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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:33:29 PM |
I dunno, Ent. Wouldn't that mess with a person's karma? I mean, if they're bucking their dharma by offing themself?
Not really...after all reincarnation is a process you go through in order to "figure the path out" and reach a state of enlightenment...by killing yourself you wouldnt have reached that state..thus you come back to try again. | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:34:08 PM | | Well, from what I understand, it doesn't matter who in the human world knew. It's kind of something to do with self-perception or the gods (not quite clear on that one). Besides, the Ganges? Dude, it's filthy! | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:41:01 PM | | Well I guess one could drink some of the ganges and die of some sort of poisoning, that why your karma would not know you did. Unless there is some sort of cosmic bean counter keeping a track of all this lot.. How come I don't have any memories of India?? | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:43:09 PM | Suicide is not a good or honorable decision (excluding the sacrificial type), but I wouldn't say that it is an unforgivable sin. If it were, we could easily conclude that people who do it will not be in heaven, and that would be judging others (the bad kind of judging). It takes a lot of arrogance for a person to claim who will be in heaven and who won't, and I believe that is God's jurisdiction.
If that happened you would not need to repent because the death was not your fault. now if there was things in your life that was sinful and not repented of you might have a problem
The problem with that line of thought is that it sounds like you need to be completely sinless before you die-- or at least THINK you are completely sinless. Wow, the irony of that thought! | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:51:21 PM | God and God alone knows the hearts of men
what right do we have to determine or judge the decision of others??????
unless uve been there...and if u where u werent in ur right mind..then why even put a predictiment on what will happen to that person???
ive been there, and i was in the wrong state of mind....but i will not stand by and let that person who is suffering from some terrible disease...and let them suffer.....
if a family memeber asked me to pull the plug i would...theres already to much suffering in the world....why not let them go *home* and become at peace w/in themselves
we have no right to judge or determine the aspects of what someone does as accountable...
leave it....
its their desicion not ours......if their ur firned---dayum rite u better try and help em...if not what does that have to say bout urself???? | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 12/1/2005 12:35:21 AM | As flyguy said, he alowed himself to be killed.
He knew before he even got to Jerusalem that he would be kiiled if he went, yet he still went. He had plenty of chances to escape but he still went, he evensaid goodbye to his friends before he the event. Many people have died in the same way (particularly Hindus and Buddists), it is called martydom in religion, but is a form of assisted suicide in psychology.
Therfore, Jesus comited suicide. | |
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Joined: 1/8/2005
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 12/1/2005 12:53:46 AM | Ohhhhhh you are gonna get flack for that one bright.
Problem is one will definitely not like it. but he will do what he can to help you see him differently, and I hope he makes a breakthrough. God bless.. | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 12/1/2005 1:27:31 AM | | Like I said, Raziel, you could look at it that way. One could also take it as the sacrifice it was meant to be, according to the Bible. Of course, they're not necessarily mutually exclusive interpretations, either. | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 12/1/2005 11:06:08 AM | | Bright has a good point. Those martyrs who TAKE their lives for their religious beliefs could be said to GIVE their lives also, shouldn't this apply to Christ? It is suicide never the less; therefore it is a contradiction isn't it? Yes, of course I know why Christ gave his life, but it is not in keeping with Bible principles. | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 12/1/2005 11:18:14 AM |
Those martyrs who TAKE their lives for their religious beliefs could be said to GIVE their lives also ...
Those martyrs are kids/youth/children and it is the adult religious dogma that TAKE their lives from them. A very base example as my heart goes out to them. | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 12/1/2005 11:28:29 AM | | Jesus did not make them kill him, he did take what we as sinners should have got, but he did not kill himself with or without help. no. Any christian who says this needs to be very careful and rethink there position, for it is blasphemous. If your not a christian I guess it does not matter. | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 12/1/2005 11:31:39 AM | | God Judges the intention of your heart not the crime its self If someone ends their life for reasons other than just to do it. Iit seems it would be on a case by case basis and only between God and that individual. Certainly not for any of use to decide or judge. | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 12/1/2005 11:42:27 AM | ^^^ I agree with littletwin. God gets to make the final call here.
Those martyrs who TAKE their lives for their religious beliefs could be said to GIVE their lives also, shouldn't this apply to Christ? It is suicide never the less; therefore it is a contradiction isn't it? Yes, of course I know why Christ gave his life, but it is not in keeping with Bible principles.
Christians who are killed for their beliefs are considered martyrs, not really Christians who kill themselves for their beliefs. There was the Buddhist who made himself famous during the Vietnam conflict for setting himself on fire in protest. While showing a lot of dedication, I don't feel that is the Judeo-Christian way.
And how is sacrificial suicide "not in keeping with Bible principles"? For example, the soldier who throws himself on a grenade to save his comrades. | |
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| What do different religions think about suicide?
Posted: 12/1/2005 11:58:02 AM | | I am taking the word suicide literally... it applies to any given situation, whom ever the individual is. I know Christ gave His life and I know why, of course He knew what He was doing. What I am saying is that it's a dangerous premise/signal in the wrong hands, as we see almost everyday on the news. I am not likening His actions to that of a soldier or a suicide bomber! | |
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