| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/15/2005 7:24:52 PM | So what good reason would there be to not like a strong woman? Please let me know when you have the answer to that.
And i beg to differ- strong is great quality for a guy to have. What woman doesn't want a man who is confident and knows what he wants? A man who knows his place and it doesn't necessarily have to be up our butt all the time. | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/15/2005 7:33:26 PM | a woman with strength cannot be molded, and i honestly believe that many men are in denial of being attracted to women like that. I have also been noticing the roles reversing lately. | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/15/2005 7:40:06 PM | | I found men value a strong woman at first but the deeper you get into a relationship the more they try to gain some kind of control or power... I like space and I like my time apart most men think thats great at first but later... I think at my age any relationship would need alot of space to grow and progress, most men I've met weren't in the mood to let me grow, they were just looking for a complacent nice girl that cooks. Deeva seems strong to me, in most of her posts she seems to have alot of conviction in what she says, this topic aint played out if we run across it continually. You go Dee. | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/15/2005 7:46:19 PM | I think most men have low esteem. Especially when it comes to relationships. Why else would they get mad and jealous when she talks to other men, says "he's cute", goes out with the gals, etc. Bambi is right, strong women can't be molded. Their self-assurance is what attracts most men to them, but when it can't be broken the weak men leave.
But on the flip side...a strong woman is what I am attracted to. Weak women bore me. There aren't many out there. If there is a role reversal happening, it better hurry before I loose all my hair. | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/15/2005 7:56:21 PM | | There's nothing wrong with women have character strenght or strength in general, . it's the the insecure men who have issues with women being more dominate than they are | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/15/2005 8:20:29 PM | Gentleman, why such serious sucking up?
Mako, if you're alluding to "self" esteem I'm going to argue it is more a question of low expectation.
Bambi 75, I do want a woman that has it all together. I was hoping I might get some insight here on how to better determine the difference between strength and the more self serving side of assertiveness. Perhaps in the end the human within us fears a strong woman can't help but be a b*i*t*c*h in the end. Judging character will never be an exacting science, and some guys are unwilling to take the chance.
Benevolent T, you've got to think about what it means to be a 22 year old "man." At that age most guys are consumed with fulfilling the promise of their sexual prime. It is natural for a guy to want consistent access to satisfaction. If the space of which you speak is a sexual one I can see how the boys might get frustrated. Just one man's opinion.  | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/15/2005 8:43:34 PM |
Bambi 75, I do want a woman that has it all together. I was hoping I might get some insight here on how to better determine the difference between strength and the more self serving side of assertiveness. Perhaps in the end the human within us fears a strong woman can't help but be a b*i*t*c*h in the end
Being a plain out B*tch is an individual difference that influences self-perception and the tendency to make self-serving attributions. Basically you are speaking of a narcissistic attitude. Narcissists can be assertive, socially poised, confident, charming and helpful. It's more less your perception of someone , not the assessment of themselves. | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 1:25:25 AM | | Actually it was more-so personal space in terms of living, going out with my friends and me time. I've never dated a 22 year old man, geez. | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 2:07:29 AM | | It's all a matter of preference really. Some people prefer a partner who is their equal educationally and financially. Some people don't care. I once met a man who said "If a woman is more successful than me, that just tells me she put more effort into creating her life, and maybe I need to step up my game."~~~Now that's the right attitude. | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 2:18:45 AM | I have to say I happen to emotionally strong women.... Yep, yep, I do...
I need someone to debate with, Lol.
Tayven, | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 2:42:05 AM | Nice! Oh and don't forget...you also enjoy being in the driver's seat!
I believe what I believe and stand behind those beliefs no matter what! You have to believe in something, or you'll fall for anything...right? | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 2:53:16 AM | Yeah Juliette... But you let that man get away? Strength of character is always my preference... Know what you want, set a goal for it, and get it done! | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 7:56:00 AM | Thank you! I just do not have time to waste on players... My goal is clear, looking for a match that fits but shopping around has been quite fun along the way. Woman who knows what she wants and likes and refuses to settle for less  | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 8:00:02 AM | | I'm not intimidated at all. Give me a woman who doesn't need me, but wants me. I love independent, strong, got-a-mind women. Confidence is sexy as hell. | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 8:05:09 AM | ...sensual, I have taken care of my needs since I was about 16 and lived basically on my own since 17.... No my wants are totally a different subject. Have to say love the Zorro look, Dress you up and dress you down, hmmmm. Long lingering head to toe look... | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 8:10:23 AM |
I have noticed, women who consider themselves strong are only looking for another excuse for being single or unpopular at work.
hogwash.
most strong-willed women are single cuz men dont' WANT a strong-willed woman. and in the workplace - woman are horrible to one another. a competent, strong-willed woman is belittled and demeaned by her peers. she is a threat.
and to you who said that this is a myth...that men aren't REALLY intimidated by strong women...
try living it sometime.
yes, this topic has been done several times, but it still bears repeating. it's a tried and true fact - strong-willed women get tired of men who want them to be guided, led, coddled...on one hand. and other men who call them ice-****es cuz they can balance their own checkbook and do their own home improvement.
strength of chracter should be lauded...not a cause for belittlement.
jaz - not single, and popular at work. I found the right man and the right job. :) | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 8:11:43 AM |
Perhaps assertiveness in the work place aside, being strong doesn't mean being a B*i*t*c*h anywhere. I think a lot of woman confuse the two. Being a **** is not being intimidating it's simply being a ****. I think that some women would like to think they are being intimidating but they're really not. It's just justification for being a ****. I know some men are intimidated if the woman makes more money or has a better job or whatever. That's just a weak man that has a lot of insecurities. I don't think a man that is comfortable in his own skin would be bothered by this. Just my opinion. Vixen | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 8:21:25 AM | Cheers Vixen- missed your valued opinions! Assertive is not being a bit**! Need a man not intimidated, but quite able to keep up....Work hard, Play harder  Oops, Thanks Sensual... | |
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| Intimidation and Strong Women Posted: 12/16/2005 9:04:53 AM | Assertiveness and strong to me mean, sometimes having to be a B*tch. I am not only a member, I am the President. Especially, when someone is pressuring me to do something they want me to do. Absolutely, if it is the perspective you wish to take. I will not take crap. Not just yours.... not anyone else's. I would think a strong man would like that.
[That's just a weak man that has a lot of insecurities.]
Bravo for your opinion. | |
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