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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 10/29/2008 9:20:40 PM |
Comparing us to hitler, who the hell do you think came to you and helped you out?Well, too bad we done that! huh? But of course we didn't come there to help the ones that was forced to follow hitler, we came to release the ones that were being tortured, starved, and killed all in the name of what?
While I agree the comment about Hitler was over the top...
You may need a history lesson: The US didn't go there until very late in the conflict, when it's own interests were at stake, Canada and other allies were already there way before.
It was about time you did something...
And it wasn't to save other people. Please, quit the condescending crap. | |
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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 10/30/2008 7:36:18 AM | "It would seem that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox hunting, bullfighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else."
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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 10/30/2008 8:08:59 AM | Laurence W. Britt's 14 common attributes of past fascist regimes.
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
5. Rampant sexism.
6. A controlled mass media.
7. Obsession with national security.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
9. Power of corporations protected.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
14. Fraudulent elections.
I'm not saying the USA is a fascist state but it is pretty chilling how close it's getting to the attributes of the fascist regimes of the past.
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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 10/30/2008 3:31:46 PM | yeah, sure you came to release all those being starved
try googling the bleiburg massacre... and who was complicant
"The survivors of the initial atrocities were organized into forced marches by the 7th Brigade of the 17th Partisan Division. The Croatians called them the "Death Marches." Tens of thousands of men, women and children were marched, hands tied with wire, through the villages and towns of southern Austria and Slovenia. On their southward trek toward the camps, they were starved, beaten, raped and ridiculed. Those who did not march were shot and dumped into shallow graves or caves. Wounded and ill Croatian soldiers and civilians in hospitals and field camps were loaded onto wagons and sent toward the camps with the southbound sea of humanity. Many would not survive. Those who did live would spend as much as a decade in concentration camps, labor battalions and prisons. Finally, the government of Yugoslavia plowed over Croatian military cemeteries and attempted to erase all traces of the Bleiburg massacres. As late as 1974 graves were removed to block investigation of the tragedy. 2 The total number of people liquidated may never be known. Despite the scholarship and masses of documents proving the contrary, the Yugoslav government denied that the Bleiburg-Maribor massacres or any subsequent liquidation of anti-Communists occurred. As late as 1976 special teams were active in Slovenia and southern Austria cover-ing up evidence of the crimes. The American and British governments, implicated in the forced repatriation that led to the slaughter, also sought to cover-up or at least ignore the crimes."
http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/yugoslav-hist1.htm
don't try and teach me my personal history
my mother's family was 7 km away from bleiburg when they were warned away so they missed the massacre but not the slave labour camps.... who benefitted from the camps?
you do the homework... but, pssst..........america, the UK and Russia
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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 10/30/2008 9:37:36 PM | I am grateful to my Canadian friends that have served so well in a leading role in Afghanistan. I am grateful and respectfull to my Canadian friends that did not agree with my country's decision to invade Iraq. I am also grateful for my Canadian friends that are not consumed by stereotype and biased, rhetorical bites of history taken far out fo general context. I am also grateful to my Canadian friends capble of enough critical thinking to understand whatever our motivations for not entering the conflict until 1941 that without the addition of the industrial capacity of our then nation of 100,000 million and 12 million in Uniform that they'd of been speaking German by Christmas of 1943.
Odd a Canadian would note us as facist when the cycle has us turning left, not right. Who did you people just elect? LMFAO.
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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 10/31/2008 4:04:10 PM |  I have a Cusin that Lives in The YUKON Territory I could go there and NEVER BE DETECTED and we could live for free FOREVER, The YUKON has been getting better of late GIRL WISE, it's far enough NORTH that america is not that much of a problem... 
 In the Arctic North GOOD BUSH PILOTS are valued higher than GOLD and I FLY a Piper Sherpa, I know no Border of limetation, but I ponder a new sport of Sky Sailing...  | |
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Posted: 10/31/2008 5:07:18 PM | Odd a Canadian would note us as facist when the cycle has us turning left, not right. Who did you people just elect?
Americans are no more Fascists than Canadians are, and if that has become the Description of the current US Politics & its President, I'd take that as nothing other than a Protest and a possible Desire for Change. PR flogging & Labeling during Elections usually goes a little overboard.
But I'll tell you this: I would not want your current political Line up of Candidates running our Economy or managing our Country. Its the worst & most sordid Lot in US History.
Politics aside, the American and Canadian People are pretty well much the same. I could not tell if I had an American among us, nor was anyone ever able to tell I was Canadian when in the US. Just a Line along the 49th ... | |
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Posted: 10/31/2008 5:12:19 PM | | I couldn't relocate to some where cold even if I was totally in love. I'd ultimately wind up miserable. I like it really hot. Zoo Jersey is too cold for me in the winter, if it weren't for my total lack of blood I would have relocated to New England (Red Sox suck!) because I love it up there. I also wouldn't relocate for a man if it meant moving away from my kids. I know they may move away one day and if that happens I'll have to deal with it but if my kids and I all wound up staying in the same area there is no way in heck I'd miss out on doing the whole grandparent thing. | |
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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 11/3/2008 11:23:50 AM | There are very few places i would move to in the states, i love the states, been all over them, very beautiful country, nice people,but there are too many social problems
but for the right person i guess i would
i really love new york city,it has its very own culture, and main is really something, so are the smokey's
fears, health care, an undemocratic political system,racism, gun crimes..... | |
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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 11/3/2008 11:51:58 AM | | I'd move, if I felt I knew the guy well. As for the country, there are some things about the U.S. that I don't care for (the right to bear arms, the death penalty in many states) but overall, I love the States. I love Canada too, but when it comes down to it, I actually love both countries equally and would be comfortable living north or south. (Though I have to admit, somewhere in the U.S. where they didn't get a bazillion degrees below zero every winter would be a definite bonus. ) | |
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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 11/3/2008 2:54:14 PM |
I love how this thread went from "Would you move to another country if you were in love?" to "My country rules, your country sucks!" Don't worry RAE... there's a lot of inner bashing going on too...
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well don't move to Ontario lol "a have not province" ,unless you love unions ,high taxes ,no jobs, and voting liberal....but don't worry Alberta will keep bailing you poor stupid easterners out over and over ...it has made my day to see this happen to all the nose in the air, better than everyone, middle of the universe ontario clowns ,plus neither of their football teams made to the playoffs in the CFL.... lol, 2 teams out of 8 and couldnt make it. and the blue jays suck! and the leafs suck!its a good day!
I think at this point I'd use any excuse I could find to move away. I love my city, but I'm just tired of it here. I need a change of scenery bad. C'mon up to Ontario... if I can manage to avoid all the perils mentioned above, I'll buy you a beer...
Back to the question... no, I wouldn't move simply because this is where my life is... and I don't mean just the country, I mean the city, my home etc...
I've lived in a lot of cities in Ontario, yet none have given me the sense of stability or belonging that I feel where I live... waking up in the mornings and no matter what the weather, for better or worse, this is home to me... I would wither anywhere else... | |
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Posted: 11/3/2008 6:09:35 PM | ok, i have lived in the states, LA,, and grew up across the river from Detroit, Windsor with a metro area of 450 th, has seen one police death, one since 1850
Detroit which is about a third the size of Toronto has more then 1000 gun related deaths, TO, 50 to 100 a year 'this is not a subtle cultural difference'.
We do not have a military presence in over 180 different countries in the world
We do take an active role in the world, while the US was still selling Hitler, munitions Canadian soldiers where in the thick of fighting
We where the first country to bring into being 'peace keeping' and have had an outstanding record in the world
We live up to our NATO obligations, we have been fighting and dieing in Afghanistan, our first casualties, were from American planes .
We are very far from being perfect, we are a country that has systematically turned its back on native affairs, aparthide was in fact based legally on the CDN, example
As far as being socialist, we are very very far from that,we belong to the developed countries of the world,all of them have housing, education, health care, no death penalty and so on....we are far less unionized, or socialistic then most EU countries
there are many many major cultural differences between our two countries
lol My aunt Clara would come over to visit us several times a week, she had a side arm in her glove compartment, and one in her bag, we never once locked our door | |
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| Would you Canadians move to the U.S,Would you Americans move to Canada if you met someone on here?
Posted: 11/3/2008 8:54:59 PM |
Comparing us to hitler, who the hell do you think came to you and helped you out?Well, too bad we done that! huh? But of course we didn't come there to help the ones that was forced to follow hitler, we came to release the ones that were being tortured, starved, and killed all in the name of what?
While I agree the comment about Hitler was over the top...
You may need a history lesson: The US didn't go there until very late in the conflict, when it's own interests were at stake, Canada and other allies were already there way before.
It was about time you did something...
And it wasn't to save other people. Please, quit the condescending crap.
I don't need a history lesson, read it many times. Talked to several jews that are here in the US. I know how they feel about it. They just happen to love us, and love living here. Seen the tattoos also. And since the canadians and other allies couldn't take care of it, the US did.
And in light of all the bs I've read here. NO, I would not move. Always thought canadians were pretty cool, not so much anymore.  | |
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Posted: 11/4/2008 2:09:22 AM | Since the subject of Detroit came up, that's a great example to use, in terms of the OT.
Detroit itself, of course, is one of the most dangerous, run down, and just plain nasty cities in the United States, and Windsor, just over the bridge, is a wonderful mid-size city, that is clean, safe, and, in reference to the topic, has a lot of night clubs that are jam packed with American college students, who come over on weekends and can drink at 18 (it's 21 in the United States).
For 5 years I was traveling over 5 states in the United States, starting out of Chicago, and going as far as Toronto heading East. I met about a dozen people at companies on both sides of the border, who were Canadian/American couples, in Detroit, Windsor, and Port Huron, MI. Every one of them had the American working in the U.S., the Canadian working in Windsor or Sarnia, and the couple living in Canada.
When I read the OP, of course, I was imagining having to pick up and move, but I know that there are a lot of couples, where one or the other crosses the border M-F, and it wouldn't be that big a deal to move from the suburbs of Detroit to Windsor.
As mentioned earlier, I think. Think what you will about politics, but in terms of daily life the only "culture shock" to deal with is that most things you buy in Canada have both English and French on the packaging, the gas is sold by the liter, and McDonald's has those fries with gravy ( forgot what they're called). Otherwise, you'd barely notice. There are even Tim Horton's in the Detroit area. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2008 4:42:34 PM |
If Wisconsin was too cold for me, I don't think I'd last in Canada.
Actually, where the vast majority of the Canadian population resides, it's warmer than most of Wisconsin. Weather wouldn't deter me. It never has, when I've had brief involvements with Canadian women. For most of Ontario, the weather is more or less similar to Detroit, rather than the sub zero that would be common for Green Bay or points north in Wisconsin. | |
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It is bad enough that I live next to lake erie and get the canadian cold coming from canada off the lake.
