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Posted: 12/21/2005 9:10:13 PM | | FireFly was great, only to short lived, in fact I had to buy the DVD set to get a full picture of what was going off. Of course it then appears on Space channel. I had no idea Serenity was an off shoot of the series, I will have to rent that.. | |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 11:55:39 PM |
FireFly was great, only to short lived, in fact I had to buy the DVD set to get a full picture of what was going off. Of course it then appears on Space channel. I had no idea Serenity was an off shoot of the series, I will have to rent that..
Ah Joss Whdeon... he does work wonders. Almost every one of his series I was talked into watching by a friend (the same one).... and I thought the premise sounded utterly lame.... and I then became hooked. | |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 11:57:40 PM | | Its probably that hooker named Serenity that did it, or was that the name of the ship?? | |
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Posted: 12/22/2005 2:00:34 PM | On the Firefly subject, since it is a space related series and (from my understanding) the name of the ship, I would gravitate towards it.
But who can tell what a show is about by only watching commercials or just one episode? | |
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Posted: 12/22/2005 3:54:26 PM | | Serenity is the name of the ship. | |
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Posted: 12/22/2005 11:24:50 PM | | I had a discussion with another Christian tonight. He thought that the Narnia movie was good and visually wonderful but thought that using it as a Christian story would confuse children. "Why have a Lion he asked, when you can show portray the real story?" Now this is a person who loves fantasy and science fiction but I didn't even bring up the fact that Lewis never intended it as a story to push his Christian views though they became part of the story. I merely told him that knowing Aslan has helped me to love Jesus more. He could not argue with that. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 12:06:17 PM | ^^^^
My response would have been that the bible is full of parables, this is just one more that can be used. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 9:03:38 PM | | I am not so sure that Lewis intended it as a Parable. We were discussing Narnia on another thread sometime back when I mentioned that Aslan was Jesus. Someone, I think it was Bright1 replied that he thought "Aslan was Aslan". After thinking about this some more, I tend to agree with that, and think Lewis would as well. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 9:19:44 PM | | Yes and no. Both Lewis and Tolkien had issues with the term allegory being used to describe their works. They objected to the direct relationship of claiming "Gandalf is Jesus" or "Aslan is Jesus," but clearly there are intended vague parallels that Lewis readily admits to. I think Lewis preferred Parable to Allegory actually, as he felt allegory implied that concrete objects or characters represented a one to one correspondence with spiritual ideas, where as he saw parable as a more vague term. That Narnia encapsulates Christian ideas is irrefutable, but Lewis himself summed it up when he said that his intention was not to write Christian literature, but good literature (that's not a direct quote, but a paraphrase.) | |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 10:26:23 AM | | I could be wrong on this but wasn't Lewis interested in alternate realities? Lewis made a statement once to the effect that if there was life on other planets he thought that they might not have had the fall into sin that the earth did. His science fiction trilogy is based on that idea. | |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 11:26:22 AM | "I could be wrong on this but wasn't Lewis interested in alternate realities?"
I believe you are right. I seem to remember him saying something of this nature: That if other realities existed, perhaps Christ would appear as something natural to that reality, so he imagined a world of talking beasts with a lion as their saviour. There are many references in the chronicles where the children are afraid that they won't have Aslan in their world, and he says something to the effect of, I am there too, only in different form. He never comes right out and says it, but the allusions are obvious. "The Last Battle" is even the coming of the Anti-Aslan, and the end of Narnia. I mean, it doesn't get much more obvious than that. | |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 11:57:05 PM | That is what I have a hard time believing that Lewis did NOT mean the books as an allegory. From Aslan creating Narnia to being killed and rising again to the end of Narnia. It seems to reflect the Bible event for event.
Heard today that as of last Wednesday, Narnia had passed up King Kong at the box office. | |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:51:42 PM | | Yippie! I found my old Aslan poster that I bought in the mid-70s. It hung on my wall for years. It is a little worn but still looks great. | |
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Posted: 12/28/2005 6:43:13 PM |
Yippie! I found my old Aslan poster that I bought in the mid-70s. It hung on my wall for years. It is a little worn but still looks great.
Cool. I wish I had one. Is it from the animated movie, the brittish movie, or the brittish TV series? | |
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Posted: 12/28/2005 10:01:45 PM | | None of the above actually. It was a poster for the sake of being a poster of Aslan, authorized by the MacMillian Publishing Company. The only connection it has with anything is with the books themselves. It is a big graphic of a Lion with two little insets circles on either side of a lion roaring. The caption reads "The Dream has ended. This is the morning". | |
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Posted: 12/28/2005 10:28:55 PM | | That is really quite cool. Probably worth a pretty penny in mint condition given the current craze. I read that it passed up King Kong in the box office. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 7:14:44 PM | I havn't gone to see Narnia yet but I have seen the movie Shadowlands which tells the story of C.S. Lewis(I call him Jack because I consider him my friend)...any way it's about his friend Joy Gresham who became his wife...beautiful realistic true story. I also recommend 'Mere Christianity'...a christian lawyer gave it to my lawyer son to read...which tells you what kind of a book it is if a lawyer can be touched by it....sorry Perry(that's my son) Actually I shouldn't knock the concept of advocacy...isn't that what Jesus is for us...He is our advocate. I tried to get some C.S. Lewis books and the owner of the store said he was out because ther had been a 'run' on them ever since Narnia came out. There is a Narnia website...sorry don't know the address.  | |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 7:32:50 PM | "...the movie Shadowlands..."
-An excellent movie with a typically superlative performance by Anthony Hopkins. | |
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Posted: 1/25/2006 4:32:11 PM | I found a couple sites thru Google.
http://www.narniaresources.com/
http://www.thelionscall.com/
Wonder what other people will find. | |
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Posted: 1/25/2006 6:52:34 PM | | There was a great article on Lewis in the 12-12-05 issue of US News and World Report. The article stated that Lewis is revered by American Christians but his lifestyle, smoking a pipe, drinking beer at the pub, would be enough to cause suspicion about him if he were a member of an American congregation. I loved it. | |
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Posted: 1/25/2006 7:10:17 PM | ^^^
Not really true for all congregations. I would say at around a third of the churches I've been to there have been quite a few drinkers and smokers. One reverend even smoked. Nobody really cared about it too much.
There are some congregations that get their panties in a bunch over such things but I would be skeptical of any statement that it was the majority. | |
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Posted: 1/25/2006 11:38:34 PM | | Most of the Christians I know, and I do not attend strict conservative Churches, would not even think of entering a bar and having a brew. I am not promoting the practice, I just think it falls into the gray area. | |
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Posted: 1/25/2006 11:50:08 PM | I just saw the movie "Narnia", and it was well done. I have been a fan of Lewis for several years now, particularly his non-fiction writings-- that may be what separates me from many Lewis fans. I loved the film "Shadowlands", and his book "Surprised By Joy" really resonated with me.
The article stated that Lewis is revered by American Christians but his lifestyle, smoking a pipe, drinking beer at the pub, would be enough to cause suspicion about him if he were a member of an American congregation. I loved it.
I have no qualms with this. In fact, my family visited Lewis' pub, called The Eagle and Child (aka "The Bird and Baby"). I may have been biased, but it was my favorite of the pubs we visited.
They say that the proof is in the pudding, and as I get older I'm thinking that abstinence from a smoke, a drink, or a cuss word isn't really "the pudding" in the larger picture.
Cheers!  | |
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Posted: 1/26/2006 10:31:31 PM | | I have mentioned Donald Miller's book "Blue like Jazz" here several times. Miller has a gut honesty and does not mind listing his failings and vices in print, which has caused some to condemn him. One enlightened reviewer at Amazon said "Not sure if he is onto something or on something..". I mention this because Miller is not too different from Lewis in the way he conducts his life. He has become a controversial subject to those not of his generation. | |
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Posted: 2/7/2006 1:30:57 PM | | By the way, for anyone interested, Amazon has released the DVD for Narnia for preorder. Just a heads up. | |
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