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Posted: 10/6/2008 7:51:03 AM | well damm u should of invited me over!! i would of gladdly helped u out! | |
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Posted: 10/6/2008 8:33:19 AM | The term "slut" has held a derogatory attachment for a long time. However, as society changes, words gain new and different meanings. For some people, the term "slut" is a badge of honor. Wikipedia describes the transition nicely.
With BDSM, polyamorous and non-monogamous people, in usage taken from the book The Ethical Slut, the term has been reclaimed as an expression of choice to openly have multiple partners, and revel in that choice: "a slut is a person of any gender who has the courage to lead life according to the radical proposition that sex is nice and pleasure is good for you."[8] A slut is a person who has taken control of their sexuality and has sex with whomever they choose, regardless of religious or social pressures or conventions to conform to a straight-laced monogamous lifestyle committed to one partner for life. The term has been "taken back" to express the rejection of the concept that government, society, or religion may judge or control one's personal liberties, and the right to control one's own sexuality.
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Posted: 10/6/2008 8:40:11 AM | | In my dreams...for I am a one man women but toys are welcome!!! | |
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Posted: 10/6/2008 8:50:36 AM |
slut is a person of any gender who has the courage to lead life according to the radical proposition that sex is nice and pleasure is good for you."
You might have pointed out that your reference to the meaning of "slut" is taken from the book, "The Ethical Slut". Two author's use of the word for shock value hardly redefines the general usage of the word.
Are you going to next tell me that it is ok for black people to be called "N******" because some people think it's acceptable? I have a few friends that might not like that very much.
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Posted: 10/6/2008 8:58:18 AM | It is a common fantasy.
For individuals who are secure in themselves and their sexual identity, the various configurations of double-penetration can be an exquisitely exciting adventure.
For females who have the interest and choose to participate in the experience, it is important that your male partners be confident in their own sexual identity and are not homophobes. The reality of this configuration is that "parts may and will likely touch" or "swords might cross" in the process. Males who might freak out from these eventualities are not good candidates for the experience.
In addition, if this a dyad relationship, that relationship should have a strong foundation of openness and trust. Relationships that are in turmoil or are not rooted in a strong foundation of mutual trust should avoid bringing in a third party until these issues are addressed and a clear understanding of the relationships and its boundaries exist. These include rules.
Those not in a dyad relationship and perhaps just enjoying some recreational sex should follow the same rules with regard to males and their individual confidence in their sexual identity and not homophobes.
The most important thing is that the experience is to be one of enjoyment and pleasure, not just to say "I've done it". It should be a voluntary and mutually desired experience and not coerced or forced.
Therefore, if the goal is simultaneous vaginal and anal penetration, it would be helpful for the female to spend some time several weeks prior to the event learning to accept anal penetration by she and her partner introducing butt plugs in graduated sizes from small to a size comparable with the largest penis (girth especially) that will provide the anal penetration. She can learn to relax her sphincter and find the best water-based lubricants to she feels the most comfortable using. If there is concern about allergies to some ingredients, there is a fantastic lubricant product called "Good Clean Love" that is a natural product.
Being with partners whom you trust and will move slowly in accordance to your level of readiness will make the experience wonderful. Many women who take desire a double-penetration experience and who find the right partners, find it to be an orgasmic experience 2nd to none. It can be addictive and is exhausting. Some women find the resulting orgasm so intense and prolonged that recovery takes several hours and sometimes days. Others, wired a bit differently or with more stamina are ready again after a short break.
The key ingredients to a successful and satisfying experience is contained within the motive of the female and the partners chosen.
I participated in double-penetration experiences with partners that fit all of the criteria. I've participated with a couple wherein the female was coerced and extremely nervous--consequently it was not the best experience for her. That doesn't mean the female cannot be "hesitant" or "unsure", just never forced/coerced. Remember always that "stop, slow, easy, and wait" all mean what they mean when the female speaks.
My personal experience with this configuration results in one of three ways. 1) Never again! 2) Incredible, we've got to do this again, and 3) OMFG! This is my new favorite thing--I want do to this all the time!
Two and Three tend to be happen the most often. Number 1 is usually the result of forced participation or coercion. Personally, I developed a rule after the first "coerced" participatory experience which I learned after the fact, to be more discerning in the vetting process. I've never had #1 happen again.
Regardless of how some may view the sexual interplay, it is a personal choice between all participants. That's the wonderful thing about human sexuality--there's always something for everyone.
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Posted: 10/6/2008 9:05:28 AM |
You might have pointed out that your reference to the meaning of "slut" is taken from the book, "The Ethical Slut". Two author's use of the word for shock value hardly redefines the general usage of the word.
In a literate society, it is unnecessary to point out the obvious when it is clearly identified in the content. Two author's reintroduced a term in a positive frame and that positive definition is growing.
Shock value is a relative expression and means different things to different people. The term was socially constructed as pejorative term. It is being socially re- constructed to be a more positive term.
It's okay if you don't like it and don't be surprised at its lack of affect on others as it continues to lose its power as a pejorative and shaming tool for sex positive individuals.
The last sentence is not worthy of comment and is an apples to oranges comparison.
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Posted: 10/6/2008 9:38:06 AM |
For some people, the term "slut" is a badge of honor. Wikipedia describes the transition nicely.
The definition of "slut" is:
A woman considered sexually promiscuous.
A woman prostitute.
A slovenly woman; a slattern.
I'm sure there are people who think the term is a badge of honor. But then there are a lot of people who know better.... Incorrect usage by a small segment of the general population is not a valid form. It's simply incorrect usage. It's no more valid than calling a male dog or male cat "she". It may look the part on initial or casual inspection, but it's actual gender and reality is not changed.
Other words such as "ain't", "irregardless" are often used by a small segment of the population also incorrectly... | |
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Posted: 10/6/2008 9:57:27 AM | Incorrect usage by a small segment of the general population is not a valid form. It's simply incorrect usage. It's no more valid than calling a male dog or male cat "she". It may look the part on initial or casual inspection, but it's actual gender and reality is not changed.
Other words such as "ain't", "irregardless" are often used by a small segment of the population also incorrectly...
And yet, definitions of terms and their use change. While it may not be one's preference to use a term according to a new definition, it does not change the fact that others accept a new definition and use the term accordingly. The new definition transitions from being viewed as "incorrect" to "different" and as equally correct. A number of words have been redefined, some positively and some negatively.
Words only contain that power that those who hear or read it assign to it. Regardless, each individual will determine what, if any power, they will assign a term and its meanings.
Another sex positive redefinition is as follows:
S exual
L iberated
U nique
T alented
S isters
It is more important how individuals view themselves than how others might view them.
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ACP | |
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Posted: 10/10/2008 12:06:07 PM |
I participated in double-penetration experiences with partners that fit all of the criteria. I've participated with a couple wherein the female was coerced and extremely nervous--consequently it was not the best experience for her.
Wait. You participated when you knew she was coerced?
You do realise that essentially you're admitting to rape? No wonder "it was not the best experience for her" Rape usually isn't.
" similar reforms have been passed in the US, and most recently the UK. Such reform recognizes that submission does not equate consent and that women may be coerced in a number of non-violent but distressing ways. It addresses at least in part, the old and common assumption that men are entitled to use any means necessary to persuade or "seduce" a woman into sexual activity (5)
If a perpetrator has badgered a woman until she submits, he surely realizes that true consent is not present. Submission is not consent. "
What kind of fcuking man has sex with a woman who is being coerced? You should have stopped the proceedings and never repeated it...
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Posted: 10/10/2008 9:23:18 PM |
Wait. You participated when you knew she was coerced?
It is unwise to make assumptions. The information that revealed coercion came much later after the fact. There was no indication of coercion at the time. If that information was known, I would not have been participated.
Coercion is probably not the best term as there was no resistance. Neither was there any indication that the woman was forced to engage in the activity. Compelled might be a better choice.
Best,
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Posted: 10/10/2008 10:15:41 PM | 1. A slut is a woman that will sleep with everyone but you!
I love to participate in double filling! Toys let this happen with out ever bringing a third person into the bedroom.
You may say that toys just aren't the same, but I beg to differ! It must come along with a partner that is able to help you enjoy your fantasy!
It is one more way to enjoy the passion and lustful needs and day dreams that a partner has to offer!
It is really no different then reaching around from behind and rubbing her clit and pinching a nipple with my other hand and nibbling on her back as I fill her up! It is just multiple stimulation! (at it's finest!) | |
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Posted: 10/11/2008 12:24:26 AM |
The information that revealed coercion came much later after the fact. There was no indication of coercion at the time
Yet you said she was coerced and nervous... and not the best experience for her... something to that effect....
I think that you were aware but chose not to be. If I was trying to accomplish anything and the woman was 'nervous' I'd be stopping until everything was discussed completely...
Coercion is probably not the best term as there was no resistance.
As Chimera quoted, "submission is not consent" | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 5:02:22 AM | | DP's have an element of male bonding to them. The men team up to please the insatiable woman. Apart from evincing ecstasy, the woman's gyrations during the act can be thought as a form of fight-back. It's like a battle of the sexes, swords and all. | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 5:24:42 AM | | No thank you...do not want to participate in such thing... | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 9:33:40 AM |
The men team up to please the insatiable woman. Apart from evincing ecstasy, the woman's gyrations during the act can be thought as a form of fight-back. It's like a battle of the sexes, swords and al
Hmmm you know, I think it might also have a lot to evoke male dominance...
Like the stereotype of a gang of cave men circling the Mammoth... bringing it down together... | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 10:59:54 AM | " DP's have an element of male bonding to them. "
Yeah, It'sa big laugh when you're high-fiving the other guy and the slag is doing a spit roast between you.
A real DP is awkward though. Especially if you're on the bottom, she's in the middle and the other guy's up her arse from on top. It gets hot and sweaty too ****ing fast.
You either gotta let the slag do all the moving or none of it. If the timing is out someone gets a****in the wrong place! Two in the same hole is a little too gay for me. I've done it but it's not as much fun in my opinion. Besides it stretches the slag out too much. Also if one guy cums then she's just too sloppy. LOL
Usually if a woman lets' you DP her she's got issues or she's a skank. Some of them think it's cool but it's too much like ****ing a pig. | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 3:21:04 PM | | I LOVE double penetration.........but I prefer my man and my best friend purple peter. | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 3:30:47 PM |
A slovenly woman; a slattern.
I like the term slattern. I will work that into my daily lingo every day from now on. 
.Other words such as "ain't", "irregardless" are often used by a small segment of the population also incorrectly...
"ain't" and "irregardless" are not actual words. | |
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Posted: 10/12/2008 3:32:12 PM |
I LOVE double penetration.........but I prefer my man and my best friend purple peter.
That is the way to do it! Her, myself and a toy! When everything is right it comes off with out a hitch.
I am completely willing to ask her how the "other" guy feels and tell her to take "him" more or harder as though the "other" or "him" was real and not just a toy! Some call it roll playing some fantasy! I call it satisfying my partners needs.
Find a guy that has his ego in check and is able to actually ask questions with out being "hurt" by the answers, (such as who she wants to fantasize about being the second person) and is able to be a "story teller" so to say. With that anything is possible.. The limitations of pleasure are only as low as the two people involved!
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Posted: 10/15/2008 6:54:49 AM |
Yet you said she was coerced and nervous.
Nervousness or anxiety and coercion are not mutually exclusive. When someone is involved with a new experience and does not know how that experience will affect them, there is anxiety. This is not uncommon in this scenario.
As Chimera quoted, "submission is not consent"
When someone is invited and is never once told "No", stop, etc. consent is implied.
This couple is still together (23 years) and are quite happy. The issue here was not that she was forced to have this experience. She was not mentally ready to have the experience when it occurred. This couple continues to enjoy this particular configuration. We continue to be friends and we discussed the experience through which they revealed her hesitance. We all learned a valuable lessons from the experience.
Regards,
ACP | |
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Posted: 10/16/2008 7:00:42 PM | " This couple is still together (23 years) and are quite happy. The issue here was not that she was forced to have this experience. She was not mentally ready to have the experience when it occurred. "
Or she's too mentally ready to know better. Sounds like the most likely thing to me. | |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 11:15:53 PM | Dr Drew said the average man on the planet is 5 to 6in..................so we all need 2 now | |
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Posted: 10/19/2008 11:43:52 PM | I'm thining doggie style looking down at that pretty brown eye. Bunch of lube on my thumb. Little lite love then slide it in there! If she's really in to it I'll use both thumbs.
I would rather be deep in her blind eye with my willie and using a toy on her love box. That way I could rub on her clit too. Being able to watch her face makes it so much hotter too!
Oh, looky there. Just picturing it woke up the crowned prince!
Dr. Drew's got a little pecker then! | |
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