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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/9/2008 11:08:53 PM |
4dutyandhumanity wrote: Last weekend I had my once-per-millennia evening out. Even more rare, it was a dress up evening out. Naturally, given my forum height obsession, I started noticing women, their heels, and their dates. I immediately saw couples where the woman, in heels, was either at her date's height or a little over. Then I realized that such couples were not uncommon at all. And at the end of the night, I realized that heel assisted women who were as tall as their partners were probably half of all couples at the event. My explanation: most women actually have enough SELF-CONFIDENCE in their own femininity that being at the same height as their partners makes no difference.
Well, at least the women at the party aren't on here griping and complaining that they can't find any good men when they overlook (no pun intended!) guys under 5'10".
I've also been keeping up with another forum thread about a man engaged to a woman who finds out that she's eight years older than she told him. He's wondering whether he should call off the marriage. Check out the rage being directed at this guy by female posters ! I'm not really shocked by the number of women that think they have a right to lie about their ages, but I am shocked about their passion in defending their right to do so - and their insistence that 'age is just a number.' Well, height's just a number, too. Wouldn't you love to know how many height queens who dropped by this thread to belittle men for a single physical characteristic had shaved a few years of their ages? More than few, I'd guess. I'd love to see the verbal gymnastics explaining why finding someone unattractive due to height is cool, while age based judgments are a crime against humanity.
If these women got e-mails from guys under 5'10" who lied about their height and met these guys in public, they'd be on here griping about short guys lying about their height when the truth is most North American women wouldn't even consent to meeting a guy under 5'10". Can't have it both ways, ladies. In reality, it wouldn't be a bad idea for guys to act like a liquor store and card every gal who comes into his life.
When I first started reading this thread, the women, and men too, who stopped by just to say, 'sorry, but I'm just not attracted to short guys' or 'I want to see my girl looking up at me' annoyed me. I now think they're funny, like people who are always getting goofed on for saying idiotic things. In other words, I'm not laughing with them. If you're middle aged, and you're advertising yourself here on PoF because you can't get dates, and you think wanting a tall man 'because you like to wear heels' is just common sense, you need to smarten up. If you can. Really.
Two of my better girlfriends were about my height, if not a little bit taller, so height isn't as important as age would be. Even age isn't all that important when you're in a relationship with a foreign gal. Just as long as you're not old enough to be her dad. In some cultures a single woman over 25 is looked at as undesirable since the local men want women under 25, so an American guy can score a real babe overseas. If he tried to score a North American woman with similar looks or age, he had better be tall or rich or he'd get rejected right off the bat. Which is why a lot of players "fake it (being rich) until they make it (with the gal)". | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/10/2008 9:36:51 AM |
Wouldn't you love to know how many height queens who dropped by this thread to belittle men for a single physical characteristic had shaved a few years of their ages? More than few, I'd guess.
A person I know who does research in this area, commented recently something along the lines of a study which found 8 times as many people on whatever dating site it is they were studying were age 29 compared to the average number of people at other ages (and there were other spikes in numbers around a few other obvious ages; can't remember if there was a gender associated with it, but there is other work that shows women are more likely to lie about age then men). Actually hearing that explained a lot, because I do notice a lot more 29 year olds show up in my searches than other ages. Now to be fair, there may also be a "OMG I'm almost 30 and not married" so she signs up for a dating site effect, but I suspect it's more than just that. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:02:04 AM |
8 times as many people on whatever dating site it is they were studying were age 29
Wouldn't surprise me. I'd broaden that to include ages ending in 9 generally. They seem overrepresented.
And certainly, men lie about their ages too. I caught someone I knew slightly claiming to be years younger than me, when I knew he'd graduated from high school years ahead. Very amusing. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/10/2008 3:20:34 PM | "If these women got e-mails from guys under 5'10" who lied about their height and met these guys in public, they'd be on here griping about short guys lying about their height when the truth is most North American women wouldn't even consent to meeting a guy under 5'10". Can't have it both ways, ladies. In reality, it wouldn't be a bad idea for guys to act like a liquor store and card every gal who comes into his life. "
Women won't admit it (even though many of them are totally transparent about it and also very bad liars when it comes to height preferences) It's the height they have a problem with not the fact that he lied. by the same logic she should be upset if a guy turned up taller then stated on his profile. BECAUSE HE LIED or if his eyes were brown when he said they were blue.
it's the height they're pissed off about not the lie. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/10/2008 3:38:42 PM | I really don't understand why you guys are still talking about this......
there are tons of beautiful short wimminz out there 5'0-5'3 ......
why bother with someone who doesnt want to be with a shorter man?
you guys are acting like average height for women is 6'0....
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/10/2008 4:15:46 PM |
I really don't understand why you guys are still talking about this......
Well Yari, these are the forums, and the forums are for talk. No talk, no forums, no fun.
I think we're performing a service ... to humanity. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/10/2008 4:27:40 PM | there are tons of beautiful short wimminz out there 5'0-5'3 ......
Going after shorter women doesn't necessary improve the chances of short men. There are plenty of women in that height range who wouldn't date a man who is 5' 5" or 5' 6" because he doesn't match their height requirement. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/11/2008 3:13:01 PM | ^^^
It's another foolish myth that people cling to that is 100% false. short women don't want to date short men anymore then tall women do. In experience shorter women were more hostile towards me then taller women.
My fist gf was taller then me. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/11/2008 4:22:44 PM | This is an easy one!!! Just like men are attracted to long legs, lots of women are also attracted to mens long legs!! Thats always the first thing that gets my attention. I love nice long athletic guys legs~!The short guys just dont have the thing that attracts me most! I look for a great smile next....but the legs are the first attraction! I think its a comfort thing too. I love the feeling of having the BIG STRONG man thing. Someone that can look out for me and I can feel safe with. I am over 6 feet tall and I feel uncomfortable with a guy shorter than me! Now there are lots of very hot short guys but they are just not a good match for me! And I think most of all you should feel totally comfortable with who your with!
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/13/2008 6:31:02 PM | i would never refuse someone based solely on their height compared to mine....tho i must say i prefer taller men.....it makes me feel more comfortable physically  | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/13/2008 7:16:48 PM | | That's exactly my point Jonathan. It means that it is not an issue at all unless someone acts "short" by being hung up about it and thereby making it an issue. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/13/2008 7:43:06 PM |
That's exactly my point Jonathan. It means that it is not an issue at all unless someone acts "short" by being hung up about it and thereby making it an issue.
So, for you, it's not whether or not the guy is actually short but whether or not he believes that he is short? So if a short guy thinks that he is tall, then that's O.k. But if a short guy knows that he is short and is proud of it; then he has a "hang up"?
I'm not trying to play "gotcha". I am really trying to understand what you mean. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/13/2008 9:03:45 PM | cg789
Please come with me to my next high school reunion. I'm not making this statement up. It's a "tribal" thing. Down in Cinti they are mostly German and English. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/13/2008 11:02:21 PM | I'm a short guy 5'4". My biggest issue is that my preference in women, 5'7" or shorter, want a guy 5'8" or taller. It always makes me laugh when a 4'10" woman won't date a guy shorter than 5'8". Yes, at least 10 inches taller folks. That's just the starting point, they WOULD date a guy up to 6'5". The guy is going to have back issues in the future with that much of a height differential. I guess some women just like to spin!
My problem is getting past the first email and the initial reaction to my height. Other than that, I have a great personality, stay healthy, workout to keep a tone body, dress well, and have a fantastic job. I've made the most with what was given to me.
Yes, for most women, height is the most important trait. It's the first thing they look at and the first thing they filter by. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't annoying.
Just to change topics a bit, how about the overweight women who wine that no woman could ever live up to the standards of beauty that magazines have put into guys heads. Yeah ladies.. right. Try exercising and eating healthy. Something you can change, but most refuse to. I can't change my height without excruciatingly (sp) painful surgery that probably costs more than 5 years salary.... nah, I think I'll just find a woman who is open to short guys ;)
Trust me guys, if women stayed the same size, but the average size of man increased to 5'9"... the majority of girls would set 5'9" to their limit. It's average ladies... meaning many guys are shorter and many guys are taller. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/13/2008 11:04:17 PM | Oh, and I don't count heels as height. If you're 5'4" and you're wearing 4" heels... you're still 5'4".
Do guys really care about heels? I would think it's more that the girls are self conscious, not the guys. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/14/2008 4:03:41 AM | NateDiesel, have you ever been to another country? (Canada doesn't count.)
One of my best investments has been learning major foreign languages of countries where English isn't spoken that much or well. Spanish and Portuguese mostly. Even so, there are men who don't know much of either language and yet when they go to Latin America the women treat them so much better. Yeah, I know, they want a green card, blah blah blah. American men are highly respected and prized in many places around the world simply because for the most part we're not womanizers or drunkards.
Go to Eastern Europe, Latin America, or Asia and for the most part the women there don't have problems with obesity as we do. North American cities are laid out to benefit the car and oil companies. Sure, some cities have gotten better public transportation, but for the most part it's people in cars. Same with folks who live out in the boondocks and commute to a bigger town to work. In a lot of countries not everybody has a car, so they walk and take public transportation. Want to go to another town? Take a bus. The food in tropical countries tends to be on the healthy side. When non-Westerners eat a mostly fast-food diet, they'll gain some weight as well.
There are foreign ladies here who live in big cities. That's also an option to explore.
Yeah, most North American women place too much importance on height. Not all tall guys are cheaters, but my older 6'1" brother has had 1 son and 4 daughters, 2 of them born out of wedlock from affairs he had had. But women here don't care about that; they just want a tall guy. Not surprising for a consumeristic culture where we'll buy huge cars until gas gets too expensive, where parents will do anything for spoiled children as long as they don't throw a temper tantrum.
Forget the leg surgery. You'd only get 2 to 3 inches extra max. If you had that kind of money, you could actually pay a woman to be your girlfriend.
I think one reason why more men don't pursue the so-called "mail-order bride" route is more or less a reason why they stick to Microsoft: FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt). Oh well, that just means more foreign ladies for me!
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/14/2008 8:46:35 AM | Please come with me to my next high school reunion. I'm not making this statement up. It's a "tribal" thing. Down in Cinti they are mostly German and English.
Maybe there is some truth to what you are saying, but I haven't noticed it. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/14/2008 8:54:54 AM | "That's exactly my point Jonathan. It means that it is not an issue at all unless someone acts "short" by being hung up about it and thereby making it an issue."
so if a tall guy is hung up about being tall is pushy and domineering or has self esteem issues does that mean he's acting "short"? define acting "short" what does that even mean?
you're not making much sense to be honest | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/14/2008 11:25:42 AM | | I've heard women say they want someone their own height or close to it because the relationship "feels" more equal. It's like, some men want big boobs-- really. My mother loved bald men. Some women really want a big penis, other's don't care; others won't even have sex with well endowed men. | |
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/14/2008 6:09:31 PM |
I've heard women say they want someone their own height or close to it because the relationship "feels" more equal.
I've never heard that before. Do those women prefer shorter men to taller men? Do they view taller men as superior to them? If so, I think they are as silly as the women who think that THEY are superior to shorter men.
It's like, some men want big boobs-- really.
How is it like that? Men reject women soley on the basis of their breast size now? When did this start happening? When did men start commenting on breast size in their profiles (i.e.: please don't reply if you are less than a D-cup)? This height obsession thing is nothing like the slight preference that some men have for breasts.
My mother loved bald men. Some women really want a big penis, other's don't care; others won't even have sex with well endowed men.
This is NOTHING like height requirements. How could you know a man's penis size before you are already in some sort of relationship? It's not the same as an automatic rejection because of height. And even baldness doesn't create requirements in most women. Most women don't have a requirement that says "must not be bald". At least, not that I've ever seen.
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/14/2008 6:10:48 PM |
so if a tall guy is hung up about being tall is pushy and domineering or has self esteem issues does that mean he's acting "short"? define acting "short" what does that even mean?
you're not making much sense to be honest
Exactly. I'm trying to figure out what she means by "acting short"? That's why I said, "what about the short men who are proud of their height and don't think there is anything wrong with being short".
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| Ladies: your take on short guys?
Posted: 5/14/2008 6:43:13 PM | Here is the opening statement in my profile: (I am currently 5'6" and in the wonderful age of the shrinking woman.... I was 5' 7.5" in my 'youth'.)
"Dating sites are like a box of chocolate, you don't know what you will get until you pick one. Some look delicious on the outside but the filling is not what you wanted. Be open to trying different shapes and sizes until you find the one you have been seeking."
Me being a larger woman, I do personally prefer someone my height or taller, just because a man my height or smaller makes me feel 'larger' if that makes any sense to you men. There is something to be said about the comments (which I agree) about 'fitting' to your partner. It just works better.
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