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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/17/2009 6:50:24 PM | It is a real tragedy!!!!! Life goes on, and time heals everything. If everyone with a broken heart committed suicie there would not be a lot of us left. If you live long enough you are probabl going to have several broken hearts along the way.
There is somone for everyone, and you must hang in there to find your someone special.
You hurt way too many people committing suicide!!!! You are gone, and you leave them here to suffer. It is a very selfish, self centered act. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/18/2009 3:36:53 PM | But what is this victim stuff? I was born with diabitis so I am a victim? If I have the right mindset I don't need insulin?
Actually, it's not too far fetched to believe you might actually be able to do that as well under the right circumstances since some balding men have been proven to regrow hair by taking nothing but a placebo (in other words, their hair came back simply because they believed it was going to grow back even though they were not actually taking anything to chemically alter it), but that's another discussion for another day.
I mainly quoted this part to ask where it was that I said that. I was addressing depression and mental disorders in my post, not diabetes.
And that is the point I am trying to make here. MAKE the decision to fight and not give in.
I completely agree. This was the same point I was trying to make as well. Apparently, I was just wording it differently. But we seem to be on a similar page in terms of where we stand on this issue.
I'm sorry you view me as judgmental. I assure you as anyone who knows me in real life will attest, I am actually quite the opposite. In fact, most who know me would describe me as the least judgmental person they know.
I just see an unhealthy amount of softness in our society today that takes all the blame off of everybody for the positions they are in and ultimately encourages them to remain weak and helpless. People benefit more from standing up and taking control of their lives than they do from being coddled. People who feel that life is hopeless need to know that they are stronger than they realize, not that it's okay for them to feel worthless. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/19/2009 3:23:20 PM | I am fascinated by the many and varied responses to this most provocative question about suicide. However, I am a bit dismayed by the many people who have posted a common thought, that suicide is an easy way out.
I have a question to those who believe that this is so. How would you know that? How would you know that ending one's own life is taking an easy way out? I would think that ending your life by your own hands, is the ultimate act of bravery. Considering how terrified we all are of death, and the very subject brings fear and gloom to our soul, how can you make such a blanket statement, that it is an easy way out?
Their is no doubt that suicide leaves a lingering and permanent stain, on the lives and souls of friends and family. It is the ultimate provocative act of any ones life. But anyone who does this is not a coward! They have reached the end of their ropes and who is to say that the things that are looking to escape are temporary situations, as a few of the posters have suggested. Sometime life hands us circumstances in a regular, consistent and unrelenting fashion, that makes living an insurmountable endeavor.
Let's think about the people in our lives who are depressed and let's reach out to those and take them under our wing. Many times it is all that they need to counter that darkest of all human compulsions.
It is not too great a stretch of the imagination, that it could just as easily be you there pondering your place in the world and your options.  | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/20/2009 3:43:25 PM | | ^I suppose it depends on why the person is committing suicide. If it is merely to conquer fear of death/the unknown, I suppose you could view it as an act of bravery. But most people who commit suicide don't do it to get over fear of death or the unknown. They do it because they are cowering away from fixing, dealing with, or accepting life's problems. That is not conquering anything. That is aversion. Aversion is weakness. Thus suicide for any reason other than sheer morbid curiosity is the easy way out because it prevents you from having to deal with the things you most fear. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/20/2009 6:53:55 PM | | I've attempted it from being bitter...over just being unsuccessful in attracting women no matter how much I worked on myself. I'd work out, buy nice clothes....try to be more of an extrovert as opposed to being the quiet guy. In the end my opinion and advice is it's not worth it. I get down sometimes but really....it's not worth killing yourself over a broken heart or any feelings for that matter. In the end my advice is find something else to live for. If I never have a girlfriend in my life now I think i'll be alright. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/21/2009 9:22:17 AM | Please do not contemplate doing it. ..
A lot of us have broken hearts, we are still here. Suidicide affects the person's love ones for the rest of their lives...How about the poor soul who finds the body? That image will haunt them forever.
If you are down, seek help, talk to a Dr, priest, pastor.
Depression is a chemical dysfunction of the brain, there is help...get yourself to a hospital... go to e-r get admitted if you need it.
By the way it sounds noble for Shakespeare...but it never was the answer, nor it will be. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/21/2009 4:41:50 PM | Most probably every one who has had there heart broken has thought about it , thankfully 99% never do anymore than that , yes i have thought about it , after breaking up with the woman i loved , and now i dont c her or her 2 boys and thats heart breaking , and in on eway i would love to do it as my way of saying its yur fault and you have live with it ,
but then its the people who are your family and friends who really suffer so that stops u , but i would never say its the easy way out ! | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/21/2009 8:27:30 PM | | If you are out to end the pain. Then you just might be able to end your pain. But my pain and my kids pain is still very real. It hurts every time I think about it. Now my kids no longer have a mom. When she took her life her sister got the life insurence money and moved away. So not only did my kids loss a mom they lost what was left of there moms family. I can't help but to feel angry and hurt. We want to blaim others for this. But if a person ends their life over a broken heart it's because they lost hope and fell into what I think is the shadows of life. I tried to get my ex wife into a hospital. She would go in and then check herself out. I just pray that others can find hope and a way out. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/22/2009 11:41:00 AM | | You should be arrested,charged and jailed for your irresponsible and non-humanitarian advice.Never heard anything so stupid.For God sake grow up and stop being so out of touch with what life is all about. We can all do without life's midgets like you with those nutter words | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/23/2009 4:13:10 PM | | WHAT IF the person has no control over ther own thoughts and can not tell that they are in danger. But the people around him are so tired of his actions, that you just dont see it coming{same old same old}.They do it because they are cowering away from fixing, dealing with, or accepting life's problems. That is not conquering anything, in a mentally ill mind you think that this is possible, by the time a person has decieted to kill them sevles THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL........ | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/23/2009 8:54:59 PM | it's terrible to think that those who have succumbed to suicide sunk to a level where they felt there was no other way out of what ever it is they're experiencing, no one understands or no one loves them....
it leaves those who were close to the victim a sense of hopelessness - not knowing, not seeing the signs and not being there or understanding enough...
there are two victims of suicide
the one who committed the act
the loved ones who've been commited to a life of 'why' | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/23/2009 9:29:18 PM | Suicide is a topic about which information is readily available. It may have to remain a mystery what exactly the person was thinking, but generally suicide is understood to be from depression or despair. I think the more common reaction is guilt and anger. The guilt comes from feeling that if only you had paid attention, done more, whatever, as if your actions could have stopped the decision made by an anguished mind. The anger probably comes from the guilt, and from having to face an example of how sometimes a person can think themselves right into self-destruction, which is unsettling and especially if you previously knew the person as an example to emulate or admire. The question why can be answered, and does not necessarily haunt the rest of one's life.
I see plenty of both encouragement and discouragement handed out online, so even within this smaller domain you have examples of the different ways people are treated when they ask for help or complain of misery. You have some people offering help, while others take aim and deliver a good kick. Such is the nature of society. People react differently.
A person who is broken-hearted and thinking of suicide is despairing of their future and grieving the loss of their relationship. The emotional anguish finds expression as dark thoughts. That person could use some understanding, compassion, kindness and encouragement, counsel, etc. They need help. Help works, by the way. Just like other kinds of help do. You can fix a flat tire and you can mend a broken heart. My guess is that although the anguish of a broken heart lends itself easily to suicidal thoughts, it would take a previously existing condition of depression for those thoughts to continue. I think there would have to be some basis for recognizing the heartbreak as an excuse for a suicide that had already been considered for other reasons, earlier.
What I think of a person committing suicide over a broken heart is that it is one of the tragic endings people make for themselves in this world of sometimes hidden choices. I think it happens when someone loses sight of their potential to do some good by keeping on. They don't see or don't care that tomorrow or next week or next year they could be doing some good for somebody else, and that being dead later is not only an option but inevitable. I can't presume to understand the decision. I won't condemn anyone who names the time and manner of their own death. It just seems like a stunning failure of imagination to suppose that the world is really as bleak and painful as it can feel in moments of despair, especially when the person has known a love so great that by losing it they could feel so badly. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/24/2009 12:25:00 AM | ok...
in the year 2000 my youngest loved son (18) committed suicide over broken heart!!!
and he did exactly what you describe here...«Real suiciders don't manipulate people with idle threats. One day they are just gone without a warning.»
no warning, no complaining, no bragging about it
in his brand new car honda s.e. he axphisiated himself...in our garage..
US, the mother, and the father found him too late..he was gone!
i cannot tell you enough or describe the pain it causes our family including his older only brother(whom was like a twin to him)..
we had to sell the house, move away, and within five years, divorced of a solid mariage from 29 years ( my ex started gambling to forget the pain and horror...)
life has never been the same since...
but i do think , my son was extremely brave..and knew exactly what he was doing...
and I want to believe it was his destiny... cause so many others miss when they try..
so i want to believe his time had come to an end..
nevertheles i encourage anyone who think of doing this, to cry for help...
he's also gone for eternity...and cannot ever know the joy of being a parent etc...
just to ask the people that juge suicider as coward to swollow their jugement...
it could happen in their close family or friend...no one knows..
i,d like to add, that when i put his ashes in the ocean (Florida state) a cloud rised alone in the sky, and took the shape of an angel...surrounded by beautiful gold light...
I have the pictures to prove it..i also heard in my soul his voice telling me «mom i'm in the light, and i've found eternal love, please go on living, i'm happy)...
so if it can heel some family wondering where their loved one are gone??? i had my answer: not in hell, not burning, but (dans la lumière, e t l'Amour infini)
Maman éplorée, mais confiante...marylou63 | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/24/2009 12:28:35 AM | my youngest son 18 years of age, commited suicide in year 2000...
please read this to understand that your mother is definitively not in hell...
she probably lived hell on this earth...
i'm very soory for you...but you are grown up now..and pray her instead of thinking she's burning in hell..she' s ther for you..I'm sure..and forgive her...
i,d like to add, that when i put his ashes in the ocean (Florida state) a cloud rised alone in the sky, and took the shape of an angel...surrounded by beautiful gold light...
I have the pictures to prove it..i also heard in my soul his voice telling me «mom i'm in the light, and i've found eternal love, please go on living, i'm happy)...
so if it can heel some family wondering where their loved one are gone??? i had my answer: not in hell, not burning, but (dans la lumière, e t l'Amour infini)
Maman éplorée, mais confiante...marylou63 | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/24/2009 12:33:30 AM | | A permanent solution to a temporary problem. As kids in the play ground, we find our first "forever" loves, and as adults we reflect on these loves with a chuckle, because we understand that there is the other side, to even, our one true love. The greatest pain is often a response to our greatest pleasures, one sleeps as the other dances. We do get to the other side. Some of us even love again. Trusting that it passes is the key, inevitably trusting that God is with us, or angels, or whatever you prefer. Just know you're not alone. And the pain subsides. Nothing is forever, good or bad. There is another side to everything. Change is constant and guaranteed. That's why even great relationships take effort and commitment to protect a good thing, because of the constant change. "Nothing" is forever. Good, bad or indifferent. This too shall pass. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/28/2009 3:54:46 PM | | Dear Angel756: Now that you've shown your piousness, tell me something -- have you ever felt such severe emotional pain that it became physical and you hurt all over? I seriously doubt it, my dear. AND Furthermore, DO NOT DARE PUT YOURSELF IN GOD'S PLACE. That comes mighty close to blasphemy, dear girl. YOU are no angel. Get that through your haughty head. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 3/28/2009 4:07:37 PM | | MsDixie44: I don't think you get it, dear. It's not as cut-and-dry as a simple broken heart; it's pain beyond excruciating, so devastating that a person wants the pain to stop and will do anything to make that happen. It's not about revenge (revenge tactics rarely end in actual death, because that person wants to stick around to see if it worked). It's not about being inconsiderate of others (how can they consider others when their own pain blurs all reality). It's about real, painful suffering. I have a suggestion: try volunteering at a mental rehab/mental facility for a few months and get to know all those suffering people in there. If you have a heart at all, it will break for those patients. Then you MIGHT get a tiny notion of what it's like, Miss Know-It-All. | |
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