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 Alive In Christ

Joined: 12/18/2005
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Posted: 12/22/2005 4:42:44 PM
I can’t for the life of me imagine why a Christian would have a problem with the “Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.” CS Lewis was a devout Christian, and anyone who really understands Christianity should be able to see the parallels. There’s a lot more to it than good triumphing over evil, although that is obviously a big part of it. I’m a born-again Christian, and I absolutely loved the movie. I was a little shocked that Disney actually put out something known to have a Christian theme, tho.

Book burnings. That would be some evangelism tool, huh? I’d hope that any Christians on good solid ground would say “No” to that one!
 NeverCaNezzer

Joined: 9/8/2005
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Posted: 12/22/2005 4:52:42 PM
I would like to burn some books, namely the 5 book study course by microsoft for network admin..On the exams they ask questions not dealt with in the books...One wonders why there are so many bugs with MS software..we hates gates preciousssssssssss
 sister_wife2005

Joined: 11/22/2005
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Posted: 12/22/2005 8:50:35 PM

I can’t for the life of me imagine why a Christian would have a problem with the “Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.” CS Lewis was a devout Christian, and anyone who really understands Christianity should be able to see the parallels. There’s a lot more to it than good triumphing over evil, although that is obviously a big part of it. I’m a born-again Christian, and I absolutely loved the movie. I was a little shocked that Disney actually put out something known to have a Christian theme, tho.


I think that the first clue is in the title itself we are to have nothing to do with witchcraft
Yahweh says so in scriptures

Steve & Kara
 RDtoo

Joined: 1/30/2005
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Posted: 12/22/2005 11:12:59 PM
Interesting thing about that teletubbie debacle of a few years back. Pat Robertson (or was it Falwell?) declared one of the Teletubbies "gay" because of the triangle symbol on his/her head. Robertson/Falwell was widely ridiculed, but after the roar died down, one of the Producers of the Teletubbies show admitted that the Triangle symbol was a symbol of Gay Pride and was indeed intentionally put on the head of the purple teletubbie. I am no fan of Robertson or Falwell, but this seems to be a case where he was accurate.
 robert_paulson

Joined: 7/28/2005
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Posted: 12/22/2005 11:44:46 PM
I am still awaiting a source on the OP about Christians protesting against the Lion....etc.

I am not so much doubting it, as wondering what fringe denomination is going so strongly against the mainstream.
 sister_wife2005

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Posted: 12/23/2005 5:42:01 AM

Interesting thing about that teletubbie debacle of a few years back. Pat Robertson (or was it Falwell?) declared one of the Teletubbies "gay" because of the triangle symbol on his/her head. Robertson/Falwell was widely ridiculed, but after the roar died down, one of the Producers of the Teletubbies show admitted that the Triangle symbol was a symbol of Gay Pride and was indeed intentionally put on the head of the purple teletubbie. I am no fan of Robertson or Falwell, but this seems to be a case where he was accurate


I think it was Falwell, however I had not heard that they admitted to it being a symbol of Gay Pride. very interesting indeed.

Steve & Kara
 Cleopatracutie

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Posted: 12/24/2005 10:30:04 AM
Trust me there are alot of christians around here who are against it and catholics ect. Of course I live in a town that has only four thousand people and fourteen churches within the imediate area and alot of what you could call new order menonites (very strict christian values) and perhaps thats where alot of it hails from around here I just find it silly is all. It can be argued one way just as sure as it can be argued the other because there are plently who do like childrens stories like the ones written by lewis maybe just as many of us like them as much as religeous groups like the bible. Really it is awsome to see that people from religeous groups are cool with it cause honestly alot around here wouldn't.
 RDtoo

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Posted: 12/24/2005 10:33:05 AM
Can anyone produce a link to a story about Christians speaking out against Narnia as the OP suggests?
 sister_wife2005

Joined: 11/22/2005
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Posted: 12/28/2005 8:19:27 PM

Can anyone produce a link to a story about Christians speaking out against Narnia as the OP suggests?



http://www.newswithviews.com/BeritKjos/kjos50.htm

So far that is all we have been able to locate, hope it helps.

Steve & Kara
 SilverFire9

Joined: 12/26/2005
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Posted: 12/28/2005 10:35:35 PM
I just have to say it's unfair single out Christians as being the only ones to burn books. They happen to be that ones to do it because they've been the dominant religion in the western world for most of recorded history. It's not a trait of Christianity, but of zealots. I'm pretty much at the other end of the religious spectrum , and even I know that tolerance is one of the main teachings of pretty much every major religion in the world.
 Philosophers Stone

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Posted: 12/28/2005 10:37:12 PM


http://www.newswithviews.com/BeritKjos/kjos50.htm


That is an excellent article. Thank you.

It still doesn't seem particularly strong against Narnia. Mostly they seem to stay on the fence, but I havn't finished reading it yet. I'll read it fully later.
 sister_wife2005

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Posted: 12/29/2005 9:36:02 AM

That is an excellent article. Thank you.

It still doesn't seem particularly strong against Narnia. Mostly they seem to stay on the fence, but I havn't finished reading it yet. I'll read it fully later


I also found it a bit confusing however I also will be studying it on a more indepth basis.

Kara
 taurus516

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Posted: 12/30/2005 10:06:21 AM
The Xian community has always been vocal and always will be.They've been out front and led fights against everything from O Calcutta to the Last Temptation of Christ.For the most part these things are publicity plants.A story is planted and it contains something that will piss off the Xian community.For example,long before "Temptation" hit the theaters,a story was circulated about a new movie being made that portrayed Christ as a "swinging homosexual".This built up publicity for the movie which would not have been much of a news story otherwise.People who normally wouldn't care anything about the film,went to see it because of curiousity aroused from the publicity.In reality the movie was NOT about "Jesus the swinging queer"(as one pastor put it),but a movie based on a controversial novel.The story was planted by Hollywood publicists.This is a publicity trick Hollywood has used for many years.I don't know if that's what's going on here as "Narnia" has been successful on it's own merits.
 Philosophers Stone

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Posted: 12/30/2005 7:52:22 PM
Heh, that kinda reminds me of a really funny movie I picked up for a friend last Christmas.

Ultrachrist!

Its very funny and highly irreverent, but there is room for a Christian to enjoy it for what it is.

Seems kind of low budget, but I'd reccomend it to just about anyone on here except for the ones who tend to get their panties bunched up over things.

I think the only reason the panty bunching crowd never screamed bloody murder about it was that it was a really small time movie.
 zeldy

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Posted: 12/30/2005 8:07:54 PM
the chronicles of narnia are my favorite books, since as long as i can remember... wonderful stories, and written by a master... who happens to be a devoted christian and who happens to allude to his christian faith in every story he wrote
 flyguy51

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Posted: 12/30/2005 10:13:55 PM
I have been around a lot of Christians, and none of them struck me as the book burning type. Many seemed close to the sin of idolatry when it came to Lewis and Tolkien books! Potentially offensive books/movies were merely avoided.


Ultrachrist!

I gotta admit, info, the title alone made me laugh! Was the tagline "Now, new and improved!"? I liked Monty Python's "Life of Brian." In fact, I had a conservative pastor who liked it as well. Some people don't like irreverence at all, while it's a matter of degrees with most, I guess...
 Philosophers Stone

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Posted: 12/31/2005 1:17:44 AM
Well here is what Amazon has to say about it.



Plot Synopsis: Jesus returns to Earth in present-day NYC, sent by his Father to usher in 2000 years of Godly peace. Unfortunately, modern young people respond poorly to this bearded weirdo. Taking the advice of a market research guru, Jesus has a Spandex costume made and declares himself "Ultrachrist", an urban sin-fighter. Unfortunately, his Father doesn't approve of these unorthodox techniques, while the Antichrist (the NYC Parks Commissioner) ressurects an army of famous sinners to make sure Ultrachrist's mission fails.


Look it up. If you enjoyed Life of Brian, I'm sure you will have fun with this.
 Bewitched_

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Posted: 12/31/2005 10:30:35 PM
Christians burning books is well documented. I remember back in highschool they wanted to ban and burn the books 1984 as well as others. There were a lot of books blacklisted from the school libraries, and that was not so long ago.

Do I think they would continue if allowed? Most certainly yes...but with all the internet and so forth it is virtually impossible for Christianity to hide anything anymore from society. The witch burning days and book burning days are over.

Lewis is famous, and I remember the show the lion witch & wardrobe. It was a cartoon movie.
 Philosophers Stone

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Posted: 1/1/2006 12:18:07 AM
I don't think anyone is disputes that SOME sects of Christianity were prone to this behavior. Also it would not surprise me if SOME groups would still engage in this activity if it were more accepted.

Still... I don't think there has been any evidence of empassioned hatred for the Cronicles of Narnia series by any Christian groups. It would not surprise me terribly much if some group did hate it based purely on the title and the fact that "Magic" is involved. Hipocrisy is not new and Christians are not the only ones succeptible to it.

I am strongly opposed to censorship of any kind, but I support ratings systems. Why? Because ratings systems do not remove the choice, rather they supply more information as to the subject matter so that a better decision can be made.

If anything, this is the direction society as a whole seems to be taking.
 Cleopatracutie

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Posted: 2/17/2006 10:13:03 AM
Ok I found a few groups of religions that don't agree and here is one site that might help maybe not christians still religion though most is the same to me accept for certain things we need not get into in this thread topic lol...but here it is www.hollywoodjesus.com.
 4everDreaming

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Posted: 2/17/2006 4:09:27 PM
I actually have not heard anything negative about The Chronicles from religious people, now Harry Potter on the other hand..... The bookes are pretty much following the same premise though, so i dont see why they get in a fuss about harry.
Harry Potter Chronicles of Narnia
Hero whisked away to magical world via train
Magical spells and creatures such as dragons, centaurs, mermaids
Triumph over Voldemort with the help of Dumbledore
Reference various elements from non-Christian western folklore
Chronicles of Narnia
Heros whisked away to magical world via portal in wardrobe
Ditto Magical spells and creatures, add some talking animals and fauns
Triumph over the White Witch with the help of Aslan
Ditto Reference various elements from non-Christian western folklore

"By disassociating magic and supernatural evil, it becomes possible to portray occult practices as 'good' and 'healthy,' contrary to the scriptural declaration that such practices are 'detestable to the Lord.' This, in turn, opens the door for kids to become fascinated with the supernatural while tragically failing to seek or recognize the one true source of supernatural good--namely God.This is precisely the problem with the Harry Potter series: Evil is presented in an attractive, 'wholesome' package." ("Harry Dilemma" by John Andrew Murray. Teachers In Focus magazine website maintained by Focus On The Family.)

Just too much for me lol
 kevinBpc

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Posted: 2/20/2006 2:01:54 PM
It is not about jews, christians, muslims, buddists or whatnot.

It is about being humans.

Humans fear what they do not know or understand. They also fear
things that bring about change in their lives.

Hence fear starts and after some time people get to hate being afraid.
Hate then advances to anger, anger to malice and malice to death.

It is all about the human scope of life, not really about religions.

The Reich, Fascist Italy, USSR and PRC burned quite a number of books
and they were athiests.

It is all about the human.
 KyWidowsSon

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Posted: 2/20/2006 5:56:52 PM
No need for Christians too the athiest do enough of it as it is
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