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jurupa
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Joined: 2/12/2008
Msg: 801 | |
| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/22/2008 3:54:23 PM |
i dont get it ladies if ur little why have such a tall man? From my side of this I don't get it either. It sometimes surprised me how many women 5'4" and under will try and get my attention or flirt or check me out. Don't they realize that I am a good foot or more taller than them? The only reason I can think of is that they are insecure in their own height.
what about the tall women ??? are we stuck with the leftovers that the cute petite ladies dont want ???? are we unactractive......??? i think not. i stand tall and proud but i also stand alone.... I find tall girls attractive and I primary focus on them and basically ignore any female under the height of 5'7". Least to say it seems I have a better chance of getting a 5'5" shorty than a 5'10" beauty. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/22/2008 7:08:48 PM | | And your post always show how bitter and resentful you are chucky. Just because a woman thinks differently then you do does not mean she does not know her own mind. She just does not have the same mind set as you do. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/22/2008 9:01:41 PM | | Well this is all beginning to sound like rocket science and I thought systems programming was more closely related to that. I wouldn’t have thought height could play such a major role in selecting a partner. I mean forget if the person is actually a decent person with a vision and plan for the future. Lets go with the idiot loser who treats me badly but hey least he is 6ft and above. It will make it better. I personally think weight is a bigger issue and a health issue. If you ladies want tall men then I suggest you go to Montenegro in the Balkans there average height I believe is 6'2 they are even bigger than Dutch men in general. In saying that I use to date a woman who was 6'2 I am 5'11 and we go along pretty well. She use to joke about my height a little and I use to joke about her I.Q so it kind of evened out lol. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/22/2008 9:07:53 PM | tealkk226
If you need a man to talk you down come and play indoor soccer with me. I see men taking each other out all the time. It’s a good mix you get Serb/Greeks/Italians/English/Scots and even Croatians. So as you can see you have very placid people playing lol. In saying all that when I play I find the 5'5 guys can be the dirtiest players and will try to take you down all the time. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/23/2008 11:51:29 AM | they are even bigger than Dutch men in general
This explains EVERYTHING! I'm Dutch, so this is why I'm attracted to taller men? It's what I grew up with!
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/23/2008 8:35:32 PM | | My grandfather was Dutch and my grandmother from south america. I guess that is why I like tall and small women ! xxx | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/23/2008 8:41:06 PM | | I like short men. I am short so they are easier to dance with, cuddle, and kiss. It is hard for someone my height to dance with someone who is over 6 foot. I don't mind tall guys either, but a short guy that is in good shape is real sexy. I don't prefer skinny men but I don't want one that is severely obese. I prefer a few extra pounds on my men also. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 2:16:46 AM | | So where is all this hatred for short guys? I'm 5'7" and I've never had a problem meeting women taller than me. I guess it all comes down to the issue of confidence. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 8:58:07 AM |
So where is all this hatred for short guys? I'm 5'7" and I've never had a problem meeting women taller than me. I guess it all comes down to the issue of confidence.
An exception does not negate the rule.
The existence of Oprah doesn't mean that there is no racial discrimination, and a "short guy" (is 5'7" even short?) who has no problem "meeting" (what does that mean?) women who are taller than him doesn't mean that the "hate" isn't there.
From reading this thread and others like it....there seems to be plenty of irrational hate directed at short guys. | |
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hat18
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Joined: 1/2/2008
Msg: 813 | |
| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 9:55:50 AM | I haven't faced this particualar obstacle, but I can sympathize. Its human nature to see what we want to see. If a man came to this thread feeling a little insecure about his height, even the kinder comments about "needing" a taller man would grab his attention and feed into those insecurities. The one about shorter men being "disgusting in a romantic sense" might just ruin his day. I know its wise to not let comments from strangers affect us, but when pretty much every boy is told to grow up to be big and strong, feeling like he's failed to do so might leave a guy a bit sensitive.
I guess none of that changes anything. Short men are at a disadvantage romantically. No amount of complaining, however much the complaints are disguised as almost academic inquiries, will change that. Asking women to explain their preference/requirement/checklist item isn't really fair either. I don't think the desire for height in a date develops in the rational part of a woman's brain, any more than men's typical desire for a certain hip to waist ratio does. It is what it is.
I'm wondering if these threads make any of the shorter men feel better, or if they just rub salt in the wound.? I would think that rather than arguing about the issue, or any relative disadvantage, accepting it and focusing on other aspects of your appearance and personality would be more likely to lead to dating success, or contentment in any case. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 9:56:56 AM |
So where is all this hatred for short guys? I'm 5'7" and I've never had a problem meeting women taller than me. I guess it all comes down to the issue of confidence.
I do not get your point. To be be quite blunt, I concider myself very confident. The only time that I tend to lack any confidence at all is when I am around very beautiful women ( and I do not lose all that much mind you...just had bad past experiences)
I am bold and confident, but I still get turned down for being short. I refuse to lie about my height to get dates ( as I would automantically lose the second date after they see the real me).
The issue for me and most men here, isn't a lack of confidence. It is a lack of understanding and open women willing to give someone the time of day as they aren't 6'0"+ | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 10:06:12 AM |
I haven't faced this particualar obstacle, but I can sympathize. Its human nature to see what we want to see. If a man came to this thread feeling a little insecure about his height, even the kinder comments about "needing" a taller man would grab his attention and feed into those insecurities. The one about shorter men being "disgusting in a romantic sense" might just ruin his day. I know its wise to not let comments from strangers affect us, but when pretty much every boy is told to grow up to be big and strong, feeling like he's failed to do so might leave a guy a bit sensitive.
I guess none of that changes anything. Short men are at a disadvantage romantically. No amount of complaining, however much the complaints are disguised as almost academic inquiries, will change that. Asking women to explain their preference/requirement/checklist item isn't really fair either. I don't think the desire for height in a date develops in the rational part of a woman's brain, any more than men's typical desire for a certain hip to waist ratio does. It is what it is.
I'm wondering if these threads make any of the shorter men feel better, or if they just rub salt in the wound.? I would think that rather than arguing about the issue, or any relative disadvantage, accepting it and focusing on other aspects of your appearance and personality would be more likely to lead to dating success, or contentment in any case.
I agre totally. It is threads like this, the media and dating in general ( that fills these threads) that makes for fueling the insecurities of short men and tall women. tall women are insecure ( I know it pisses you off when I say it, but you are so deal with it) You get cut down all the time by "average" people. You want to feel pretty and taken care of. You also do not want to look like freaks. So you see an average or even short man, you dismiss them as " beneteh you" so you can feel bvetter about yourselves. Then you try to find the tallest men you can find, to feel "normal, pretty, and wanted.
What is even more dismaying though, are short and average women that only want 'TAll" men. Not average or short ( even though they are "TALLER" ) but Tall men. I know that this isn't most short and average women, but I have been turned down by a 4'11" lady for not being 6'. Go figure. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 2:42:38 PM | In high school I wasn't too popular with the ladies (go figure!  ). I thought it was because I wasn't rich, I didn't play sports, I didn't do all the partying high school kids do. I was a so-called 'Nice Guy'. I even read those books about how to become the 'Jerk' women love. Nope, nothing in those books about how male height is a deal maker or breaker with women. My older brother was popular in high school. At one point he was going out with 2 girls who were best friends. He's 6'1".
It wasn't until I moved to a big city in 2000 that I even thought my height was a deal breaker for women. I was trying to meet women online. One asked me how tall I was. I thought, "Hmmm..., OK, that seems like a harmless enough question", so I told her. The next thing you know, she was calling me a 'short loser'. I never really considered myself a 'loser'. I know tall guys who are losers in other respects, but they don't seem to have a lot of problems attracting women. She wasn't the only one I talked to online who had problems with my height. There was another who dissed me because of it. Nowadays, in many ways I'm grateful that they showed their true colors up front. Actually, they did me several favors. They let me know that height is indeed a factor in attracting or turning off a woman. They also let me know that they were total b****es who I wouldn't have wanted to be with anyhow. I didn't appreciate their rudeness, but I learned a lot from it. For years I was under the impression that I wasn't a 'cool enough' or 'rich enough' guy. Chatting with those big-city girls was definitely a wake-up call.
Later in 2000 I began working for a multinational corporation and gave support to Latin American (mostly Brazilian) customers. I was making enough money where I could afford to travel, so I went to Latin America a few times and got much better treatment from women in those countries. If I'm considered a 'loser' for going to another country to find love and companionship, then so be it! I wasn't getting any action at home and I'm not into men, so why not? Not everybody in Latin America is under 5'5". 2 Latinas I hooked up with were about my height if not a few centimeters taller.
It's sad when I see so many American men who share my height (5'7") who don't try something different, or just try women of different nationalities altogether! They'll gripe and complain and try to use reason to get local women attracted to them. And when that doesn't work, they'll continue to do the same things. | |
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jurupa
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Joined: 2/12/2008
Msg: 817 | |
| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 4:01:35 PM |
I agre totally. It is threads like this, the media and dating in general ( that fills these threads) that makes for fueling the insecurities of short men and tall women. tall women are insecure ( I know it pisses you off when I say it, but you are so deal with it) You get cut down all the time by "average" people. You want to feel pretty and taken care of. You also do not want to look like freaks. So you see an average or even short man, you dismiss them as " beneteh you" so you can feel bvetter about yourselves. Then you try to find the tallest men you can find, to feel "normal, pretty, and wanted. I agree the media has not help in this matter at all and most probably made it worse even. But to say that all tall women are insecure is stupid and not true by a long shot. I know two tall women that are secure and confident in their height. People like cutting down us taller people because they feel insecure about their height when one of us tall people are around them.
What is even more dismaying though, are short and average women that only want 'TAll" men. Not average or short ( even though they are "TALLER" ) but Tall men. I know that this isn't most short and average women, but I have been turned down by a 4'11" lady for not being 6'. Go figure. Try being tall and getting almost non stop attention from the same short women. It gets annoying real quick when your not physically attracted to short women. But look at it this way down the road these women are going to be alone and wondering why they can't get a 6' guy. Because they don't realize there are only so many guys 6' and up and a lot of times guys 6' and up in some was get to be more choosy on what women they want.
It's sad when I see so many American men who share my height (5'7") who don't try something different, or just try women of different nationalities altogether! They'll gripe and complain and try to use reason to get local women attracted to them. And when that doesn't work, they'll continue to do the same things. In my travels I have notice that American women tend to have the most superficial height requirements out of all of the countries I have been to. Tho I do have to say that women in the countries I been to where drawn to my height, they where most certainly where not knocking out the 5'6" guy either. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 6:03:40 PM |
But to say that all tall women are insecure is stupid and not true by a long shot. I know two tall women that are secure and confident in their height. People like cutting down us taller people because they feel insecure about their height when one of us tall people are around them.
In no way was it meant as an insult but an altruism. Furthermore I did not say it out of spite or the fact that I am a short guy. I said it because it is true for the most part. I did not say all either or even most. For that I am sorry, all I said was that "tall women, not "ALL TALL" were insecure. Many are, and it is not an insult to say that. I feel bad that they are insecure. I used to feel insecure about being short, but I grew out of that. | |
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jurupa
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Joined: 2/12/2008
Msg: 819 | |
| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 6:55:55 PM |
In no way was it meant as an insult but an altruism. Furthermore I did not say it out of spite or the fact that I am a short guy. I said it because it is true for the most part. I did not say all either or even most. For that I am sorry, all I said was that "tall women, not "ALL TALL" were insecure. Many are, and it is not an insult to say that. I feel bad that they are insecure. I used to feel insecure about being short, but I grew out of that. From my own experience anyone can be insecure about their height at any height. There are tall women that are insecure about their height as well as short people, and these two groups tend to have the most people insecure about their height. I am not going to lie here as I was at one point insecure about my height, but like you I grew out of it. But anyway I took the way you post it as "all tall women", as I thought the "all" was implied. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 8:02:08 PM | I have no problem with women generally liking guys taller than they are. It's one of those things that is just the way it is. And people can't help what they are attracted to.
Personally, if I was 6' tall, I would be insufferable. Being shorter keeps me somewhat humble. ;) | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 8:05:11 PM | I can see how this thread has taken on a life of its' own since the original post. But my 2 cents...I think it is just personal preference. Unfortunately, most women want a man who is taller than them. As someone who's on the short side myself at 5'8", its frustrating because Ill see this really attractive and intelligent woman I want to talk to, but then I see she's 5'11" or something and right there I know that its probably not even going to be worth my time to write to her. Ill get discounted for being shorter than her right away.
Thankfully, there is the occasional exception to the rule. Because not only am I shorter than many guys, I have a small frame and build too. Its actually ironic because I think a 6'2" guy who's 75lbs overweight has an easier time attracting a woman than a smaller, shorter guy. Even though the smaller guy is probably in better shape, that height and girth is just more socially accepted by the public at large.
Personally, I take a person as the entire package. I dont care if a woman is 6 inches taller than me, or 100lbs heavier than me for that matter. As long as she has a good heart, and accepts me for who I am, thats all I need. And I dont say that to sound desperate...I really just dont put that much stock into things like height and weight. Lets face it, none of us are supermodels. If we were, we wouldnt be single and posting on here on a regular basis! lol | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 8:06:54 PM |
Personally, if I was 6' tall, I would be insufferable. Being shorter keeps me somewhat humble. ;)
Yes, no one is perfect. That should keep us all humble. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 9:26:45 PM | What IS considered short?
I am 5'4", and I always thought that I was of average height. Nowadays, I believe I am shorter than average.
SO, for men, what is the height that is the cutoff?
I say, it depends on the preferences of woman, be it bc of HER height, or whatever SHE likes.
I was married to two taller (over 5'10") men, and I will say that my boyfriend is 5'8" and I really prefer his height. No more standing on tiptoes to kiss, or getting a sore neck. He just fits me better . Period!
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 3/25/2008 9:29:25 PM | My take on short guys? I don't.
Jonathan Doeman, if you're still here & still on your "heightism" crusade, I STILL don't and I STILL don't have to justify or explain it. | |
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