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| Does size matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 7:20:00 AM | Maybe it should be specified in each woman's profile whether or not the ring is important to them. It would be a useful tool for guys in knowing whether or not to contact them.
Even if I got the big ring, my income and finances are just average.....some day I would have to say I can not afford the new car/the yearly vacation/the shopping spree at Saks/etc and then what? She leaves me? She hates me? She says I don't love her?
She says I am a loser and a failure?
If she left me, would I get the ring back?
SSSSUUUUURRRREEEEE!
The best gifts are not the expected ones, but the unexpected, from the heart, non-mandatory ones. "Hey, I got this for you cause/ I know it would look great on you/because I knew you would love it."
"I DO love it! You are the best!"
They embrace and kiss passionately.
"I love you so much." They bask in the warmth of each other's breath and swoon ever so slightly, eyes closed, feeling the rush of passion that merges them together, unites them forever, no longer to be alone.
VERSUS
"Oh my darling, it would give me great pleasure for you to accept my proposal of marriage. Here is a modest token for the occasion."
"Oh Reginald! Of course I accept! It is so beautiful! I can't wait to show it to everyone!"
"You look more beautiful than ever with it on your finger, my precious!"
"Everyone will be so excited!" She kisses him quaintly, on the cheek.
"Oh...and Reginald......"
"Yes, darling?"
"You are not getting it back!"
So many women complain (on this site) about the lack of committment in men, it is hard to believe that when he DOES commit, they are going to make an issue of the ring.
To the women that value love, good deeds, true caring and loyalty more than the ring, thank you for renewing my faith in people!  | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 4:32:29 PM | It really shouldn't matter, however it does. When selecting a ring, a man needs to consider, that this token of his love, is intended to be worn forever, by the love of his life. You don't want to buy her something that she won't like. It's okay to ask her opinion, that of her friend, and also her parents.
There was a point in my life, where I wouldn't have wanted anything less than 3/4 of a carat, as that is what looks good on my hand, however, as I've gotten older, just a plain gold band would suffice nicely.
Depending on the woman you are giving the ring to, would be were you may want to start looking. There's women who are happy with a pawn shop ring, as the life you two lead may be that of a low income, and even the best laid plans, still cost money; while there are ladies who have lived the life of luxury all their lives, who shop at Nordstrom, Macy's, and Dillards, who would feel insulted at the idea of buying a ring in such a place.
The best thing to do, is to learn about your partner, and what kind of person she is, what she likes, and what she dislikes. Ask about a return or exchange policy, if you buy one, and she was hoping for something different...
CowTrucker
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 5:33:51 PM | | Well, the size would matter...but it would be relative to what the man spends on himself recreationally. For instance, I knew a man who took ski vacations every few weeks, had a fancy car, etc. -- would think he could be generous with a ring. If he wasn't, I'd figure he was selfish, or had other issues that had nothing to do with a sybolic jesture of love. If the man was far more modest with his finances, and I knew he loved me and would be a generous man with me throughout a marriage, I wouldn't even need a ring at all. I'd go get a nice CZ. Besides, I'd rather have a trip to Europe than a ring, anyway. | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 5:48:26 PM |
I don't know why this concept is so hard for most women to grasp, at least from the male perspective. Don't you ladies want someone to love you for you no matter what. Sickness. Poverty. Crisis. Failures. No matter what, you want a man to love you for you right? To stand by you no matter what?
NO I do not want a man to love me no matter what. Failures, crisis? If I royally fu*k up I would not want to drag another person down with me. I want to stand on my own two feet and hopefully have a partner that has goals to achieve and and wants me to encourage his growth as well. Drugs, alcohol, poor motivation or work habits those would be personal choices/failures that my partner cannot help me with, I would have to help myself. If you cannot handle it yourself in a crisis you better not be depending on someone to shoulder it for you. Strong couples survive because they can survive independently of one another. | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 5:59:11 PM | If anyone is worrying about the size of the ring ,this to me is pettiness at the most. Do you love each other ,have you got a plan for your lives,should this really be an issue ,NO WONDER ALL YOU FOLKS ARE divorced a couple of times ,come on people now,smile at
one another you got to love one another right now,
I myself have never jumped the broom[MARRIAGE CEREMONIES in africa],but if I propsed to a lady and she did not find the ring beautiful ,that is one thing,but if it was not large enough,I would walk away and let her settle with the large rock in her head | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 6:15:02 PM | As a matter of fact, yes - the ring size matters. A petite lady would look silly wearing a slobberknocker ring on her small hand, it should compliment her. But an itsy bitsy teeny weeny ring on a more statuesque lady would look pitiful indeed. Why not just ask her what style she likes, or let her pick one out when you both go shopping? Now that would work for me! 
Pink | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 7:38:10 PM | First, sorry for the delay in getting to this.... am getting ready for surgery on Wednesday and had several things to do this weekend in preparation.
Well, for those who have anxiously awaited the report over family unveiling. I can say the food was fabulous and tasty. The house was warm and cozy, candles, soft music playing in the back ground those Christmas classics we all know and love. Dinner was good with laughter and great conversations.
Dessert was served, chocolate rasberry cheesecake... with homemade whipped cream. OMGosh was it good. Things were going really well. My girlfriend's guy stood up and made a toast to friend. During the toast, he relayed that he wanted to marry her. Her family was immediately happy and excited, people talking all at once. He motioned for my friend to show the ring to everyone.
Suddenly all eyes were on her and she busted out crying.... she finally said that words I never thought anyone would ever say to a man who loved you. Having been the only woman I know who would actuallly say, "You don't understand, you make good money, I want a good money ring. One that says what you make good money."
A silent hush fell in the room and the Mother went white in the face, the Father said "I can't believe you." And the room quickly emptied to give my friend and her boyfriend a few minutes.
When they came out of the dinning room thirty minutes later, he left, ring in tow, girlfriend now searching for new boyfriend.
Today, I've been trying to find a way to see her point in it, and I still stand by my point of view and say that, No it doesn't matter to me. In the end, I would still rather have the man of quality over the "rock" on my hand. I guess not all feel that way though.
So, Well, apparently size does matter to some after all... | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 10:02:08 PM |
Suddenly all eyes were on her and she busted out crying.... she finally said that words I never thought anyone would ever say to a man who loved you. Having been the only woman I know who would actuallly say, "You don't understand, you make good money, I want a good money ring. One that says what you make good money." OH. MY. GOD!!
A silent hush fell in the room and the Mother went white in the face, the Father said "I can't believe you." And the room quickly emptied to give my friend and her boyfriend a few minutes. Omg... Poor Mom, and Dad!!
When they came out of the dinning room thirty minutes later, he left, ring in tow, girlfriend now searching for new boyfriend
Omg.... the poor man's butchered HEART!!
What a Nasty, NASTY piece-of-work Her Royal Bytch is! The ONLY redeeming thing I can find in any of her nastiness is that she didn't pull this BS on Christmas Morning! Noooo.... the next best thing though... The Family/Friend's Dinner SO close to Christmas.
So, Well, apparently size does matter to some after all...
Lord, almighty!.... Pray for this girl that wears the letter "C" on her chest, people!
Karma, karma, KARMA.
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<div class="quote">First, sorry for the delay in getting to this.... am getting ready for surgery on Wednesday and had several things to do this weekend in preparation. Oh, Cat!... I'm so sorry... (((((HUGS))))).... and, a week before Christmas, to boot.... Oh my word, Cat.... Please know, that my prayers for comfort, and a quick recovery, are with you.
Honestly, I just figured you were busy this 'close to holiday weekend', doing like most do on close to holiday weekends like shopping, partying... etc. Or maybe lurking the thread even, drawing out the suspense giggling at the monitor between batches of holiday baking or something... LOL And, that more then likely, everything at dinner went fine.
I had no idea that you were preparing for surgery! Me... My Holiday stuff is put out, and shopping done early, maxed on Holiday projects for now.. holiday cooking too, for that matter.. so my highlight this weekend - other then waiting with baited breath on the outcome of "The Engagement Ring Unveiling" theater - was washing my cat Sweet...
**kinda like surgery really... damage control, and about a yard of heavy gauze plus a half a tube of antibacterial ointment. It's like I told her while she glared as I ran the bath water... " What? All errands, and holiday stuff, is done for now. I have no love life, and there's nothing on TV!"  **
(((Hugs))) Cat....
Geez... now I can't wait for BDJ's reponse...
** Nevermind that I acually have two cats - Maisy's hid. Anyway, I found a gallon of interior paint while searching her out.  ** | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 10:11:56 PM | I think its ok to just ask her what she likes. Now of course some woman would disagree on account of some women figure if you really know them, you should know what they would like. But c'mon guys are not mind readers. And size does matter, but not where wedding rings are concerned ;) If she really loves you she'll love whatever size ring you buy. | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 10:35:11 PM | | Yes to me it matters! The bigger the better! I love bling and they are a girls best friend. U should read online and learn the 4 c's before u start shopping. If u don't read up on them the sales people will tell u what they think u want to hear. If u know what your talking about they won't try to pull one over on you. Start at the mall and go to all the stores that sell diamonds. Compare rings and prices. Last time I shopped for diamonds at my mall I found Andrews to be the best place. | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 10:55:39 PM | What should mater is that she like the ring
I asked a friend for her opinion and learned
It seems its not the size that counts its how much you spend.
Now you can get real diamonds created in a lab, not paste... real diamonds
You can get awesome stones for next to nothing.
from a gemologist perspective:
Color grade
Carat Weight
Clarity Grade
Cut Grade
http://gia4cs.gia.edu/media/how-gia-grades-diamonds.htm
I could spend about a $1000 on a ring with a 3 carat center stone with additional stones for a total of nearly 7 carats.....
She would rather have a natural stone of only 1 carat for thousands more that has a lower clarity and will have inclusions such as feathers carbon deposits etc......
She can not be happy with the nearly perfect stones because they were man made and do not cost as much
Who knew
Guess I'm cheap... I'd rather take a honeymoon in a tropical paradise put a down payment on a home or buy her a car than sink an insane amount on a ring
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 10:57:04 PM | Ya know what? It may not actually be the SIZE, but the PRICE (meaning anything over the quarter you can put into a gumball machine is too much!). A few months ago, I found a fabulous ring - and a heck of a bargain at just $2000.oo after tax and extra insurance. Make that the engagement ring AND the wedding jacket. He makes good $$, should have been THRILLED I found something so nice for so little. Was he? Nope.
Here we are, just before Christmas - all the sales going on... Day after Thanksgiving I find another ring - same carats as before, just as sweet, (engagement ring only) but for the low, LOW price of $500.oo after tax and insurance. Was he happy? Nope. Did I get it? Nope. Will I? Probably not. The sale is over. Ring is back up to original price.
I'm to be his live-in house maid, his babysitter for his previous children. His supportive rock and sex slave. The fixer of meals the planner of outings and the dogsbody for whatever comes down the pike.
Do you men REALLY THINK we should be happy with a cheap azz cubic zirconia ring that turns our fingers green, just because you 'love us'? But yet you can spend $ on other crap?
This is something you're ment to wear for the rest of your life - like a brand of ownership, and some of you want us to just 'live on love'.
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 11:22:55 PM | No, it is not about the ring, or the wedding, or if the napkins match your shoes it is about the marriage. Have her go with you to pick a ring out. But DO NOT go into debt for a ring or a wedding. Do yourself and your future spouse a huge favor and stay out of debt for the nuptials.
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 11:27:01 PM | Tag you wrote "I am to be his live-in house maid. his babysitter for his previous children. His supportive rock and sex slave."
That is for humor, right? Is that your opinion? His opinion?
I bet the kids can't wait for this union to be finalized.
He should have bought the ring though. Unless he is having second thoughts.
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 11:37:59 PM | And to the lovely sparkling rose......you said it all.
Seriously consider getting the cat declawed.
When the girl's father said "I can't believe you" I assume he was talking to the daughter (not the groom to be)
Good for him! I would have said the same thing to my daughter.
Tommorow I will look at my old Buick Century and say, "I want a good money car!"
No, I LOVE that old car.
The "C" that you say should be on the daughter's chest......is that for "carat"?????
Or the NASTY word......either one works.
And to Cat, who reported the story in such detail I felt I was there, What was the rest of the night like???????? Did people leave out of embarrassment?
I mean WOW.
Hope the Dad had some good liquor on hand | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/14/2008 11:43:16 PM |
I bought my ex a ring it cost me approx $1,700 after tax.
This is the description of the ring:
Certified Canadian Diamond
Maple Leaf Diamonds(TM)
One Lady's Pure White Gold 18kt. Palladium
4-prong solitaire engagement ring containing:
One Princess Cut Natural Diamond
Measurements 3.48 x 3.37 x 2.79mm
CT. Weight(total) 0.30ct.
Clarity: VS-2
Colour: G
Cut: Medium
Replacement Value $2,250
Total Weight of item 4.5 grams
Note: Diamond graded and weighed prior to setting.
Certificate of Origin
Mine of Origin: Ekati
Rough Weight 0.55
Polished Weight 0.30
Nope she still went off and boinked a co-worker. Maybe the size of the ring or amount spent might matter to some, but I am sure as hell glad I did not spend more than I did on it. | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/15/2008 12:14:17 AM | Yeeeees, I admit it - my post was a bit of humor, as well as a bit snarky.
And yes. He should have bought the damned ring.
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/15/2008 12:40:44 AM |
Suddenly all eyes were on her and she busted out crying.... she finally said that words I never thought anyone would ever say to a man who loved you. Having been the only woman I know who would actuallly say, "You don't understand, you make good money, I want a good money ring. One that says what you make good money."
You have GOT to be kidding me?! She actually had the BALLS to say that out loud in front of everyone?!
Unreal ain't the word I'd use...
Looks like another gold digger outs herself.
A silent hush fell in the room and the Mother went white in the face, the Father said "I can't believe you." And the room quickly emptied to give my friend and her boyfriend a few minutes.
I feel SO bad for Mom and Dad here. Like I told a girlfriend of mine after relaying this story, if that were my daughter I'd have told her "I'm embarrassed FOR you...". I can't imagine the humiliation the Mom and Dad felt at that very moment they realized their daughter was a selfish money grubbing douche. They probably feel they failed as parents...
When they came out of the dinning room thirty minutes later, he left, ring in tow, girlfriend now searching for new boyfriend.
But...we see there's a light at the end of the tunnel here, and buddy realized the error of his ways and ditched her like we do with trash. Maybe she'll use this "alone time" to re-evaluate her priorities in life and understand just how much her vanity and selfishness cost her. If she's smart even one iota, she'll wise up for the next one in line and accept whatever the f*ck she is given...lest she open her mouth again and ruin another engagement.
Ex girlfriend = EPIC F*CKING FAIL 
Today, I've been trying to find a way to see her point in it, and I still stand by my point of view and say that, No it doesn't matter to me. In the end, I would still rather have the man of quality over the "rock" on my hand. I guess not all feel that way though.
So, Well, apparently size does matter to some after all...
I'd try to see things from her perspective too, but I wouldn't be able to fit my head that far up my ass...
The size of the ring matters to her, but I wonder if she has any value placed on the man she just lost due to her ignorance and selfishness? Guess not...
He's better off without another hand digging for his wallet anyways.
Good riddance to wickedly bad rubbish. | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/15/2008 2:34:10 AM | [First, sorry for the delay in getting to this.... am getting ready for surgery on Wednesday ]
am so sorry you need surgery, hope it doesnt spoil your holiday & that things will be ok! Positive thoughts.
now to the girlfriend--"You don't understand, you make good money, I want a good money ring. One that says what you make good money."
I cannot BELIEVE she said something like this!! He must be crushed & I dont blame him- hope he finds someone deserving of his love. Now her parents know they raised a $$ grubbing B****H- sorry to be so harsh but I am just FLOORED. Dont think anyone on the forum expected quite this response from this woman, or maybe I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. All I can say is lucky for him he found this out before he married her.
I'm sorry.. she is your friend.. but WOW | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/15/2008 2:45:27 AM | | I'll tell you all one thing. I'm with BigDaddyJinx on this. If I ever to propose again and its a massive if, and the woman were to even hint that the ring was not "sufficient" in any way: too small, too gaudy, too/not enough whatever, then I'd feel strongly that I'd have to immediately take back the proposal, ring and all, and start looking all over again. That's because I'd have so misjudged the person and been blinded by love and/or lust that I must have made a serious mistake about them and that we weren't compatible at all. Anyone who judges me by the size of my rocks and my wallet is simply NOT someone I want to have anything to do with. | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/15/2008 2:46:48 AM |
Suddenly all eyes were on her and she busted out crying.... she finally said that words I never thought anyone would ever say to a man who loved you. Having been the only woman I know who would actuallly say, "You don't understand, you make good money, I want a good money ring. One that says what you make good money."
Please give the men of your state/country/town this woman's details...that way they can either a) run the F away knowing she's a gold digging... or b) start saving up.
I cannot even believe that a grown woman would have the GALL to say some crap like that.
Karma--her, out somewhere looking bad, seeing her ex out with another woman--wearing the ring she was supposed to have. And him grinning like a freaking cheshire cat cause of it.
Some women are just stupid. I agree Big Daddy Jinx...SPECTACULAR FAIL!!!!! | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/15/2008 2:52:02 AM | | Everytime I come to these forums I lose a little faith in people. I think I will forever be a bachelor. Gorge Clooney, Gene Simmons, Oprah know what they're doing!! | |
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| Does the size of the ring matter ?
Posted: 12/15/2008 3:32:15 AM | Okay.. call me a hopeless romantic...I don't care. I've never been a "material girl" so maybe I'm the exception to the rule..I don't know.
NO the size of the ring does NOT matter. My husband surprised me with a ring in November of 2007. It was a perfect diamond (d colorless) , a LEO...and it's 1/3 carot. He said he couldn't afford a bigger one (which is true) but he got me the perfect rated diamond in the size he could afford. It might be small.. but it looks like the HOPE diamond to me. I would have been perfectly happy with no engagment ring..and just a wedding band...but he wouldn't have it. We got married in June...and life is good.
The thought is what counts.. the representation of the ring.. not the size. Many people I know that have HUGE rocks.. never stay together long enough to pay them off.. maybe it's just a coincidence.. I dunno.
If the size is an issue... I'd re-evaluate the relationship..that's my opinion for what it's worth. | |
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