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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/7/2008 7:35:59 AM | I tower over so many people here in the NE men & women.
What does geography have to do with height? I live in the Boston area, but I have visited other parts of the United States. I haven't noticed a major height difference. I'm 5' 10" and much taller than most women regardless of geography. I am slightly taller than a man with average height. There is no way that a woman is 5' 6" would be much taller than many men. A woman who is 5' 6" is still 3 inches shorter than the average man. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/7/2008 3:01:32 PM | | Well, I'm only 4'10" and I would love the opportunity to go out with a short guy. But it has never happened. The "shortest" guy I ever went out with was 5'11". My ex-husband was 6'3" and my last boyfriend was 6'7". Talk about getting bad kinks in the neck. But every guy that I've gone out with liked short petite women so I guess I had something going for me, lol. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/7/2008 10:52:58 PM |
Here's my short take on it: "Shortness IS as shortness DOES"
I don't even understand what this means.
What about the short guys who don't think that their shortness is a bad thing or something that they should be ashamed of?
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/8/2008 6:47:32 AM |
What about the short guys who don't think that their shortness is a bad thing or something that they should be ashamed of?
They would be the ones getting dates I would assume, no one likes to be around people who feel sorry for themselves. I have a good friend who has MS, she is frequently in pain and struggles daily with her disease... she is also the most active and positive person I know.. and she never complains that her disability holds her back, or that she deserves special treatment. She puts able-bodied people to shame.
My very first boyfriend was 5'3"... never seemed to be a problem for him... my late husband was 6'4"
I don't really care if I find them attractive and they have awesome personalities.. but to be truthful my eyes do tend to notice the taller men first, and the better-lookin' ones. Of course then they frequently open their mouths and ruin the effect. There's so much more to people than just the outside... but beauty and size ARE what we notice first. It's the whole first impression thing, and I believe it is mainly subconscious. More mature people will be able to see the 'more' in others and give it the credence it deserves.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/8/2008 7:23:41 AM | but beauty and size ARE what we notice first
I'd say very few men are particularly conscious of a woman's height, if at all. It certainly means nothing to me. Sorry, but that's a gal thing.
Self confidence is an important component of getting dates, as is the efficient use of one's time. Shallow women, and women who are excessively anal about physical traits, are time wasters, which is one reason why this discussion is important for men to have. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/8/2008 9:59:26 AM | Very few men are conscious of a lot of things, especially details.. why do you think we have to point out a new hairstyle, or outfit? (woman) "honey, what do you think?" (man) um-oh *what the hell am I supposed to notice?* "looks great sweetheart!" 
I would think men would be more conscious about a women who was taller than average than the height of a woman who was short or average, especially if they were topping the six foot mark...just a hunch.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/8/2008 10:15:24 AM | Absolutely........It all is relative to your size and what you want, or wants you.......
I think the first thing I notice when I see a female, will be the over all attractiveness and looks of that person, then I will notice the height and condition of that person. The shoes she may be wearing, the clothes and over all symmetry.
I am caught in that same complex situation that many women seem to be, and that is that I prefer to be with another that is my height or smaller, and not with someone that makes me feel smaller in stature overall.
When I see women and have to look up at them instead of into their eyes, or down to their eyes, it does have an effect on me. If a woman is 5'10" and puts four inch heels on, the symmetry of the two of us just is not right with my 5'10" frame. Just as women enjoy wearing heels and how it makes them look and feel, men enjoy having women in heels as much.
This also can be with body frame and weight as well, and as a man that is not large in stature, I prefer to have my dates be my size or smaller........all a matter of preferences....
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/8/2008 10:23:32 AM | | i really dont get it, i would never descriminate against any possible match by any physical trait at all, believe me the prettiest lady i ever dated used to turn heads every where we went and what a **** she turned out to be!, eight and weight shouldnt count for anything, i always tell myself that when i meet miss right i will instictively know, if i was so sure of every pysical trait she would have then i may as well just put out a photo fit of her and put posters up every where, all i can say to you ladies who are obsessed with a guys height is stop being so shallow, im sure most of you are lovely ladies but how would you feel if you approached a guy who pysicaly was your ideal and he told you you were to fat, to short, to ugly,or to hairy, you would be rightly devastated because he didnt even give you a chance, you should all just follow your hearts and not be so wary to judge people on looks alone. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/8/2008 10:38:14 AM | I would think men would be more conscious about a women who was taller than average than the height of a woman who was short or average, especially if they were topping the six foot mark...just a hunch.
Maybe some men would, but many other men don't care about height or actually prefer taller women. Women generally care about height than men do. BTW less than 1% of women are at least 6 ft tall or more. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/8/2008 10:51:13 AM | I rejected more wimminz because of their height then they rejected me... One thing I cant stand is the tall wimminz....yikes! such a turn off.... | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/8/2008 11:56:50 PM | They would be the ones getting dates I would assume, no one likes to be around people who feel sorry for themselves
Why would you assume this?
The women who have height requirements do so because they have a problem with short men....not because short men have a problem with themselves. These women would rather be with a taller man with no confidence than a shorter man who was brimming with confidence (remember, a short man with confidence is said to have a Napoleon Complex).
Also, it seems to me that the men who love their height or who do not have a problem with it would apt to be MORE offended by height bigotry or rejection on the basis of height. It's the men who consider their height as a flaw, and something they should be ashamed of and "make up for" that would tend to care less about height bigotry. These short men are probably considered "fun loving" by most women. But I'm not sure if such a posture would get them more dates.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 6:46:55 AM | I'm 5'7" and I have no problems with my height. The only reason I would wish to be taller is to attract more women. At the same time, when a woman falls in love with me I know that she's falling in love with me for who I am instead of how tall I am. I didn't even realize my height was an issue until I was 28 and trying to meet women online. 2 women told me I was "too short". Now that I look back I'm glad it happened because I'm sure women like that don't stop with height; I'm sure they have other superficial requirements such as salary and the kind of car the guy drives, etc.
And really, should height even be in the top 10 requirements a woman has? I'd like to think that other qualities a man has would be more important than whether or not he can reach things on the top shelf or slam dunk a basketball. If I were a woman, I'd consider things like his dependability. He wouldn't have to make money like Bill Gates, but would he make enough to be able to support a family with just his salary once they start having children? Does he get up and go to work all the time, even when he doesn't feel like it? Is he considerate? Does he make you feel like you're number 1 in his life? Things like that are much more important than how you look with him in public or with family, friends, and co-workers, whether you're wearing high heels or not.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 6:59:52 AM | I love this forum, I can bench 350 so theres not too many women I can't pick up, put on my finger and spin them like a top | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 7:43:24 AM | I prefer taller men though i have dated shorter guys, a bit under 6 feet is ok. The thing is my ex was 6'5" and i like to wear heels.... my opinion
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 8:22:52 AM | I'm not too concerned about height.
Good people who "get you" and match you are extremely hard to find in this life. If you find one, you hold onto them as tight as you can and consider yourself lucky. If that means the person is a couple of inches shorter than you then that's ok.
That being said there are some men who think height is the ONLY issue as to why they are not getting dates and that's just not true. Even if you were taller overnight there could still be deal breakers at work against you.
I have never met an extremely wealthy short guy who was alone not by his own choice. I think men need a better job of doing the math at what motivate most women. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 3:06:25 PM | "The women who have height requirements do so because they have a problem with short men....not because short men have a problem with themselves. These women would rather be with a taller man with no confidence than a shorter man who was brimming with confidence (remember, a short man with confidence is said to have a Napoleon Complex)."
Exactly, people always say to short guys " just be more confident and you'll get a woman stop feeling sorry for yourself!" What they don't realize is that you could have all the confidence and charisma in the world and it wouldn't make a difference if you were trying to establish relationships with heightists and bigots (which a large majority of women are) | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 3:13:54 PM | The thing is my ex was 6'5" and i like to wear heels.... my opinion
SANDBUG -
Could you clarify your point when you say "I like to wear heels". What does that mean when you say, "I like to wear heels"?
I love this forum, I can bench 350 so theres not too many women I can't pick up, put on my finger and spin them like a top
LOL League...tell me about it...I get a kick out of these really handsome guys that work out, and have a great build....women should probably DROOLING over them...however. "Yeah, you have a great bod...but sorry, you're just too short"
I don't get that. LOL!
Anyone notice the irony in that? | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 3:22:25 PM | I have no issue with men that are shorter than me. If he's a nice guy who cares!
And if he is as talented as leagueof extraordinarymen I wouldn't complain at all....  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 3:43:55 PM | Perhaps it's just me, but this makes me want to barf. Please, use the bag conveniently located under your Forum seat. We have exits on either side of the thread if you feel the need to excuse yourself......
I can bench 350 so theres not too many women I can't pick up, put on my finger and spin them like a top bullie steps up..... ME FIRST! Spin MEEEE~
My loves have all been under 5'9". I was fine with that. It's nice when your bodies fit like a lock and key.... No crooked neck muscles and the ability to sneak in kisses without preamble.
Doesn't much matter to me. If he's all that, and I can wear my three inch heels, we're all good. Ah hell, did that just scratch my chance at a spin league???  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 4:53:43 PM | Last weekend I had my once-per-millennia evening out. Even more rare, it was a dress up evening out. Naturally, given my forum height obsession, I started noticing women, their heels, and their dates. I immediately saw couples where the woman, in heels, was either at her date's height or a little over. Then I realized that such couples were not uncommon at all. And at the end of the night, I realized that heel assisted women who were as tall as their partners were probably half of all couples at the event. My explanation: most women actually have enough SELF-CONFIDENCE in their own femininity that being at the same height as their partners makes no difference.
I've also been keeping up with another forum thread about a man engaged to a woman who finds out that she's eight years older than she told him. He's wondering whether he should call off the marriage. Check out the rage being directed at this guy by female posters ! I'm not really shocked by the number of women that think they have a right to lie about their ages, but I am shocked about their passion in defending their right to do so - and their insistence that 'age is just a number.' Well, height's just a number, too. Wouldn't you love to know how many height queens who dropped by this thread to belittle men for a single physical characteristic had shaved a few years of their ages? More than few, I'd guess. I'd love to see the verbal gymnastics explaining why finding someone unattractive due to height is cool, while age based judgments are a crime against humanity.
When I first started reading this thread, the women, and men too, who stopped by just to say, 'sorry, but I'm just not attracted to short guys' or 'I want to see my girl looking up at me' annoyed me. I now think they're funny, like people who are always getting goofed on for saying idiotic things. In other words, I'm not laughing with them. If you're middle aged, and you're advertising yourself here on PoF because you can't get dates, and you think wanting a tall man 'because you like to wear heels' is just common sense, you need to smarten up. If you can. Really.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 7:03:01 PM | 4Duty....come on man....you know women are allowed to have double standards, men are not. 
Maybe us men should start going around to all the shoe stores/departments and cutting off all heels on shoes. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/9/2008 11:08:53 PM |
4dutyandhumanity wrote: Last weekend I had my once-per-millennia evening out. Even more rare, it was a dress up evening out. Naturally, given my forum height obsession, I started noticing women, their heels, and their dates. I immediately saw couples where the woman, in heels, was either at her date's height or a little over. Then I realized that such couples were not uncommon at all. And at the end of the night, I realized that heel assisted women who were as tall as their partners were probably half of all couples at the event. My explanation: most women actually have enough SELF-CONFIDENCE in their own femininity that being at the same height as their partners makes no difference. Well, at least the women at the party aren't on here griping and complaining that they can't find any good men when they overlook (no pun intended!) guys under 5'10".
I've also been keeping up with another forum thread about a man engaged to a woman who finds out that she's eight years older than she told him. He's wondering whether he should call off the marriage. Check out the rage being directed at this guy by female posters ! I'm not really shocked by the number of women that think they have a right to lie about their ages, but I am shocked about their passion in defending their right to do so - and their insistence that 'age is just a number.' Well, height's just a number, too. Wouldn't you love to know how many height queens who dropped by this thread to belittle men for a single physical characteristic had shaved a few years of their ages? More than few, I'd guess. I'd love to see the verbal gymnastics explaining why finding someone unattractive due to height is cool, while age based judgments are a crime against humanity. If these women got e-mails from guys under 5'10" who lied about their height and met these guys in public, they'd be on here griping about short guys lying about their height when the truth is most North American women wouldn't even consent to meeting a guy under 5'10". Can't have it both ways, ladies. In reality, it wouldn't be a bad idea for guys to act like a liquor store and card every gal who comes into his life.
When I first started reading this thread, the women, and men too, who stopped by just to say, 'sorry, but I'm just not attracted to short guys' or 'I want to see my girl looking up at me' annoyed me. I now think they're funny, like people who are always getting goofed on for saying idiotic things. In other words, I'm not laughing with them. If you're middle aged, and you're advertising yourself here on PoF because you can't get dates, and you think wanting a tall man 'because you like to wear heels' is just common sense, you need to smarten up. If you can. Really. Two of my better girlfriends were about my height, if not a little bit taller, so height isn't as important as age would be. Even age isn't all that important when you're in a relationship with a foreign gal. Just as long as you're not old enough to be her dad. In some cultures a single woman over 25 is looked at as undesirable since the local men want women under 25, so an American guy can score a real babe overseas. If he tried to score a North American woman with similar looks or age, he had better be tall or rich or he'd get rejected right off the bat. Which is why a lot of players "fake it (being rich) until they make it (with the gal)". | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys? Posted: 5/10/2008 9:36:51 AM |
Wouldn't you love to know how many height queens who dropped by this thread to belittle men for a single physical characteristic had shaved a few years of their ages? More than few, I'd guess. A person I know who does research in this area, commented recently something along the lines of a study which found 8 times as many people on whatever dating site it is they were studying were age 29 compared to the average number of people at other ages (and there were other spikes in numbers around a few other obvious ages; can't remember if there was a gender associated with it, but there is other work that shows women are more likely to lie about age then men). Actually hearing that explained a lot, because I do notice a lot more 29 year olds show up in my searches than other ages. Now to be fair, there may also be a "OMG I'm almost 30 and not married" so she signs up for a dating site effect, but I suspect it's more than just that. | |
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