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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 8/15/2009 3:51:14 AM | Mirabell13 and LastPariah seem to have got a good grasp of things.
I can't stand people who say those who commit suicide are being selfish. Clearly the person who is prepared to do such a drastic act is in tremendous pain and to dismiss that shows a lack of empathy that amazes me. Maybe those who have no sympathy have never experienced such a level of pain, or fail to see how easy it to believe there is no hope of ever being without that pain. If your life experiences are only ones of the people you love leaving you, it is not much of a stretch to imagine that is all that it will ever be. Perhaps for some of you it is easy to find a new partner, but for others it may have been the only time they have found love in their whole life. Maybe they don't fit society's ideals of beauty, or are no longer young, are not outgoing, or whatever, and don't figure the chances of it happening again are too great.
The least all those of you more successful people could do is show a little empathy for the suffering of others rather than dismissing them as 'selfish' or 'wimps', and be grateful that you have never felt so low. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 8/16/2009 4:09:32 AM | yes it was very well put applauds mizanthrope --thank you
my up date on this as you may or may not know my girlfriend of 5 months take her life 0n 28,2009....we know each other off and on for a year and started to date 5 months..I know she was having a problem getting over a guy she meet on a dating site over a year ago that he turn out to be married...The last two weeks for me has been hard .I have been blaming myself for not being more understading ..just recently I got the last letters ,and living with depression and abuse for over 30 years..the meds,were not working ,she wanted the pain and thoughts to stop...suicide was her answer.
suicide is not a wimpy way..we all deal with emotionly pain differently some are stronger then other | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 8/17/2009 1:08:27 PM | If your that weak, and feel that suicide is the only way out I have some advice.
Remember, go down the road and not across the street.
If you think your going to pull a George Sodini, and "An hero" with bonus points of taking random people or your ex out, atleast have the common courtesy to talk to a friend before doing so.
If you do "An hero" yourself make sure you do it to where the mess is minimal. Remember someone has to clean up your fat worthless @ss.
On a seriously note, I know how bad a break up can be. last August (20th) was in fact when I broke up with my ex. I have been single for a year to lick my wounds. Time will heal the pain you are feeling. The emotional pain will get better, Death does not. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/17/2009 7:29:27 PM | | suicide is a false solution and a false theft. What I mean by that is that our life does not belong only to us, it also belongs to our ancestors and our family, so it is not just our decision rightly to take it, and if one believes in God, thats another place to be accountable as well | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/17/2009 7:53:11 PM | | In my opinion, a broken heart is one of the most painful things that can happen to a person. I don't see them as particularly weak if they chose to end their life. It is their life to end. Myself, I would not commit suicide, no matter how much pain I was in, purely because of the hurt I would cause my family and friends. I would endure the pain alone, and not inflict others with my suffering. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/18/2009 1:59:01 AM | | I think it's a much more complex issue than most care to realize. It's not an issue of being weak or being mislead by your emotions... I think its a question of exhaustion. I have thought about suicide in passing I suppose. The sort of thing where you're standing at the edge of a skyscraper looking over the edge and wondering to yourself what it might be like... what people would say at your funeral... if your ex who said she hated you would be at all grief stricken... not suicidal contemplation with any intent... just sort of an amusing curiosity. It's a different animal entirely to think with the intent to act. I can't even begin to fathom that type of dispair. Obviously I would hope that no person would ever take their own life over a lost love (or anything else for that matter) but I can in no way even begin to understand the mindset... so I have no place to judge. I have a friend who attempted to hang himself after a breakup... Im certainly gla he failed... but I cant imagine the misery. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/18/2009 2:34:11 AM | | There comes a time in every man's life when situations spiral out of control and he finds his back against a wall. Maybe somebody stole his iPod. Maybe he just killed his wife and kids. Maybe he looked in the mirror and saw a ****tard. Maybe you can't live with the fact that you're a washed-up actor who's addicted to sex with Thai ladyboys. Whatever the reason, you can either get up and face the music, or you can tell the world and whatever deity you believe in to **** off. In the latter case, pull out your list of final solutions and place a check in the suicide box, because tonight, you dine in hell. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/18/2009 5:13:45 AM | I am a survivor of suicide as my Aunt took her own life a little over 2 years ago.
My mother and I were left to not only plan her funeral, but to deal with her estate and believe me, it was NOT fun. It was the most difficult situation I had ever been in.
The shock, disbelieve, and the fog you are in after somone you love and care about does something like that are unbelievable. I couldn't figure out how someone so talented, educated, and accomplished could do something like that.
After all, she had a fantastic life: - she traveled and quite literally lived all over the globe, made good money, she had a Master's Degree, was a retired Lt. Colonel in the Army Reserves, had a score of good wonderful friends.
On the outside, all looked great for her. On the inside, as I found out after she died, she had a pretty serious health problem - kept from me, and only my Uncle and Mom knew about it. But I noticed during the last 10 years, she became more and more paranoid and insecure, and extememly self-focused. She would say THE most off the wall things.....I thought she was mentally unstable and told my Mom she needed help. Now I know it was thedisease and the meds talking.
I can't imagine the misery and hurt she was in. After coming across some journals and documents in the house, did I have some semblance, (but not much) of understanding. Now I know some of these things she kept from me, I wish I had known and wish I could have done something for her.
Suicide is a very very selfish act. Those who are left behind, like my mother and myself are left to wonder what we could have done to prevent it and why. The answers are all the same: - nonexistent. And some days the shock, anger, and hurt feelings are more pronounced than others.
I know for a fact that my mother and I will never be the same. Never. My aunt never once thought what it would do to the people around her. She just went off and did it. - She didn't pay the consequences, but we sure did - and still do.
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/18/2009 7:11:23 AM | People who commit suicide are not being selfish. They have gone insane and are not responsible for their actions. They are so depressed they can't stand the pain any more and want life to end since it is absolutely unbearable for them.
And there is often the hope that someone they love who does not respond with love in return as they want it will feel bad about it. But again, this is insanity. To take one's own life is always, unless it is rational because of physical suffering such as assisted suicide, the act of the insane.
Life becomes one agonizing, unbearable day after the next, with no purpose except more emotional pain. To live with unrelenting misery is hell on earth.
Depression is one of the top ten killers. Don't blame these victims of mental illness as if they were rational people because they definitely were not. They shouldn't be called selfish. They were too far gone to be selfish. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/18/2009 2:20:26 PM | Suicide has two motivations
1. It is a big F**k you to the people you are leaving behind.
Unexpressed and/or passive aggressive anger.
2. It is a way out of the pain.
Situational depression.
Broken hearts mend.
See a good therapist. No one is worth dieing over. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/18/2009 5:25:47 PM | | It's not worth it!! Life is too precious. Your life is more important than the the person. There have been times when I felt like the world was coming to an end and then I saw someone else. We will continue to get our heats broken or our feelings hurt until we no longer exist on this Earth. Talk with someone that you trust about the situation. One thing for sure, TRUE LOVE doesn't hurt and if they left you to be with soemone else, it didn't jsut happen over night. They was seeing them the whole time. Life goes on and there will be plenty more fish in the sea. Don't do anything to hurm yourself or anyone lese because it's not worth it. TRUST ME! | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/26/2009 8:27:53 AM | | I'm not in a position to pass judgement over those who have taken there own lives after a relationship has ended. To take your own life you must be seriously ill and I have experience of suicide in my own family and I can tell you all it leaves behind is a trail of utter devastation and turmoil that never really goes away - so many questions left unanswered. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/26/2009 4:47:56 PM |
I can't stand people who say those who commit suicide are being selfish. Clearly the person who is prepared to do such a drastic act is in tremendous pain and to dismiss that shows a lack of empathy that amazes me. Maybe those who have no sympathy have never experienced such a level of pain, or fail to see how easy it to believe there is no hope of ever being without that pain. If your life experiences are only ones of the people you love leaving you, it is not much of a stretch to imagine that is all that it will ever be. Perhaps for some of you it is easy to find a new partner, but for others it may have been the only time they have found love in their whole life. Maybe they don't fit society's ideals of beauty, or are no longer young, are not outgoing, or whatever, and don't figure the chances of it happening again are too great.
The least all those of you more successful people could do is show a little empathy for the suffering of others rather than dismissing them as 'selfish' or 'wimps', and be grateful that you have never felt so low.
Thank you. I was reading this and felt seriously sick to my stomach at some of the ignorance posted here. Until you are faced with a loved one who has done this, you are FUKING CLUELESS. And those of you who feel it's selfish, you're right, selfish of you to be so self-absorbed and feel it's in some way "weakness." Not many suicides succeed that are announced. Suicides that succeed are NOT generally attention seeking (or they would be attempts, not successes.) PFT.  | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/26/2009 5:42:09 PM |
Until you are faced with a loved one who has done this, you are FUKING CLUELESS.
Thank you.
NO one knows the pain. I had a cousin who called me and left a message
on our answering machine before it happened. I will never forget it.
He told me he loved me - Vivie va voom I love you - he always called me that.
I remember the night it happened. I remember how they kept him alive so
he could donate his organs. I remember the towel rapped around his head
and I remember how they told us not to touch it.
I remember how he looked in his cowboy hat. I remember how his birth mother
found him just a month before - and now was standing next to me at his casket.
I remember how I told her - " He was ours. He belonged to us. He will always
belong to us" .
I remember the pain in her eyes for not ever knowing her son and what a
great person with the biggest most kindest heart.
I remember how that heart was broken.
I remember why he did it.
I still dont understand but I know his pain was just too great that even all of
our love could not save him.
Never judge - you dont know the pain these people are living. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/26/2009 7:24:58 PM | I can not imagine the level of pain a person that commits suicide must be in. My heart breaks to think that anyone feels that hopeless and lonely. The only thing I can do is to hope that those poor tortured souls have found peace. Now the really hard part is trying to find the right words and actions to comfort those left behind. I can not even imagine the pain that they must be feeling in the depths of their soul.
To all of you that are going through this or have, I wish you peace and I hope you all have someone to comfort you and know you are loved. | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/26/2009 7:47:17 PM | Depression is a disease. When a person sinks to this level, they see no other way out, this is a means to end their pain (in their mind). I knew someone who took his own life. No one knew his level of pain, not even his best friend. I don't judge what he did, but I do feel he had so much to live for and so much more yet to experience....that is what is so hard for those he left behind.
If you are in so much pain that you don't feel you can go on, seek help. Taking your own life because of someone else, is not worth it, NO ONE is worth that. But YOU ARE, which is why it is best to talk to someone and get help.......... | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/26/2009 9:15:26 PM | I am a survivor of suicide too. Many times over. I'm not going to get into details except that I was living in Alaska and my bestfriend was in Oklahoma. I talked to him not 30 minutes before he shot himself. That is just one instance.
I live with survivors guilt four fold. I have seen suicide to irreprable (sp?) damage that has been done to children. Would you like your 3, 4 & 10 year old to see you hanging from the garage ceiling? That is what my cousin's children had to witness. That was cruelty.
My cousin asked me to go to the hospital to see if her husband was okay. I had to tell her he was dead and watch her fall to pieces. I have spent years picking up the pieces.
Yeah, suicide may be a way out, but it sure as hell leaves too much damage behind.
Jessica Fletcher | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/27/2009 11:04:17 AM | Suicide is not selfish, it is the release from unbeable pain that the person cannot believe will ever end. It is an answer to what seems an endless existence that simply cannot be tolerated by some of the sweetest souls, those with the most giving hearts and those who are most sensitive. Do not pass judgment unless you personally have experienced that pain and simply cannot believe it will ever end. There can be many factors that play into the decision that not another soul knows about.
I speak from experience of nearly losing the most important person in my life and of losing two I dearly loved. Be a bit more giving and loving and forgiving of those among us who are sensitive souls... | |
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| What do you think of a peron committing suicide over a broken heart??
Posted: 9/27/2009 3:06:53 PM | Strictly speaking if you take a realists viewpoint then:
1. Suicide is definitely a way out, but out of what? If you're dead then you won't even know you were in pain and likely have no chance to come out of it.
2. Suicide is not a cowards way out, when you're suicidal the corridor of life becomes a narrow hallway and you see only one thing at the other end, your demise. The lack of options makes you feel trapped and lost, as if no end will come so better just to do it sooner than wait.
3. Suicidal thoughts are probably not as uncommon as we think, it's just most people have social support and other means to SNAP out of that state faster than most so it doesn't really become an issue. It's like anything if you have enough TIME to think about it then that's all you WILL think about!
That's some advice of mine, also Saint Johns Wart does nothing IMO for depression :p | |
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