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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/25/2008 10:09:19 PM |
Jonathan...missed not seeing you on this subject.
I'm still reading.
But it has been a while since someone has said something outrageous enough to merit a spoon full of rebuke.
Most of it is just a million woman declaring that they don't like short guys. That's said, but not really worth a comment until the stereotypes and bigotry starts being trumpeted about.
In some women's desire to appear less shallow, they will smear short men to make it look like THEY (short men) have the problem, and not the woman who are ruling people out based on an insignificant physical characteristic.  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/25/2008 10:38:00 PM | **********CHUCKYB51**********
PLEASE READ THIS:
First off, let me say that you're way too intelligent to be posting on this piece of shit website! I've read nearly every one of your posts pertaining to anything regarding height and it's all spot on. Such a shame that most of what you said will merely 'fall upon deaf ears' so to speak. You remind me so much of me and that is most definitely a good thing. I have pretty much every single trait that women find desirable except money and height--well, I'm sure as hell not poor, but I don't have *enough* money to use it as a tool to make up for my lack of height.
Anyways, I'm dying to know what the hell kind of shoes you wear to gain 4 ENTIRE INCHES of height over barefeet!?!? I've been researching shoes for the past 2.5 years and have spent over $500 trying to find the perfect height increasing pair.
-I purchased a $60 pair of elevator shoes and they were complete shit.
-I purchased a $200 pair of elevator shoes and they were complete shit.
-I purchased a $100 pair of Dr. Marten shoes and they gave me a 2" increase in height and it was alright for a while but still too short to get sexual attention from women. Sure, I can get in the "friend zone" no problem, but that's about it. *sigh*
-I purchased a $115 pair of Dr. Marten boots and I got 2.5" from them with stuffing a bunch of shit inside--wasn't enough for me.
-I purchased a $115 pair of Dr. Marten boots and I am getting about 3.1" inches from them. I can't get any higher or else my heel will come out of the back of the boot. I have so much crap stuffed inside, it's not even funny.
I'm 5'4" just like you so with my current shoes I'm about 5'7" which is a HUGE difference. Any girl considers a 5'4" man short and even guys will poke fun at you. At 5'7", I feel I no longer will be the butt of many jokes, and I could see myself attracting more women, but an extra inch would truly put me at an average height.
I would do ANYTHING to get to 5'8"!
Most people tend to agree with this article it seems:
http://www.celebheights.com/a/23.html
Now, the fact that I'm getting 3.1" is pretty ****ing rare--really. How in the world are you getting a 4" gain? Are you SURE it's 4"?
How do you measure yourself?
Best way is to mark the wall at say: 5'4", 5'5", 5'6", 5'7", and 5'8". (in a bathroom preferably or anywhere with a mirror)
Use a hardcover book--you can figure out the rest. Measure a few times and subtract the difference from the next inch up.
Do it two times without your shoes and two times with.
It is BLOODY accurate--best way to measure; period.
Most people completely fail at measuring so they don't even know how tall they are, lol.
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So yes, back to my main question and purpose of this email. What are these 4" shoes you claim to have? Well, I should say boots, because there is no way in hell you could have a 4" pair of shoes.
Thank you so damn much in advance!!!
I'm SooOooo looking forward to your response. 3" is a beautiful difference, but 4" is my ultimate goal and I believe that it can be achieved. Well, it must be possible if you have 4" : ) | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 7:59:33 AM | | It sucks to not be among the most desirable in the land , but it is the way it is. Those of us who are on the outskirts just have to accept it and make due with what we have been given. Us whining ,b1tch1ng, moaning and complaining does not make us anymore attractive to those who are already not attracted to us. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 8:11:46 AM |
It sucks to not be among the most desirable in the land , but it is the way it is. Those of us who are on the outskirts just have to accept it and make due with what we have been given. In Portuguese there's a proverb: "Quem não tem cão caça com gato" ("Who has no dog hunts with a cat"). In other words, you have to make do with what you have.
Us whining ,b1tch1ng, moaning and complaining does not make us anymore attractive to those who are already not attracted to us. Nope, it sure won't. In 10 years the same people will be on here complaining about the same things if they don't change their approach. My approach is to go for foreign women, especially Latin women. That's my preference. There are a lot of Asian and Eastern European women looking for love too. Sure, some only want to be wined and dined and some only want a green card, so like anything else, go in with your eyes open, not just your heart. Actually, that's great advice for most American men planning on marrying domestically. In 10 years the wife will have divorced him and taken the kids, the car, and the house. Not all women are like this, but too many of them are. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 9:34:31 AM | In other words, you have to make do with what you have.
I already said this in my post so i don't understand why you are quoting me and saying this.
Those of us who are on the outskirts just have to accept it and make due with what we have been given.
See we said the same thing. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 9:56:20 AM | I think who one dates is a personal choice, and personal choices are generally best left unexplained. Str8ahd's handling of this issue, though apparently abrupt, is probably kinder than other women's comments about bodyguards and heels.
I noticed something though. I suspect that short men and women of all heights share some common ground. In a lot of situations they struggle to be taken seriously. They tend not to get the respect they're due unless they speak up and demand it, and in doing so they run the risk of being labeled a b!tch if female or an ambitious Frenchman if male. Or some epithet that's meant to keep them in line. That's no basis for a relationship, but it seemed worth noting. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 10:13:17 AM |
I suspect that short men and women of all heights share some common ground. In a lot of situations they struggle to be taken seriously.
This is one of the great ironies of the entire height issue - and it never fails to give me a chuckle.
Stay off the center of the Bell Curve; it's a scary place. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 10:51:03 AM | first, I am not a lady lol.. but I have an opinion
I like taller guys than me.. because I'm very dominant and I feel a short guy would get the short end of the stick (no pun intended ), you know subconciousness works and all that.. I think a taller guy would inflict a greater sense of respect in me.
Don't take it out of context, it is hard to explain lol.. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 11:09:49 AM | It is interesting that psychologists have found that your physical & sexual preferences are actually starting to devlop at age 3 and are pretty much set by age of 7 .
Still there are all types of attractiveness and , "Beauty is truly in the eyes of the beholder.
You can see this in every day life when you look at a couple and say,"What could he possibly see in her or the reverse.
I know of a woman who was of average height and beautiful by todays standards. She had a real turn on wanting to be with a, "Little person".
There is someone for each of us.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 1:18:00 PM | "My approach is to go for foreign women, especially Latin women. That's my preference. There are a lot of Asian and Eastern European women looking for love too. "
I have this idea for a "Short Vacation Club" where guys shorter than average in America can vacation in third world countries and feel like giants.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man rules!  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 1:23:45 PM |
I have this idea for a "Short Vacation Club" where guys shorter than average in America can vacation in third world countries and feel like giants. When I went to Mexico years ago, I was much taller than most people there, so in a way tallness is relative. On average Latin Americans are shorter than North Americans, but that's not always the case. My last 2 Latin girlfriends were both about 5'8". From what I've seen girls in the Philippines are very short. Many of them are about 4'11". | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 1:57:28 PM |
"My approach is to go for foreign women, especially Latin women. That's my preference. There are a lot of Asian and Eastern European women looking for love too. "
I love this idea! I do have a thing for Asian woman LOL | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 2:07:08 PM |
Then why are all you people who spout this nonsense still single? Shouldn't you of snapped up the first kind and decent person you fell across years ago? If looks mean nothing then there are plenty of wonderful people i am sure you have run into in your life who you were physically unattracted to , but who were real sweethearts. Shouldn't you of jumped at the chance to be with them even though the thought of any type of intimacy with them left you cold?
I have dated some real sweethearts. I don't date people based on height or weight I base my choices from the personality of the person, but sometimes things just don't workout in end which has happened to all of us. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 2:24:38 PM | If you like Asian women, try this link: dir [dot] yahoo [dot] com [slash] Business_and_Economy [slash] Shopping_and_Services [slash] Personals_and_Dating [slash] Asian_Women_Seeking_Foreign_Men
I had an online friend from another part of Texas who met his Indonesian wife through a service called Cherry Blossoms. That's the one he recommended. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 2:33:33 PM | | Well personally speaking, I don't usually date any man that is under 6 foot tall and that is just my personal pereference. It's like some men won't date women who are overweight, or very tall , short, whatever the case may be, we all have certain preferences. I like to be able to look up when on a date with a man because I do wear high heels and being 5'5, that takes me up to about 5'9, so it is nice to be able to look up rather than down...and I've never really known any man comfortable dating a woman that is much taller than him...I know it has happened, but it is not the norm. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 2:43:13 PM | You do know that those women from those desperately poor countries only want you because they want to escape to a rich country don't you? Hey if you choose to play the fool then i guess that's up to you. These women don't and never will love you. They are only grateful to be out of their countries. You are only their means of escape.Once they get to this part of the world and get their own citizenship they will dump your behind for someone they actually want.
I can hear the responses now. "oh but i know of this one couple who have been married for so long" , " she treats him like a real prince" etc.... Sure there are exceptions to every rule , but they are just exceptions . It is not what commonly happens in these mail order brides scenarios. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 2:46:49 PM |
Well personally speaking, I don't usually date any man that is under 6 foot tall and that is just my personal pereference. It's like some men won't date women who are overweight, or very tall , short, whatever the case may be, we all have certain preferences. I like to be able to look up when on a date with a man because I do wear high heels and being 5'5, that takes me up to about 5'9, so it is nice to be able to look up rather than down...and I've never really known any man comfortable dating a woman that is much taller than him...I know it has happened, but it is not the norm. An article on 'physical attractiveness' on Wikipedia said that a woman is attracted to guys who are 1.1 times her height. You're 5'5", which is about the average height for North American women, so you'd be attracted to a guy who's at least 5'11.5", which is right about 6'0".
Me personally, my best dates were with women who were about my height or taller. And my worst dates were with women who were much shorter than myself. But that really depends on the person, not the height. Subconsciously, I think most guys (myself included) like to be with a woman who's shorter than himself and makes less money. Guys like to be the protectors and gals like to be the protected for the most part. Even in the 21st century we still have caveman instincts. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 2:59:40 PM | You do know that those women from those desperately poor countries only want you because they want to escape to a rich country don't you? Hey if you choose to play the fool then i guess that's up to you. These women don't and never will love you. They are only grateful to be out of their countries. You are only their means of escape.Once they get to this part of the world and get their own citizenship they will dump your behind for someone they actually want. Yep, that's the kind of responses that 'mail-order bride' posts generate. I'm not saying that foreign women don't have ulterior motives (besides love), but are you saying that North American women do not have ulterior motives? The divorce rate in this country is over 50% and most of the time it's the woman who initiates divorce proceedings because she's the one who will benefit from it, getting the kids, the car, and the house. I've seen that happen to too many good men. Now who's marrying who to benefit financially?
About a foreign woman wanting to come here and get a green card, well, in my case I'd like to buy a home in Latin America and move there. In 2002 I almost moved to Brazil because at the time I was working remotely from home, but the job I had wasn't one I could depend on doing indefinitely, nor was it one I particularly wanted to do indefinitely. I went to Panama in 2003 and was pleasantly surprised by everything in that country. Due to our involvement in that country for the last century, it's a very Americanized country where the dollar is the common currency.
The line of reason used in the quotes is along the lines of what short guys and obese women use to try to get someone interested in them. Short guy: "A tall guy has his pick of women and will be a jerk." Obese woman: "The beautiful thin girl has her pick of guys and will be a b****." Not always. There are plenty of good people who are either a tall guy or a beautiful woman (my dad's brother and his wife are great examples of that). By the same token, there are good foreign women. You make it sound like ALL of them are only interested in a green card.
I can hear the responses now. "oh but i know of this one couple who have been married for so long" , " she treats him like a real prince" etc.... Sure there are exceptions to every rule , but they are just exceptions . It is not what commonly happens in these mail order brides scenarios. International dating is just like domestic dating (with the exception of the considerable distance). You take your time and when it's time to make a commitment, you make sure it's the right person. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 3:14:53 PM | | I have dated short and tall, big and skinny....I can tell you about the short thing in my case. I am a bigger girl. Bigger and taller men tend to make me feel smaller, thus I feel like I am more attractive in their eyes because they see me as a much smaller woman than themselves....maybe totally off base, since there have been short and small men who have been attracted to me. But that bit of insecurity over being a larger girl is always in the back of my mind. And I think it's an inherent subconscious need for a "protector" passed down through our genes. But there are alot of men out there who are short and extremely hot ! | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 4:42:15 PM | | well I have dated men from 5'6" to 6'6"... its not the height that makes the man its the man himself. I have had a few wonderful short boyfriends. I am only 5'5" so anything taller than that is okay with me lol... | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/26/2008 11:48:43 PM |
You do know that those women from those desperately poor countries only want you because they want to escape to a rich country don't you? Hey if you choose to play the fool then i guess that's up to you. These women don't and never will love you. They are only grateful to be out of their countries.
So what if she doesn't love you? By that logic, a woman with a height requirement is only dating a man because he is tall.
This is how the logic works.
-A woman refuses to date men shorter than 5'10". -It logically follows from this statement that she could never love a man who was 5'9" or shorter. -It logically follows from this statement that if her man would somehow shrink to under the 5'10" threshold, then she would not love him. -Ergo, she is only with him because of his height. Without it, they would not be together. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/27/2008 12:33:09 AM | | I am 5'5". I prefer a guy at least 5'7", however egocentric, or shallow, or selfish that makes me. Sue me, the guy should be bigger than me. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 3/27/2008 3:23:50 PM |
This is how the logic works.
-A woman refuses to date men shorter than 5'10". -It logically follows from this statement that she could never love a man who was 5'9" or shorter. -It logically follows from this statement that if her man would somehow shrink to under the 5'10" threshold, then she would not love him. -Ergo, she is only with him because of his height. Without it, they would not be together.
This is so true | |
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