| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 3/2/2007 2:04:04 PM | | yes.....however there are alot of other issues that are intertwined. smokers and non-smokers have co-existed for years. smoking combined with other bad habits are the reasons that people split up. i've never spoken to a person that left a relationship solely based on their partner was a smoker. lazy, adulterer, gambler,abuser,and he smoked. "good thing you kicked him to the curb...that smoking will kill ya. " if a smoker is considerate of non-smokers(including a potential mate) then there shouldn't be a problem. but if your car or house or clothes or breath smell of smoke then maybe you aren't as considerate as you thought you were. if you choose (or addiction chooses for you) to smoke, all of these other factors come into play. your "post sex cigarette" is also an issue if your mate wants to cuddle afterwards. it's up to each individual what they are willing to compromise in their relationship. to the smoker bashers: taxes paid by cigarette smokers pay for more than 65% of ALL medical research performed in this country. there is no other industry even close to cigarettes in the amount of taxes paid. as for the drain on healthcare, smokers already pay more than their fair share. obesity passed smoking as the number one drain on the health industry years ago but you don't get the emotional bashing of fat people about the habits that got them in that condition or how it effects your wallet. if both smokers and non-smokers were a little more considerate of each other, this thread wouldn't exist. | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 3/2/2007 3:54:13 PM | | My dad died of lung cancer and he did not smoke.If a man smokes, thats his business.I would never ask any1 to quit but for me its a dealbreaker.I hate when the stench of cigarettes gets in my hair or clothes.I have kissed men who smoke and the bitterness of tobacco is on their tongue.Sorry, it skieves me .This is not to say that some one who smokes is not a nice person, however, I shall not put myself in that scenario. | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/10/2007 7:36:14 PM | Smoking is a dealbreker for me too.. I always look to see what she listed in her profile and if it says " Smoker" "prefer not to say" or "occaisionally"then I say COOL...Same page.. no hassle! | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/11/2007 5:27:28 AM | | I find it most difficult, however, it is possible. I try to contact the woman that come close to my interests that smoke. Some comments on the site says non-smokers, well I do appreciate the message, however, I can't blame them. I have been a smoker since I was 18 and now at 60 I am still smoking, Marboro Country....the guy in the ad is dead, from cancer, as the paper said years ago. What can I say?? My suggestion as it stands, either stop smoking or deal with it. I have the same problem.....larrycpa | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/11/2007 6:59:16 AM | I'm sure this has been said somewhere in this posting, however, I feel the need to echo it again.
SMOKING IS A CHOICE. It's not a problem or a disease or anything else. You choose to suck in toxic smoke through your lungs for no aparent reason; you CHOOSE to do so.
I was "with" a woman who smoked...for 2 days...good thing is she could not smoke while we were having sex. In all...she might have had 2 cigarettes that weekend.
To the original poster...
You were looking for opinions here and then you blast those who give theirs. Sounds like you are angry that your disgusting habit keeps you from a good relationship. Think about it. If you are otherwise a great guy and would make someone a great bf/husband, why would you not stop smoking? | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/11/2007 7:09:15 AM | As non-smoker since my youngest brother and I tried to get used to the darned things more than thirty years ago, I find it hard to be around smokers for several reasons. And it has nothing to do with the person.
The smoke causes me to choke up and I find it hard to breathe. The smell lingering on my clothes after being among smokers I find "ugly" and have to wash my clothes right away. The taste of a mans mouth when kissing after cigs makes me feel nauseated.
So, there you go - non-smoker distatste for smokers is, for me, a purely chemical issue.
Good luck to you!
Pia | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/12/2007 8:45:27 AM | ... if both smokers and non-smokers were a little more considerate of each other, this thread wouldn't exist.
That's really the point, isn't it? Non-smokers expect smokers to be considerate of them, but are generally unwilling to return that consideration.
Date whoever you want, but please refrain from all the insults and/or lectures... and stop pushing for more and more oppressive laws.
And then there are the outrageous tobacco taxes. These are just simply theft. Is it okay to steal from a person who smokes? I don't think that defense would stand up in a court of law, much less constitute a considered moral/ethical value judgement... unless it is the government doing the stealing. Then somehow it is okay... NOT.
Political candidates promise some wonderful sounding program which they will finance through tobacco taxes, and people vote for them. Why would anyone vote a thief into office, unless they expect to profit from the theft? Kinda makes them thieves too, doesn't it? | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/16/2007 7:41:37 PM | | To me smokers are just drug addicts, foul smelling drug addicts. I would never even consider dating anyone who smoked. I can never understand why some people put "no drugs" on their personal write up, and then put down that they smoke. | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/17/2007 11:24:23 AM | I was thinking I was asking a simple question that would get some simple results, but, instead, I got all kinds of crazy responses and people calling each other names and insulting both smokers and non-smokers. That was not my intent.
A short (short as I can make it) history of me. Never smoked till I joined the military during that "conflict" they called Viet Nam. I particapeted in sports all my life. Even at the college level for football. I had my first smoke while trying to digest the taste of beer. After that, my superiors (military terms) offered me smokes. The USO gave me free smokes too. Also, the Red Cross passed them out. In our C-rations, there were small packs of smokes in every one. (supplied by the government) That same government provided ash trays at no cost to me. Now, that same government is telling me that I'm a nasty person for smoking. Since they have determined that it is habit forming (I'll never denie that one), I should have never started in the first place. Now, what's wrong with this picture???
Along the way (my career with the government), I experienced alot that the normal person would never conceive doing. Things that the normal person would say "no" to, I had to do. Consider unloading 650 dead bodies that were left in the heat of the Equator for 4-6 days. Consider being in a remote location during holidays and other special days. Consider not going to your grandparents funeral because you were the only one doing a job that was critical to national security. My relief to this was when I returned to the U.S. and became a high school and NCAA game official in baseball and football, only to have an injury to my foot that took that away too. If any of you have experienced panic attacks, you might relate. Thinking you are having a heart attack, stroke, etc. everyday is not funny. After all the tests, the doctor (who did not smoke) recommended that I not try to quit until the attacks were under control.
Now, for all of you that posted about all the dangers, etc., you'll be happy to know that I just had a chest x-ray that they could not believe. Perfectly clear lungs. My ggrandfather smoked and lived to be 85 and died in 1940. That was not the time for advanced medicine. My grandmother never smoked and was exposed to second hand smoke and I guess she died early at age 90. My grandfather smoked and died at age 85 after he broke his hip. Studies have shown that people build up resistance to different things by being exposed to them. The last one I read about was the difference between NY City and people living on farms. The city had more cases of hay fever than did the farms maily because the people on farms built a resistance to it. The majority of causes of death in my family has been because of old eating habits. Of course, today, we have to watch what we eat because of all the additives. My relatives died of eating too much fat and could have lived longer if they only stayed away from the bacon greese, etc.
As for as the "ash tray taste" goes, I perfer not to kiss a woman who has old wine breath. That's my choice, but, if I liked the woman, I'd do it. May I mention that two of my cousins died of liver problems because of drinking too much and never smoked. One poster had it correct. We'll go when we go and we have no control over it.
I've since met a lovely person that does smoke. We've been together for about 6 months now and it's working out good. We have discussed quiting smoking mainly because of the rising costs of it due to government taxes. The cost is going up everyday and I don't see the cost of beer or whisky going up anywhere near that rate. The government is even charging us more in our military installations to stop us from doing what they promoted doing for years. They have not given us anything of benifit to help us. I once had an Rx for Zyban and was told it was an elective drug and my government insurance would not cover it.
So, stop bashing smokers. Stop bashing non-smokers. Find a solution that we can co-exist without all the BS. Stop being selfish. | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/17/2007 12:09:40 PM | | For me its Hard to date someone who smokes, After a bout with cancer in jan of 2006.I stopped smoking on jan 2nd 2006 > I am cancer free now but the temptation to smoke is rough when im exposed to it so i rarelyt date any one who smokes | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/19/2007 12:34:53 AM | | to be realistic when you smke you actually stink of smoke, you will not know that unless you quit, it is an offensive smell, I smoke I know that, so a non smoker really can not tolerate the smell, that is why they would rather not deal with it | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/19/2007 3:17:35 AM | | As much as I have stated on these threads the negatives of smokers , I would still date one if there was a connection. One problem I have noticed is that if you go on a date , they have to leave every so often have a smoke at dinner . This breaks up the flow of the conversation . | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/19/2007 5:46:20 AM | I am sure glad the OP decided to give a history of why he smokes. Truth is, as I have mentioned before, all that mumbo jumbo can be limited to one little phrase; I smoke because I choose to do so. Plain and simple. Regardless of how you started smoking, you continue to smoke by choice. Clean bill of health or otherwise, smokers smell of smoke.
This brings up a great question in my mind...
What does everyone think about cigars, or cigar smokers? Do you have the same thoughts or different?
Just curious. | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/19/2007 9:30:17 AM | TO JUST CURIOUS..... THANK YOU "SIR" I AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT ANYTHING WE DO IS BY CHOICE. WE HAVE THE FREE WILL TO DO MANY THINGS IN THIS LIFE, SO "NO ONE" SHOULD LOOK FOR AN EXCUSE FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR.... JUST BE BIG ENOUGH TO ADMIT YOUR HABITS. I AM A SMOKER,AND REALLY KNOW I SHOULD STOP"FOR MY OWN REASONS". BUT I DO IT, AND NO ONE MADE ME DO IT. LOL THAT IS MY BAD HABIT IF IT IS ONE.......BUT SO BE IT........"I" BUY THEM , MYSELF. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE YOUR PROBLEM UNTIL IT COST YOU.....AND I DO RESPECT THOSE THAT DON'T SMOKE.
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 4/19/2007 1:17:34 PM | I have never, ever smoked. Never even tried it. My parents did when I was a kid..and I hated it. Mom died of lung cancer at age 58. I pretty much have never dated a smoker and didn't think I ever would. Five months ago a man I knew and dated briefly when I was 18 entered my life again...and it's love for both of us. He was trying to quit when we started dating, but since moving to Florida, starting a very stressful job, and dealing with some worries his kids have heaped on him , he relapsed. I love the man. Not gonna give up someone wonderful because he smokes. He knows how I feel about it and is very considerate around me. Mostly, it seems he smokes during the day at work..and not much at night. He said he wants to try to quit again..and I'm sure when he's ready he will. He's too wonderful to forget so I make sure I always have breath mints and gum with me..lol  | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 5/13/2007 4:37:43 AM | I have and would date a smoker. I even put it in my profile that I would date one. I quit in 2000 and remember how hard it was to find someone to date. I felt I was being wronged in some way; I didnt plan to smoke in their home. I felt I had a lot of offer and people have become more rigid about lots of things. They tend to look for deal breakers.
When I date a woman who smokes she usually raises the issue and I simply state I'm cool with it as long as they don't smoke in my house. | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 5/13/2007 8:43:54 AM | Well, I think it does bother other people, in my case I smoke only socially, but if I find a good match and he does not smoke, I will quit to smoke, can you do the same? have you try? Estela | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 5/14/2007 7:33:03 AM | | Maybe some non-smokers would date a smoker, but I wouldn't. I'd rather be alone. For me, I quit 10 years ago and many times I have been tempted to light up again, but smoking smells really bad, I was sick all the time with bronchitis, I was uncomfortable waiting for my next ciggarette because I could no longer smoke in so many places, and mostly my husband died of lung cancer when he was 44. But my 20 yo daughter married a smoker and he spends an awful lot of time thinking about quiting and feeling uncomfortable with the fact that he smokes. Smoking is a very difficult habit and addiction, I wouldn't date anyone addicted to anything. | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 7/28/2007 10:18:02 AM | | I'm a ex smoker and I can say that when I smoked I thought that I was a considerate smoker. Since I have stopped smoking I can not tell you how horrible it smells on a person . (you don't smell it when you smoke) You can put on perfume or try to mask it, nothing works ! I'm sure I could have lived a full life with them but I'm thankful I stopped . I have had people write me that smokes and I just will not date them reguardless of looks | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 7/30/2007 9:05:58 AM | | I smoke. Not every day but I smoke. Because of work I had a pulminary exam. My results came in with a lung capacity of a 36yr old. I'm 43. I play two man beach volleyball. Play well enough to make nationals. I no more tag someone with a title, than I expect someone to tag me. I think it is silly to do so. More people die in auto accidents per year than smokers from smoke related issues. More people die from alcohol per year than smokers. If you don't like smoking thats fine. Dont tag me lazy or stupid. I am nether. I enjoy smoking. I would not jump out of a perfectly working aircraft, depending on nylon to slow my decent enough to land without injury. People do. I applaud them. I do not smoke in my home nor around any of my friends that dont smoke. Respect. We all need to learn what that word really means. | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 7/31/2007 7:27:33 AM | | I guess that POF has so many perfect people signed up that they can bash and put down and say how nasty we are. They must lead a life for others to emulate. Oh, emulate, to be like something, someone. They set the highest example and they know it. Just ask them. | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 1/30/2009 3:43:18 AM | Cajun, don't listen to these childish, hateful non-smokers.
To you non-smokers: I don't want to breathe your exhaust fumes. So, stop driving your diesel or unleaded gasoline cars. PLEASE. 
Did you know that your tires will throw up lethal amounts of tire dust as you're driving?
Wake up to reality, folks. Household dust is bad for your lungs. We're breathing s*it in general. Next time you drive toward a major city, look up into the sky. When it's brown, that's bad. And I guarantee to you that it's not smokers causing it.
But you'll say nothing negative against car exhaust because you're doing it yourself. It's funny how the world turns. lol | |
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| Can a smoker get a date with a non smoker? Posted: 1/30/2009 4:10:29 AM |
Find a solution that we can co-exist without all the BS
WOW - I just read this thread for the first time! Cajun, I whole heartedly ENDORSE your statement ....
whether it applies to the topic of SMOKING
or ANYTHING in life!
WELL SAID! | |
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