born, why change to make others happy. The money it would cost if such a precegure exists,would bankrupt me, the time in the hospital and relearning to walk would be staggering. Besides I would look like a freak. I look great right now. Why change . This has mentioned by many other posters. It's not necessary the height requirement itself. It's some of the reasons for the height requirement which are offensive.
I agree!
If you need a man to be taller to feel like a woman, then you are insecure even if you say otherwise. If it is about dancing and wanting to wear heels, that is a a little different.
Heels were invented not so you can look sexy walking around ( that is how they are used now), they were invented so a shorter or averae woman could dance with an average or taller man. If you are the same hight giver or take a few inches, you could wear slippers. Heels arent for comfort and it is a sexist foot wear. I do not mind a woman wearing it for mutual turn on, but I do not require a woman to wear them, ever.
I find the reasons that women wont concider dating a short man just plane silly. I am sad to say that it is what most women want, but anyone who would use reasons shuch as , napoleon complex, Needing to feel feminine around her man, not wanting to look silly in public. Those are your issues, not mine. Own up to them. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 12:34:15 PM | The issue I see here and I only saw one other poster express this, is that people misuse the word Prefference when they mean requirement. A preffernce you can take or leave, a requirement is just that , a requirement. If you will only date certain people that meet certain criteria, you aren't dating them based on prefference, you are dating based upon requirements. If you chosse to date someone who meets or excedds some critera, even if they lack in others, you are dating based upon preffernce.
I have mentioned the difference between a preference and a requirement on other thread. A preference is I like vanilla ice cream, but would consider having other flavors. A requirement is I will ONLY vanilla have ice cream.
I find the reasons that women wont concider dating a short man just plane silly. I am sad to say that it is what most women want, but anyone who would use reasons shuch as , napoleon complex, Needing to feel feminine around her man, not wanting to look silly in public. Those are your issues, not mine. Own up to them.
Don't forget the infamous a taller man can protect a woman better. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 12:41:22 PM |
I have mentioned the difference between a preference and a requirement on other thread. A preference is I like vanilla ice cream, but would consider having other flavors. A requirement is I will ONLY have ice cream.
I'm sure you meant to say I will ONLY have VANILLA ice cream.....
However (and please take this in the "tongue-in-cheek" way it was intended) I can make the leap from this statement to "I have mentioned the difference between a preference and a requirement on other thread. A preference is I like tall men, but would consider other heights. A requirement is I will ONLY have men.
Ducking and running....... | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 12:43:43 PM | lizzie,
You're not bursting any bubbles, but I just may. You made a couple of statements that I'd like you step back from for a sec and consider afresh. First you said above that you could never date someone 5'9", however, you also state in your profile that you're a big fan of trying something new. You're pretty young to be making "never" statements, particularly as youth is a time for experimentation. So, I'd ask that you consider putting your "never" aside just for a short time, and ask out some shorter buff men that don't resemble your younger brother - just for a lark, and see what happens. You might be surprised, particularly if you can let go of some potentially incorrect pre-conceived notions.
Now, regarding your statement about short men being comfortable dating a woman who 'overpowers' him; this could be interpreted several ways. One the most 'overpowering' women I ever loved was a 4'10" Cuban gymnast who spent time in HS learning to fire machine guns and throw grenades before she defected to the US. She would pick me up over her head (just because she could), look up at me dangling there, bat her eyes and ask if I thought she was beautiful. It was all good fun, and neither of us ever related it to a control issue, because we were equal partners. Conversely, and most recently, I dated a 5'11" tennis pro (think of the williams sisters) who loved me to pick her up and swing her around. Physically, she was super strong, and I wouldn't want to meet her in a dark ally, and you know what; it was all irrelevant - we loved each other's company and relished the mutual athleticism of our relationship. In no case, did either of these women consider me less masculine, or I consider them less feminine. We can always choose to make anything a conflict, seeing differences as negative things, or we can simply celebrate each others special qualities. Yin/Yang opposition is often not the obvious.
You're young; don't let Madison Avenue rule your life - because they don't care about you.
plentyofreckles,
You asked where are all the guys who don't mind being shorter than their partner. The short answer is we are all around you. the long answer is that while many, many, many short men have absolutely no problem looking up to their woman. Oftentimes though, they stop trying because of the overwhelmingly negative response they've received over the years by your less-enlightened 'colleagues'. Sadly, both you, and these short men who are checking you out every single day, suffer needlessly every Friday night.
If I might suggest a possible solution to the problem: Take charge of the situation, and ask these men out. With the exception of the few guy who in this day and age still aren't comfortable with that approach, you'll likely find your dance card quickly filled beyond capacity. If for some strange reason that doesn't work, call the coroner because those men are obviously dead, and move down here to NYC; we love adorable Canadians.
One last thought: There are guys that don't have a problem with your height, and there are men who absolutely love your physical person, just because you're you. Which would you prefer?
Stay off the Bell Curve - it's a slippery slope. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 12:52:10 PM |
I'm sure you meant to say I will ONLY have VANILLA ice cream.....
You are correct. I fixed my grammar mistake. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 2:02:40 PM | First of all, I find it incredible that this discussion has been going on for THREE YEARS!!! I'm sure everyone has their opinion on this matter, and, very soon, will have voiced it on this thread!
Secondly, in response to Norseviking869, yes, there is a procedure to increase your height, it's expensive, it's painful, and it's very popular in Japan. I view it as I would almost any cosmetic surgery, it's more about one's perception of how the world views them then it is about how they are actually perceived. Six billion people on earth, statistically speaking, there will be people of EVERY type, and a corresponding number of people who like that particular type.
So, since this thread is about everyone in the free world posting their opinion, here's mine. I like attractive women. That can fall into many categories, short, tall, heavy, thin, blonde, brunette, or redhead. Often, the difference on whether or not they are attractive has more to do with how they feel about themselves then it does what they have on the outside. I would never be so closed minded as to have a "type", as a matter of fact, I've found that my physical need for attraction changes based on my emotional feelings for a person.
As far as how I feel about women who are not attracted to me, their loss! I'm confident, strong, caring, and funny. If they dont want to be around me, it's their loss. I also dont expect everyone to like me, and certainly wouldnt want to be around someone who didnt. The bottom line is, if they dont like me, they dont like me. I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince someone otherwise. The best thing about there being 6 Billion people in the world is, there's PLENTY OF FISH!! | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 3:05:50 PM |
If it hasn't already been stated...where are all of these guys who don't mind being shorter in stature than their partner beside them?
He's right here! | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 3:22:53 PM | "Ok we know where these short guys threads stop . With short men stamping their tiny little feet throwing themselves on the ground and demanding that women be attracted to them."
you don't like these threads and yet you keep returning to these threads like a dog returning to its vomit.
We're not demanding anything. and where do you see anyone throwing themselves on the ground? its fine if you don't find us attractive but please grow up and smarten up you're not that clever. and most women know that the size of one's feet or hands has zero corolation with the size of anything else. Of course I'm not surprised you don't know that.
"And would a short men be comfortable dating a woman who over powers him??"
This is assuming height equals power it doesn't it's just an illusion of power. Taller doesn't always mean stronger or more dominate I've seen plenty of couples where the woman is taller then the man but the man still has power in the relationship. He's still the man If society broke out in anarchy and it was lord of the flies it's not the tallest or the strongest who would dominate it would be who has the greatest numbers, who's the most charismatic and who has the most resources. Height is really no match for intelligence and charisma not even close.
Most men also don't mind being shorter then their partner if a man can get a woman without acting all tough and macho like he has something prove why wouldnt he take advantage of that? | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 3:39:46 PM | | Personallly short guys are unattractive because I don't like guys to be any shorter than I am. I'm only 5'7 1/2 I don't think that finding someone taller than me is too much to ask. You may have the greatest personality and a great body but sooner or later the height will get in the way the majority of the time | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 3:42:54 PM | Personally speaking, if you're with the right person it doesn't matter a hill of beans how g-dang tall they are. You're supposed to fall in love with the INSIDE and if you're so shallow that height is an issue, you're destined to be a very unhappy person for the rest of your life.
Of course, this is IMHO, but I really don't give a crap how much taller (or not) someone is as far as I'm concerned. Guess I've just evolved. Too bad more of us aren't like that. Height doesn't mean someone is a big person. It's what's inside.
Moon, happily dating someone that is so tall it can't be measured. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 4:12:47 PM | Moon Maedyn,
you are absolutely right, It truly does matter what's on the inside and height should never be an issue. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 9:22:22 PM |
Round and round and round it goes where it will stop no one knows.
Ok we know where these short guys threads stop . With short men stamping their tiny little feet throwing themselves on the ground and demanding that women be attracted to them.
I don't want all people or all women to like me. I'd just like the respect and time of day that I give to women in terms of receiving a message back saying "sorry, but I'm not interested in you [because you don't fit my idea of a man]." I've found more luck just making random chat with people on this site than I have with setting up a meet with someone--even if it's benign, and I clearly state that I'm just looking for friends.
It could be a lack of information on my profile, etc, but I'm not going to go into that. It's just curious why things like this are a point of concern to people..
Being fair though and being a devil's advocate, how many men have responded in similar ways, to women because they were too tall or too short for their tastes?
Some food for thought. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 9:22:58 PM | | im 5'5 so i dunno i'd like to date a guy thats taller then me last time i dated i short guy it just didnt feel right. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 9:59:33 PM | At the risk of repeating myself (and I AM)
I prefer SHORT GUYS...but everyone is entitled to their opinion and what they desire to be with in life.
Being a shorty myself ....(5'4" and shrinking annually..lol), I just feel more comfortable with someone more "shoulder to shoulder" with me.
But again, those of you that have stated it is the "whole package" are absolutely correct, so I wouldn't balk at someone that was taller than I would feel comfortable with if he had ALL THE OTHER QUALITIES that I desired, enjoyed and savored; therefore, the WHOLE PACKAGE or the WHOLE SHEBANG should be what we are all seeking.
~~Beth~~ | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 10:32:09 PM | annikat and Zain:
Guys, guys... please keep the personal attacks to a minimum. It's really counterproductive.
Maybe the point why people are looking or single is because they're looking for the whole thing. Or maybe I -- like me as well as Zain -- we aren't looking for extremely active in looking for dating opportunities or a girlfriend. I was going out with a girl for 3.5, almost 4 years, and was ready to commit. But it didn't work out, for personal reasons, and since then I've been relishing being single and having so many options at my fingertips, with no worry about restricting myself due to being tied down to relationship obligations.
One thing to ask is, is having a partner at your age really a requirement, or again something that's socially 'required'? Please keep that in mind as well.
Take care. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/21/2008 10:40:46 PM | nicegurlmaybe and "Green Eyes in Florida":
I agree with the logic on both accounts. It's interesting to see such polar opposites one thread after another.
Hopefully the thread will continue on with as little personal attacking as possible (I know ideal and most likely impossible -- blah) and we can seek some sort of insight as to what height is such a determining factor in relationships.
Cheers,
-Garrett | |
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