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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/28/2005 12:46:06 PM | | it's not sinful for men to have long hair. where did u hear that one? | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/28/2005 2:25:33 PM | | Other than what Paul says in 1Cor ch11 (which I don't fully understand), I don't see any Scriptural basis to condemn a man for having long hair. But Scripture is quite clear in many passages about keeping the genders distinct. A man being a man, and a woman being a woman. About men not being like women, etc. But, just as men's and women's clothing are different, their hair is also going to be different.I would say that if your a man and are a crossdresser seeking to look like a woman growing long hair . That would be wrong .just as say a lesbian woman cutting her hair to look manly. | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/28/2005 3:51:37 PM | Having grown up Pentacostal christian, I can say that I've been to many many churches, and they severely condemned long hair on a man. So is it a sin from the christian perspective? I would say yes. I am not a christian, and love long hair on men. Now, if it is a sin, then I guess that makes Jesus a sinner too right? | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/28/2005 5:22:35 PM | | So where does it say that Jesus had long hair. | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/28/2005 5:28:59 PM | THE BIBLE SAYS NOTHING ABOUT JESUS HAVING LONG HAIR.
The paintings of Christ are simply artists' conceptions and have no Scriptural authorization. At least one historian of His day described Him as being a tall man with chestnut-colored hair, parted in the middle, with short hair which turned up at the end. In the book, THE MODERN STUDENT'S LIFE OF CHRIST by Irving Vollmer, published by Fleming H. Revell, the author says, "Archeologists object to the conventional pictures of Christ because they are not true to history." A German painter, L. Fahrenkrog, says, "Christ certainly never wore a beard, and His hair was beyond a doubt a closely cut. For this we have historical proof." The oldest representations going back to the first Christian centuries and found chiefly in the catacombs of Rome all pictured Him without a beard. All the pictures of Christ down to the beginning of the first century and even later are of this kind. Students of the first century and of Roman history are aware of the fact that the time of Christ was characterized by short hair for men. This author has seen many coins and statues which bear the likenesses of emperors who reigned during and after the time of Christ. Such likenesses reveal that the Ceasars and other rulers and emperors had short hair, and of course, the subjects followed the example set by the emperor. The plain simple truth is that during the life of Christ, short hair was the acceptable style. That Jesus wore the conventional style of His day is proved by the fact that Judas had to kiss Him to point Him out to the soldiers. Had Jesus been somewhat different, as a long-haired freak, Judas could have simply told the soldiers that Jesus was the One with the long hair. This, of course, is not true, as Judas had to place a kiss on Him in order to identify Him. JESUS WAS NOT A NAZARITE. Since it is generally believed that a Nazarite has to let his hair grow long, and since Jesus was from Nazareth, there are many who mistakenly identify Him as a Nazarite. There is no such Scriptural evidence. Jesus was a "Nazarene" because He was from Nazareth, but He was not a "Nazarite," and He did not take the Nazarite vow. A Nazarite could not eat grapes or drink grape juice or eat anything made of the vine.
Numbers 6:2-4 says, "Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When a man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the Lord: He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink of no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried. All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk."
Hence, our Lord could not have been a Nazarite. Observe the last Passover in Luke 22: 14-18, "And when the hour was come, He sat down, and the twelve apostles with Him. And He said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. And He took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: For I say unto you I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come." The Passover was characterized by the fruit of the vine, and as a Nazarite our Lord would not have been allowed to partake of the Passover.
He also partook of the fruit of the vine when he instituted the Lord's Supper. Luke 22:19, 20 says, "And He took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is My body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of Me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in My blood, which is shed for you."
Likewise a Nazarite could not touch a dead body. Numbers 6:6, "All the days, that he separateth himself unto the Lord he shall come at no dead body." When our Lord raised the daughter of Jairus in Mark 5:41, the Bible says, "And He took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise." Then He also touched the bier which contained a dead man's body in Luke 7:12-15. "Now when He came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow, and much people of the city was with her. And when the Lord saw her, He had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not, And He came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still. And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And He delivered him to his mother."
Since the Nazarite could not touch the fruit of the vine or touch a dead body, and since our Lord did both, we must arrive at the definite conclusion that He was not a Nazarite.
The Nazarite vow was taken for only a short period of time. The Bible says it was just for "days." In Numbers 6: 5,6, and 13 we read, "All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/28/2005 6:02:32 PM | "well it would seem that Christians frown on a man having long hair as a sin."
Only judgemental, ignorant, and foolish christians perhaps. Jesus had long hair...so is he frowned upon as well?
What a stupid thread. Only hypocrites would think such drivel...there are more important issues then hair--let me tell ya. | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/29/2005 8:09:40 AM | When i became a born again Christian I had hair down to my ass. Infact, i had long hair two years following. Never was i ever looked apon as being in sin . I have been to several baptist churches that have frowned on it though. but i have yet to find in the bible where it says that it is a sin to have long hair. I still pose the Question though. if anyone can tell me where in the bible it says that Jesus had long hair ? I keep seeing posts saying that he had long hair, but nobody will remark on how they came to that conclusion.
I eventually cut my hair . for several reasons
1. I found that one of the reasons i keeped long hair was because of me wanting to fit in the drug culture that i was in. 2. I was going through a bottle of shampoo a week 3. My bath tub was costantlly getting pluged up with hair,and i was getting tired of unplugging it . 4. Have you ever tried wearing a hard hat with a ponytail? | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/29/2005 5:28:44 PM | Well, if that's true, then I've loved a few sinners in my time and am here to confess it | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/29/2005 8:38:42 PM | Informative post Davie... I always thought that Jesus had long hair because it was taught that in those days everyone had long hair...emphasized by the samson story. I cannot prove jesus had long hair. | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/30/2005 10:06:25 AM | | creepy, can anyone prove that Jesus had short hair? | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 12/30/2005 12:09:58 PM | | Good point sky, That fact is. That although there are things pointing to the idea that he had short hair. There still is no concreate evidence to really know without a dought one way or the other. | |
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| Men with long hair Posted: 1/1/2006 10:13:37 PM | This thread is silly and useless. There is nothing wrong with long hair, short hair or no hair. Hair DOESN"T matter. I think it is stupid for people to judge others on how they have their hair or if they have hair at all, THAT IS A SIN, TO JUDGE THEM FOR THAT!
That goes for all of us who judge peole on these basis, lets face it it's a sin. | |
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