navy4u
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Joined: 5/1/2004
Msg: 351 | |
| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 11:03:17 AM | | elwood....thank you i am glad you understand that we are not brainwashed killing machines soldiers do not want to kill people. We fight only when we are fired on!Now here is a question ...how is it that an iraqi insurgent can cut off the head of a soldier or civilian, and we are not to do anything, but a soldier shoots a wounded insurgent who was moving and had not yet been cleared for weopons, and everyone thinks its the worst thing in the world. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 11:06:33 AM | They keywords you are missing there is "their own countrymen" Genius.
How is that a threat to the US directly? And please, don't insult us
with the old 911 excuse.... everyone knows Saddam was not a ring leader
in that except morons.
Based on your comment... If attrocities against thier own countrymen
is something the US is threatened by, and we have to attack countries that
didn't attack us first and if we have to protect the world from Religious Fanatics
(aside from our own of course), then we have a LOT of other
countries to invade... so hope you are ready for that draft. | |
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DMT
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Joined: 12/3/2004
Msg: 353 | |
| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 11:06:59 AM | | you are the invaders silly. It isn't your country. you have made things a thousand times worse. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 11:07:59 AM | | Sorry, that was directed at Varus the Brilliants Post MSG#377 | |
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DMT
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Joined: 12/3/2004
Msg: 355 | |
| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 11:11:09 AM | | Mine too. Isn't it funny that the ones who have done the least thinking over the space of their lives get all the attention. It's like the silly kids in schools who can barely wipe their a***s who misbehave and get all the classes attention | |
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DMT
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Joined: 12/3/2004
Msg: 356 | |
| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 11:13:23 AM | it's as though we all feel compelled to look after them, even though they are clearly a pain in the a***.
Also, isn't it strange how Varsus appeared just as watchman vanished. Perhaps there is only one spare room in the institution they use or maybe they are the same person? | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 11:15:12 AM | "Leeches are also much smaller than their hosts."
That was almost witty, except that that kind of stuff is not only childish but the stuff of real dolts.
Canadians are highly respected around the world, and we never have to wear American insignia anywhere on our bodies for fear that someone will attack us. Americans surely wear the insignia of the, uh, leech a whole lot... | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 11:16:09 AM | Navy... I'm pretty sure nobody thinks that soldier's reaction was worse than Insurgents cutting off heads.
Its the point that we are supposed to lead by example... not stoop to their level. A lot of people are still disgusted by the soldier putting a child "out of his misery" and the happenings in the Prisons... and there was no reason for that, so anything soldiers do now is going to be suspect. Blame those bad apples for the current opinions of some about the US armed forces... they did it to themselves. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 11:32:51 AM | Virus,
methinks that you and some of your cohorts do more than just post on boards for something to do, shall we say as a hobby... | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 11:42:32 AM | | Varus, the article you cite in the Calgary Herald, while quoted word for word still does not explain how canada is a leech to the us. all your quote proved was that the some educated canadians go the us to work...and this is sucking the us, how? if anything, your quote is more an argument for the us sucking canada dry of our educated expertise to avoid paying higher taxes in CANADA. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 11:46:12 AM | | Navy: yes, especially when some wounded insurgents have been suicide bombers... | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 11:53:33 AM | I don't think decent human beings who fight to overthrow murdering dictators or protect their nation (I'm not defending Bush, just giving the reasons OUR MILITARY joined in the first place) should risk their lives to protect organizations of murderers who have no problem deliberately killing innocent civilians of their own country or innocent women and children. If anti-US insurgents in Iraq want to be martyrs, kill'em and give them a hand (before they do it to you).
As I said: I don't believe in torture and I don't believe in killing a wounded SOLDIER who has surrendered and is cooperating with his captors. I don't believe the US should have invaded Iraq in the first place, for reasons we didn't have to and we didn't have a good enough reason. But since we're there and our people are trying as hard as they are to be humane and civilized, I don't think they should take unnecessary risks when they're fighting an enemy who has shown they will do this. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 11:55:06 AM | | generally when educated canadians re-locate to the us for work to avoid paying CANADIAN taxes (as the reason you quoted originally) they would be paying lower american taxes. this is not rocket science varus. please review your logic a bit before posting... | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 11:58:04 AM |
What you should be asking is if someone has a residency in Canada but works in the U.S. do they pay taxes to the U.S. or Canada?
I'm jumping into this thread pretty late in the game, but I assume Varus is a Bush-supporter. If that's the case Varus, why the hell are you worried about Canadian tax-payers living in the US? I'd think you'd have more worries about the tax-cuts Bush has made, and is going to make permanent.
Bush's tax-cuts for the rich are the ones driving the US economy to the ground. I'd think the tax-dollars lost to those Canadians currently resident in the US would be negligible compared to this. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 12:13:20 PM | There's nothing like calling people like Canadians or others, who are basically peaceful, and respected around the world, names like leeches to promote harmony in the world!
On the other hand, the saber rattling and the name calling is an aggressor's way of silencing those who can formulate thoughts of their own. When people are silenced, fewer people then notice the actual crimes that are taking place! There really is method to the madness!
Varus, I still think you need a better picture in your profile. The one you have there is out of focus, you know, kind of like the things you're sort of allowed to see but not really...
Women on here prefer being able to see an actual face than, say, something distorted. Of course, people with nothing hide don't hide anything, do they? | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 12:23:05 PM |
This was posted by Dmt earlier. At least my criticisms are light and entertaining; however they do lack the rabid hatred exhibited by you and your ilk.
Really? Well then, let's look at a post you directed toward DMT in another thread:
A socialist mind at work. Just keep your ideology out of my pocket and I won't have to bring my 150,000 buddies to keep your socialist a*** in check, or in the case of Canada 150 buddies.
Ah yes, another of Varus' light and entertaining posts that is free of rabid hatred. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 1:48:07 PM | People who reside in Canada and work in the U.S. have to pay taxes in both countries - uh huh.
The shrub is not mentally ill, but is in need of serious trimming down to his real size. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 2:26:55 PM | varus: bush's tax cuts weren't tax cuts.
When you cut tax revenues and then spend in excess of them, the so-called "tax cut" becomes part of the national debt, which is now the biggest line on the budget outside of defense at 321 billion dollars in 2004.
The only real tax cut is when the money used in the tax cut is spent in the marketplace and creates enough tax revenue from being respent and respent that it replaces itself in the budget, such as Clinton's 97 tax cut did. He balanced the budget in 1999 and 2000. Bush was 400 billion over this year, 350 billion over last year... running up deficits.
We have to pay that "tax cut" money back; WITH INTEREST. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 2:29:43 PM | yeah.. that's how stupid you neocons are.. you'll even call each other "commies" and "socialists"... that shows how mindless it is.
You can call anybody names like that...
You still don't know anything. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 2:42:10 PM | Various (tee hee)
"poor old Canda"
crack me up.
We will take down the road signs and go north with our sled dogs.
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 2:46:45 PM |
You do realize tax cuts benefit everyone that pays taxes don't you?
Varus,
The Bush tax cuts are disproportionally slanted to favor the top percentage of US citizens. Volumes of literature are available on-line concerning this. Here are some links for your further understanding.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0115-05.htm
(Molly Ivins putting things in her own unique perspective)
http://www.cbpp.org/9-21-04tax-fact.htm
(Middle Class families will lose out if tax policy extended)
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/template.cfm?PubID=1000689
(Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center distributional analysis of Bush's tax cuts)
To quote specifically from the last link:
"if the eventual financing is proportional to income, about 80 percent of households, including a large majority of households in every income quintile, will end up worse off after the tax cuts "
"Even if the tax cuts raise economic growth by a significant amount (relative to existing estimates of the growth effects), most households will end up worse off after the tax cuts"
Essentially the lucky people at the top rake in all tax cut benefits while the vast majority of people in the US save a few nickels and dimes, comparatively speaking.
Not to mention the huge deficit the loss of this tax revenue created in the government's operating budget. Money that could have been used for education, health and welfare, or environmental protection instead found its way into the off-shore bank accounts of the wealthiest US citizens.
Don't buy into the hype. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 3:14:49 PM | varus: Bush purposely put us into a recession. Republicans ALWAYS put us into a recession.
Of the five years of Reagan and Bush, there were 3 years with recessions and 2 of less than 2.5 % economic growth, while the national debt grew from 970 billion to over 4 TRILLION dollars.
There hasn't been a DEMOCRAT President with a recession since Truman!
Why?
The same reason he gave us a tax cut that didn't stimulate the economy.
HE knows that giving the richest 5% of wage earners their tax money back isn't going to pull us out of a recession. We've done that I don't know HOW many times... and it never will!!!
Republicans represent the biggest of big businesses; the oil industry, the defense corporations, the international construction companies, like Halliburton, who get billion dollar government contracts, billion dollar orders for fighter planes, billions of dollars in subsidies for building airports, shipping docks, etc....
The people who own stocks in those companies are the ones who own everything. When the economy slows down, small companies without enough capital suffer. They can't keep going in times of recession; so those big conglomerates represented by Bush buy them up!!!
When the economy is slowed down like that by a downturn in the business cycle, the republicans don't do things that will stimulate the economy. They like it slow, so their constituents can buy up even more control of the marketplace. They buy tv and radio stations, computer companies, anything that's not nailed down.
Bush gives them capital to reinvest by so called "tax cuts" so they can do this!!!
He claims to be "stimulating the economy"... but in truth, all that money the rich folks get won't be used to buy things. It will be reinvested and used for buyouts. When big companies either swallow up or liquidate little ones, what happens?
Competition disappears, giving big companies monopoly control. There are layoffs. The market becomes smaller and prices go up. The dollar becomes weak because of the large proportion of national debt to gross domestic product, which makes our labor cheaper internationally, but also makes it so overseas goods become very expensive to Americans.
The only time a tax cut lowers taxes is when it stimulates spending. Clinton did this by giving 91% of his tax cut to income earners below the top 25% and above the bottom 20%. This made it so the money was spent to buy durable goods; not to reinvest or pay off old debt.
When we buy new durable goods (TV, Car, Hot Tub, whatever), the money employs a salesperson. A portion of that goes to manufacturing personnel and the owners of the companies who sell and manufacture. THEY turn around and spend the money to buy things for THEMselves starting the whole process over again.
Every time this money changes hands, it's taxed; thus creating tax revenues WITHOUT raising the tax percentage. This is called "the velocity of money". This will actually LOWER taxes by paying interest on the national debt, as Clinton did. If we kept doing it, this would lower our total interest on tax as a line item in the yearly budget and lower all taxes.
This is what would have made Kerry's plans affordable... but when you look at Bush and what he's doing, they don't appear that way. This is why....
Bush is ripping us off. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 4:20:31 PM | Varus: you're getting dumb again..
Carter's inflation wasn't nearly as bad as Nixon's gas lines and HIS unemployment that came before it.
Under Carter, I worked.
Under Nixon and Ford between 1974 and 1975, I couldn't get a job... unemployment was through the roof. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 4:22:10 PM | I don't know about a national sales tax... we've never had it.
I wonder if this is a real thing or just something you're coming up with because republicans taxes are proven to be so dumb and you're trying to change the subject? | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 1/4/2005 4:23:32 PM | as for Clinton being "business friendly", what the hell do you call NAFTA?
that's really a STUPID thing to say... | |
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