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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 3:14:07 PM | I would date a shorter man but not a spandex wearing man..just my preference!
My best friends are a very happily married couple she is 6 feet in bare feet he is 5'6 in cowboy boots. On their first date he got up on her coffee table to dance with her and they have been dancing ever since!
You can't do anything about height so complain about it or fix the things that you can ...like that winning personality!  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 3:21:00 PM |
While men here seem to think that it is unfair that women prefer taller men... only 23 percent of men would consider dating a woman taller than they are! this is me looking shocked!
Taller men and slimmer women have better chances of finding a mate. That is just the way it is. There is a pattern in how people choose each other,overweight woman get passed over.Men..on the other hand do not seem to be penalised for being overweight?
Based on what I have seen, I would disagree with this. I think the percentage of men that would date a taller woman is higher than 23%. I am 5' 10" and plenty of men that are shorter than me have been interested in me. I know a few fat men that have been rejected by many women because of their weight. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 3:36:05 PM |
It is "Heightism" !
Did you know for each inch in height, a man earned about $789 more in pay. So a 6-foot man would earn $5,525 more each year than someone who is 5'5. So it must not only be women who judge in inches.
You'll get no argument here - the question is, are the tall men really better managers, or are taller men being promoted over more deserving shorter men due to superficial perceptions? If the latter, we all lose out, because those corporations aren't being run by the best talent.
Our culture is overrun with appearance-based prejudice that is keeping talented people down. How many unattractive 'journalists' do you see on tv? I put journalists in scare quotes because in my opinion they aren't journalists.
For those old enough to remember - Walter Cronkite was for many years the face of US tv journalism. He preceded tv with a distinguished print and radio career, and he was no pretty boy. He'd never have a chance today. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 4:01:50 PM | "only 23 percent of men would consider dating a woman taller than they are!"
that's bull
That's ONE study hardly a credible source. and if you interview men on POF I'm pretty sure the number would be higher then 23%
"Men..on the other hand do not seem to be penalised for being overweight?"
Most women don't want short men they don't want fat men either. However I'm willing to bet a fat tall man has a better shot then a short fit man. maybe it's this "protection" crap who knows.
He'd have to chase the attacker down first before he can sit on him. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 5:08:57 PM |
indigo_rose wrote: While men here seem to think that it is unfair that women prefer taller men... only 23 percent of men would consider dating a woman taller than they are!
I don't know where you got 23%, but that's a higher percentage than the one of women who go for guys under 5'10", at least in most of North America. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 5:14:03 PM |
Taller men and slimmer women have better chances of finding a mate. That is just the way it is
Nothing is ever "just the way it is". That is the motto of fools. Things are a way for a reason, and things can change. Now, they might not change in a single lifetime, but things that are "wrong" can/should be questioned and challenged.
While men here seem to think that it is unfair that women prefer taller men... only 23 percent of men would consider dating a woman taller than they are!
This is a lie. I've spoken to my friends about this, and NONE of us would reject a woman for a date because she is "too tall" (whatever that means).
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 5:21:32 PM | A man's height truly doens't bother me. However I am 5 11 and have been known to don heels occasionally. Usually it's the man telling me he wants a shorter woman. lol. Shortest man I dated..think he was 5 2..maybe 5 3.. lol and he liked the heels..  I can tell you that a tall man is more attractive simply because when he holds me I feel completely protected. A few of the shorter men I dated made me feel this way too, but all of the tall men accomplish this one little feat.  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 5:42:39 PM | Well I've dated guys from 5'2" to 6' and I'm 5'4", all the guys liked me in heels, in fact the shortest guy loved women in heels the most and prefered women taller than him. Height shouldn't be an issue, it's the person that counts, whatever size they are, I've found that shorter guys make me feel graceful and a bit amazonian and tall guys make me feel petite, both good feelings, and guys my height, well they are just easier to kiss, lol, no stretching up or stooping down. Enjoy what they are and what they've got to offer and don't worry over whether your eye to eye with them, it's easily acheived laying down  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 6:40:11 PM |
This is a lie. I've spoken to my friends about this, and NONE of us would reject a woman for a date because she is "too tall" (whatever that means).
I would
Because Iam a shallow SOB | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 7:20:18 PM |
only 23 percent of men would consider dating a woman taller than they are! I was wondering what the source is of this "information". So I googled what you italicized; it was a Psychology Today study performed by researchers investigating people who posted Yahoo personal ads. It sounds like your typical psychobabble nonsense.
It's an online article that doesn't even state the source of the actual study.
I just went through a sample of 50 men's profiles on Yahoo Personals. Only 15 (30%) had any height requirement at all, of those, only 9 (18% of the 50) wanted someone their height or shorter. Sounds like the article's numbers are backwards. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 7:35:58 PM | | Being almost 5'10" most would assume I only date men taller than me. NOT SO. Most of the men I have dated have been either my height or shorter. The one draw-back to dating a "short" man that I have found is many posses the "Napoleon Syndrome"(the need to try to make others feel inferior to themselves). Short or tall I like rugged men. One that when he touches you, you feel the strength in the tenderness. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/28/2008 9:39:54 PM |
My best friends are a very happily married couple she is 6 feet in bare feet he is 5'6 in cowboy boots. On their first date he got up on her coffee table to dance with her and they have been dancing ever since!
It's too bad there aren't more women like this. I have a number of complaints from women lately if true love still exists. Without knowing this couple I would say that they know "true love" because they know what love should be based on. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/29/2008 8:28:30 PM | I have to be picky im 6'0 tall, i find alot of 'short guys' ( and they dont even think they are short) are very attractive, but thats just one quality i WONT budge on.
They mostly get soooooo bent out of shape about this, but guys , just understand and "let it go"... theres plenty of shorte women out there.... | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/29/2008 9:03:14 PM | | I'm 5'1''. I like a tall man always have. I have dated short men. The ones that believed in themselves were great. But too, many have the "Napoleon Syndrome"(the need to try to make others feel inferior to themselves.) | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/29/2008 9:28:48 PM | | I prefer men that are taller than me. I went on a date with a man who was my height once and I am only 5'4", medium build, average weight, but I felt like a great big huge amazon woman. It just felt awkward for me just standing next to him and then dancing was strange too! He was the nicest guy in the world, I just couldn't picture myself spending the rest of my life with a man my height or shorter. I want to feel sexy and petite next to my man, not like a pro wrestler with a sidekick...oooooh, that wasn't nice, sorry. No really, it's not like I haven't found some shorter men attractive or sexy, but, I suppose it's my own personal insecurities or something, or just a matter of preference. I am physically more comfy with a man approximately 6'. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/29/2008 10:27:52 PM | "They mostly get soooooo bent out of shape about this, but guys , just understand and "let it go"... theres plenty of shorte women out there...."
True and they are not interested in us anymore then tall women are. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/29/2008 11:00:55 PM |
I have to be picky im 6'0 tall, i find alot of 'short guys' ( and they dont even think they are short) are very attractive, but thats just one quality i WONT budge on.
Height is a "quality" now? When did this happen?
And why would you chose THAT as the one thing that is so important that you won't "budge on"? So a short guy is the worst option you can think of? Really?
I'm 5'1''. I like a tall man always have. I have dated short men. The ones that believed in themselves were great. But too, many have the "Napoleon Syndrome"(the need to try to make others feel inferior to themselves.)
You've never met tall men who thinks he is great? I meet them everyday in my line of work. Or are you saying that it's O.K. for tall men to think they are great, because they are great..But a short man who thinks he is great is delusional, and has a "complex"?
I prefer men that are taller than me. I went on a date with a man who was my height once and I am only 5'4", medium build, average weight, but I felt like a great big huge amazon woman. It just felt awkward for me just standing next to him and then dancing was strange too! He was the nicest guy in the world, I just couldn't picture myself spending the rest of my life with a man my height or shorter. I want to feel sexy and petite next to my man, not like a pro wrestler with a sidekick...oooooh, that wasn't nice, sorry. No really, it's not like I haven't found some shorter men attractive or sexy, but, I suppose it's my own personal insecurities or something, or just a matter of preference. I am physically more comfy with a man approximately 6'.
You feel more comfy with a man who is eight inches taller than you?
Why is it that nasty posts like these go unnoticed, but the second the tide turns and the thread becomes a substantive discussion about shallowness, or heightism, or height bigotry; the thread gets shut down and deleted?
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/29/2008 11:41:22 PM |
Why is it that nasty posts like these go unnoticed, but the second the tide turns and the thread becomes a substantive discussion about shallowness, or heightism, or height bigotry; the thread gets shut down and deleted?
Because a substantial portion of the online dating pool are shallow skanks. It makes no difference what they want - they aren't getting dates in real life and they aren't getting them here.
As to 'substantive discussion' - for every one poster who can manage a thought, there are ten who find the use of two-syllable words highfalutin. Concepts like 'Napoleon complex' are just a crutch for the thinking impaired. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/30/2008 12:47:16 AM |
You'll get no argument here - the question is, are the tall men really better managers, or are taller men being promoted over more deserving shorter men due to superficial perceptions? The true talent of a supervisor is in the perceptions of those below them in rank. If height is an important component of that, then that is a consideration.
As to 'substantive discussion' - for every one poster who can manage a thought, there are ten who find the use of two-syllable words highfalutin. Concepts like 'Napoleon complex' are just a crutch for the thinking impaired.
Technically the term "Napoleon Complex" does not exist as a mental disorder. It's a social stereotype aimed at short men. The working term for this is "inferiority complex" and it is based on Alfred Adler's work. The word Napoleon was coupled with is, as Adler used Napoleon as an example. Actually, Napoleon was said to be of average height for a Frenchman of that period.
Related to this subject, there was a study at Cornell in 2005 where men become aggressive if they feel their masculinity is threatened. Height was not directly researched in this, but inferences may be made as you please. It's not a long stretch if masculinity perceived by females is relative to height.
Another study published recently from the University of Groningen in the Netherlands, ties shorter stature to a higher levels of jealousy among males, but a study from the University of Central Lancashire, found short men were less aggressive. However the British study included only 20 men and the study in the Netherlands contained 219 men. As far as the study goes since they are not the exact same sort of experiment it is like comparing apples and oranges.
There are all kinds of preferences that people have when choosing a date. Height may and or may not be one of them. Just because someone has a preference, does not make them a "shallow skank". It makes them a person with preferences.
Just remember when you are trying to find a date, that it is not a helpful strategy to sit around and bemoan the reasons why you don't have one. This calls attention to your, pardon the pun, shortcomings. It makes you look like a bitter person, and that is not a very attractive feature in anyone, regardless of their position in life. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/30/2008 4:08:56 AM | | Did anybody see that movie "Failure to Launch" with Matthew McConaughey and Sarah Jessica Parker? There was one scene where SJP leaves with her roommate while MM and his 2 friends look on. The tall friend lives at home and works in some kind of electronics superstore. The short friend also lives at home but makes a good living as a programmer. SJP's roommate shows interest in the tall guy in spite of the salary the short guy is making. The tall guy isn't interested in her. Finally, the roommate gives the short guy a chance. She might like him in the end, but she also treats him like $hit. The short guy takes it. After all, he doesn't have a chance with the overwhelming majority of North American women who prefer a tall guy. "Tall, dark, and handsome" is just a saying, but which word comes first? Actually, a guy who's "tall, pale, and ugly" has a better chance with women than a "short, dark, and handsome" guy does. That explains why a guy who's 6'1" can do better with women, even though he might be lazy, can't keep a job, plays videogames all day, lives at home with mom, and has a huge gut. Women are willing to overlook negative qualities just so they can be with a tall guy. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/30/2008 4:25:14 AM |
The true talent of a supervisor is in the perceptions of those below them in rank. If height is an important component of that, then that is a consideration.
This is a dangerous argument. Why not extend that same logic to race and gender? Therefore, if a person's gender gives the perception to those below them in rank that she is less competent than a male, then that should be taken into consideration against her? And the same for race? Just like race and gender, height is an immutable physical characteristic that may expose one to social disfavor.
There are all kinds of preferences that people have when choosing a date. Height may and or may not be one of them. Just because someone has a preference, does not make them a "shallow skank". It makes them a person with preferences.
But what about height requirements? Surely that is shallow, no? By setting a height requirement, a woman is saying that even the worst guy taller than some arbitrary height is better than the best guy who is bellow that height. That is actually almost something worse than shallow.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/30/2008 4:41:18 AM |
I am 5' 10" and plenty of men that are shorter than me have been interested in me.
Yes, BUT, have you shown interest in shorter men?
I know a few fat men that have been rejected by many women because of their weight.
Well, of course....but we're talking weight here not height, obesity can make any person look unappealing while HEIGHT does NOT. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/30/2008 4:49:23 AM | The best thing about short guys is that you can joke and say that you will have to carry him over the threshold when you get married. 
Have him step on a chair to kiss you. This way, you are sure he is putting effort into the relationship.LOL!!
You can joke around and pretend he is your little brother. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/30/2008 4:55:54 AM |
Have him step on a chair to kiss you. This way, you are sure he is putting effort into the relationship.LOL!!
LOL....funny that you mention this, but there's truth to it....I get sick of women saying, "I don't want to have to bend over to kiss him" or whatever hinderences just "kiss" someone. OR him standing on his tippy toes to kiss her. As if this "height" thing is some sort of inconvenience.
Listen, if someone is willing to get a step stool or stand find a way to kiss you, it's the OPPOSITE of a red flag...it's a green flag....meaning that person is willing to make some kind of effort int he relationship.
I actually knew a really short girl that wouldn't date tall women, because it would put a "kink" in her neck to kiss him...and I'm like "So? You're point"? | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 4/30/2008 6:26:51 AM |
The true talent of a supervisor is in the perceptions of those below them in rank. If height is an important component of that, then that is a consideration.
The 'true talent' of a supervisor is to recognize true talent. I suppose you can't expect 21st American to make a distinction between perception and reality, but even if people 'look up' to taller men, it hardly matters if their tall leader leads them off a cliff.
There are all kinds of preferences that people have when choosing a date. Height may and or may not be one of them. Just because someone has a preference, does not make them a "shallow skank". It makes them a person with preferences.
Perhaps you're entering this thread without having read previous posts. There has been extensive discussion of 'preferences' v. 'requirements'. We all have preferences, but those with healthy, mature approaches to other humans generally place their preferences within a basket of needs, without letting one preference, particularly a superficial preference, dictate their actions. Many women specify height as a requirement ... and are shallow skanks, who positively abound here on PoF.
Just remember when you are trying to find a date, that it is not a helpful strategy to sit around and bemoan the reasons why you don't have one.
Are people here looking for dates? I'm just here for the forums. Best strategy for getting a date: going out and meeting, in person, a woman whose taken the effort to haul her ass out from behind her computer, rather than sitting home and man-shopping. Worst dating strategy: thinking the horrible, shallow profiles on PoF represent all, or most, women. | |
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