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Posted: 1/9/2006 8:40:22 PM |
In ancient times, chewing the cud was applied to any animal that chewed their food for a long time. Hares do that.
What evidence do you have for this? | |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 8:45:25 PM |
For that matter, why is so much of the NT made up of writings by the one Apostle who never actually met the man, and may have had one experience with him while traveling?
Actually there's very broad agreement in the scholarly community that Paul didn't write most of the books attributed to him. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 8:46:52 PM | Count..here is quite a good site on textual stuff :-
http://www.cob-net.org/compare.htm
As for the mentioned cud chewers....waiter there is a hare in my soup....
Actually there's very broad agreement in the scholarly community that Paul didn't write most of the books attributed to him.
thats news to me, any links to these guys?? | |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 9:12:22 PM |
What evidence do you have for this?
Yeah, go to your local pet shop and watch them eat.  | |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 10:51:06 PM |
thats news to me, any links to these guys??
Check out http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/ for lots of information. Each book has it's own section. Most have discussions about authorship. If you have any large bookstores in the area (like Borders or Barnes and Noble) check out the religion section. You'll find books with titles like "Introduction to the New Testament" that will generally have in depth discussions about these matters. I just bought "Who Wrote the New Testament?" by Burton Mack and it looks pretty interesting so far.
It seems that the concensus is that Paul wrote 1 Thes, Philippians (which was probably originally 2 or 3 separate letters), Galatians, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Romans, and Philemon. There's some disagreement about whether he wrote Colossians. Concensus is that he didn't write any of the others. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 10:52:09 PM | | Coffeeholic, how would my observations of rabbits eating their pellets be evidence for what ancient writers thought? | |
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Posted: 1/9/2006 10:57:08 PM | | Anybody know any good books that have the transcripts or go into the Dead Sea Scrolls? Tanks | |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 5:26:01 AM | | what's any of this gotta do with Dating? Remember Plenty of Fish ? lol | |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 7:12:54 AM | | The bible, in my opinion is not fiction, and if it were it has more than stood the test of time for all generations. Of course there are many other religious books dating to antiquity but is anyone calling them fiction? | |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 7:14:21 AM | | Well they haven't been mentioned in this forum but I can think of a few "long-winded" people on these religious forums that may have a word or two about a Torah or whatever else is out there. No doubt :) | |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 7:20:13 AM | Message: Well they haven't been mentioned in this forum but I can think of a few "long-winded" people on these religious forums that may have a word or two about a Torah or whatever else is out there. No doubt :)
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Well they haven't been mentioned in this forum but I can think of a few "long-winded" people on these religious forums that may have a word or two about a Torah or whatever else is out there. No doubt
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What you have to say is welcome but to come in and say " ya well so and ao could say this" Let so and so speak for themself | |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 7:25:19 AM | | sheesh does everyone have to attack everything someone says? | |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 7:29:46 AM | | I would like to know why people post w/o adding to the thread. Is it unweaving we have going on because you waste a lot of others time | |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 7:31:18 AM | Okay I must have worded that wrong for you to get upset. Sorry.
I meant:
- yes, people do critique the other holy books of other religions in the other forums
- that those books and artifacts have not been brought up in this particular thread
- and it occured to me a few people that would have some things to say and that usually (from there posts) have quite a bit of knowledge on these areas and would have alot to say suported by alot of supporting data.
I wasn't ragging on anyone.
And to answer to OP: The Bible is a part of History and offers a valuable historical insight into the one of planets major relgions. Is it fact or fiction? Probably a bit of each. Most myths are based on fact, as well. So there's probably some "over exageration" based on an attempt to "sway the masses" and it worked.
There was no offense meant, folks. | |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 6:26:09 PM |
Coffeeholic, how would my observations of rabbits eating their pellets be evidence for what ancient writers thought?
Valid point, Count. Since both the bible and Aristotle considered hares to be cud chewers the only solution to this problem is that it is proof for evolution. | |
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Posted: 1/10/2006 7:42:59 PM | | We don't attack everything that someone says. We attack the stuff people say that we disagree with. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2006 11:26:01 AM | I belive the bible
I am speaking of the torah is a book of fact though i belive people try to make it spiritual when it is not, as they do not understand its true meaning.
zecharia sitchin is a hebrew scholar and one of the top translators of dead languages in the world has written many books on the subject of the bible validity. I personally agree with him as I have read his book as well as a lot of literal translations of the texts that make the bible. since that time i belive wholheartedly in the truth of the bible, and it has nothing to do with spirituality or the like .
www.sitchin.com | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 9:24:36 AM | | Isn't Sitchin the guy who claims to be an expert in the Sumerian language, but Sumerologists think he's a laughingstock? | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 11:55:33 AM | Regardless of the question and any possible answers....it is IMO moot at this point since tha "user" asking the question closed their account / or had it closed on the 6th of this month...
So you guys are all arguing in a rented room where the party doing the renting apparently has left the building!!!
Hope the cleaning staff doesnt mind all you people hanging around!!1 | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 6:03:17 PM | | ^^^^What else is new? That's par for the course around here. | |
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Posted: 1/16/2006 3:45:45 AM |
Isn't Sitchin the guy who claims to be an expert in the Sumerian language, but Sumerologists think he's a laughingstock?[/qoute] like to see where you are getting your info. sitchin is on another board. might want to don your posting there if you are posting in sitchen,  | |
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Posted: 1/16/2006 10:52:57 AM | | The Bible is based on a false premise. Therefore, Christianity and Judaism are false teachings. I doubt that most believers would accept this proof because people believe only what they want to. I hear religious people say that it is better to believe in something than in nothing but is it really? If religion is nothing but a bunch of superstition is it really better to believe it? Even if every person on Earth could agree there was only one true religion this would not make it true. Reality is not determined by a consensus of opinion or by human psychological needs. When a scientist is trying to discover the existence of a sub-atomic particle the thing does not exist simply because he wanted it to. When human beings do not have the answers they fill in the blanks with any nonsense that comes into their heads and this is where religion comes from. There is no such thing as divine revelation. If people choose to call the GREAT UNKNOWN, "God", if they choose to give it a personality and talk to it, I have no problem with that. But personally, for me, it does not answer any questions or give any peace of mind. | |
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