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Joined: 1/6/2008
Msg: 226 | |
| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/29/2008 8:53:20 PM | keep in mind that men died earlier than women do,
this man will be 60 when this girl is 38,
it could be that for reasons that we don't know that this fellow believes he may pass on around this age and wants his widow to be of an age that she can still enjoy life and her inheritance. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/29/2008 9:44:15 PM | You're boring me now , and you missed the sarcasm Slick, must I explain everything to you Chico, should I dumb it down for you or say it slower you know S L O W E R
That might be a little too Q U I C K for your brain to process. You're better off sticking to what you do best...making outlandish statements like the ones I quoted again below. Anyway, I never noticed any sarcasm...just pathetic attempts to avoid being called on your crap.
You're acting like this is a theoretical exercise for me or something, its not Slick. Never said anything about it being a theoretical exercise, you're stating absolutely ludicrous things as if they were fact. Let me refresh your memory:
Mahogany quote #1: "So what Steve, I can point out couples who married or were attached at that age, her being 19 the guy 30 ish, who are not together today, so whats the point? for ever 1000 failures there is 1 success? great odds .........I think you have a better chance playing Lotto."
Mahogany quote #2: "They have a name for people who like the young ones its called Ephebophilia, they (society) deems it a problem to give it a name."
And you think most adolescents are ready for the responsibilities and roles of being a wife, and mother, if so look at some of the threads of young married mothers on here looking for friends/talk email.
You need to work on your reading comprehension. No one said "most adolescents", but rather that there might be a few that are, in fact, suited for such a relationship. It's their life and their choice. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 4:56:39 AM |
(Msg 225) And you think most adolescents are ready for the responsibilities and roles of being a wife, and mother, if so look at some of the threads of young married mothers on here looking for friends/talk email.
I see two things to consider. If it's a question about the man's age she will do much better marrying an older man than she will a younger man. Generally speaking, an older male will be more established. That translates into providing a more secure environment for any possible children as well as for the gal herself.
If it's just a question of marriage I think it's safe to say she will avoid the inevitable 18 and 19 and 20 year olds just dropping by for sex and breaking her heart. As I asked earlier how many 18 year olds marry their boyfriend and have a marriage of any length?
A 40 year old will, almost always, treat her better. As for the "novelty" wearing off when the guy is 50 she will be 30. I have no doubt the "novelty" will still be there.
If, after ten years, she decides to leave she will leave with a lot more than if she was leaving a 28 year old assuming she married someone her own age. If she leaves at 28 she will receive the mandatory child support payments and the Judge will no doubt add that she receive support for a period of time, say, two years. In that time she will be able to return to school and increase her education enabling her to get a job.
The point is even the worst case scenario is not all that bad concluding marrying a 40 year old is a win-win situation. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 5:23:44 AM | Tick tock, preach on brother, shout it from the mountain top so we can praise Gawd
you're my new hero want a cookie now
why don't you post what you feel about the subject instead of chiming, oh wait you don't have a opinion on the subject I forgot
I'm not for it or against it. Could care less, oh not-so-bright one.msg 222 I am left only to assume that this is attempted humour on your part, perhaps to take a opportunity to a draw attention to yourself and your uncharacteristic quality as such??
At least guys like Dave1234 has a opinion and voices it unlike some cowards who just sits on the fence and thinks there funny, I do hope in the future you refer to the topic at hand as opposed to a individual poster Sport, but im flattered from all the attention from you
muahhhhhhhhh big boy. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 8:03:42 AM | Tick tock, preach on brother, shout it from the mountain top so we can praise Gawd
Thank you, God! Thank you for making some targets sooooooooooooo easy!
Back to you, Mahogony:
Oh, the irony! Preaching is EXACTLY what you've been doing, my friend. lol. Instead of discussing this issue, you've been trying to convince everyone that it is wrong, wrong, wrong...even to the point of making up statistics off the top of your head to plead your case...tsk tsk. And then, you're so unobjective, that you misinterpreted a term to mean that society has a problem with this situation. I think you are too emotionally invested and can't see things clearly anymore. You may need to google 'therapists' to remedy your situation. I wish you well.
At least guys like Dave1234 has a opinion and voices it unlike some cowards Perhaps this is a little above you, Mahogany, but people can feel this way about certain issues in life. Only simple minded people see every issue in terms of black and white. They are the same people being spoon fed the enemies of freedom crap that we hear south of the border. Let me break it down for you, so you won't be scratching your head too much: I am not for it (meaning it doesn't appeal to myself personally because I like a bit of experience and intelligence in my partner) but I am not against it (that is, just because it is not my cup of tea, doesn't mean it is not a perfect fit for someone else). It feel the same way about many things in life. For example, homosexuality: I am not for it (doesn't appeal to me since I have no attraction to men) and I am not against it (I believe poeple have a right to express their sexuality in whatever way they please without the fear of discrimination). Unlike yourself, I don't have a need to judge people or their business and, at least, make an attempt to see things from their perspective. Have you got it yet?
but im flattered from all the attention from you
muahhhhhhhhh big boy.
Uh oh! There you go misinterpreting things again. I noticed all the cute pet names you were giving me, but I didn't think that you were that serious. Sorry Mahogany, you should refer to what I was saying about homosexuality above. Hope I didn't break your heart.
I do hope in the future you refer to the topic at hand as opposed to a individual poster
You might want to take that advice yourself. Hmmm...I remember questioning your statistics (on topic) and then you went into a rage because someone, GOD FORBID!, dared questioned your "wisdom". lol.
PS. Can't wait to see another brilliant retort from you, Mahogany, when I get home from work! | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 8:16:23 AM |
I'm surprised her parents even let her go through with the ceremony!
Don't think this one will last...
If she is 18, there isn't anything her parents could do about it. She is of legal age to make all her own decisions. If it is a mistake, is's her mistake.
Age isn't often the deciding factor in whether a relatioship works or not. Maybe they have a lot more in common that the outside eye can see. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 8:32:13 AM | Ohhh I just love the smell of testosterone in the morning! *sniff*sniff*sniff*
I think it is shameful and disgusting that's what I think. If that old coot is such an altruist Dave..he could adopt an 18 year old...not marry one. There is no excuse for not respecting the fact that an 18 year old is still a child...not a repository for an old coots lust.
A 40 year old will, almost always, treat her better. As for the "novelty" wearing off when the guy is 50 she will be 30. I have no doubt the "novelty" will still be there. Almost always huh Dave? Don't bet your dog on that one!!! | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 8:59:26 AM | Im still waiting for you to say something brilliant Tick tock, so far all Im seeing from you is a lot snap crackle and no pop.
Thank you, God! Thank you for making some targets sooooooooooooo easy! don't flatter your self Sport.
Oh, the irony! Preaching is EXACTLY what you've been doing, my friend. lol. Instead of discussing this issue, you've been trying to convince everyone that it is wrong, wrong, wrong...even to the point of making up statistics off the top of your head to plead your case oh I see because I said this
for ever 1000 failures there is 1 success? great odds .........I think you have a better chance playing Lotto.-mahoganyrush msg 217 oh i see so because i said that im now making up statistics? first thing I was talking to Steve, so prove to me that im wrong Slick ,Do you have stats to suggest otherwise? put your money where your mouth is......You opened it up so prove to me that im wrong? some people's kids
And then, you're so unobjective, that you misinterpreted a term to mean that society has a problem with this situation. I think you are too emotionally invested and can't see things clearly anymore. You may need to google 'therapists' to remedy your situation. I wish you well. what because you say so? puleaseeeeeee give your head a shake while your at it
So I see, because my opinion differs from yours that makes me wrong and you right?
I see now , I think you better take your meds sport, all you've given so far is chicken shit answers
Unlike yourself, I don't have a need to judge people or their business and, at least, make an attempt to see things from their perspective. Have you got it yet? oh goonie goo goo, typical politically correct answer, cause you have no f uckin opinion while I may not agree with Dave1234, at least he's got the balls to voice a opinion and him i can debate with ,you are just a f uckin coward hiding behind a screen afraid to voice a opinion and comes up comedic innuendo's and whats with the Homosexuality comments.
And what does the enemies of freedom crap below the border have to do with the topic
I still think any guy in their 40's who has to marry a 18 year old obviously has problems
and if you think its ok, God or Allah or who ever you serve, blesses you. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 9:05:23 AM | | well this is the time age does not really matter. Some views of others make good point, however the worse that can happen is she come to her senses and trdae him in for two twenties.lol. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 9:56:02 AM | Well, I gotta head out the door, Mahogony, but I'll give you another lesson before I leave.
oh i see so because i said that im now making up statistics? first thing I was talking to Steve, so prove to me that im wrong Slick ,Do you have stats to suggest otherwise? put your money where your mouth is......You opened it up so prove to me that im wrong? some people's kids
YOU'RE the one who threw them out there and I'm the one who challenged you on them. YOU have yet to back them up so who is being the coward now? I mean, if you so readily knew the statistic on how many failed relationships there were per 1000, they must have been right at your fingertips. Right? .
So I see, because my opinion differs from yours that makes me wrong and you right?
You have the right to be wrong, but please state that it is your opinion and stop trying to speak on behalf of society as if it is fact (like in your infamous post: " They have a name for people who like the young ones its called Ephebophilia, they (society) deems it a problem to give it a name." lol I still get a laugh out of that one). Like I said before, the mere existence of a term does not mean that society views it as a problem, otherwise we'd all be screwed.
oh goonie goo goo, typical politically correct answer, cause you have no f uckin opinion while I may not agree with Dave1234, at least he's got the balls to voice a opinion and him i can debate with ,you are just a f uckin coward hiding behind a screen afraid to voice a opinion and comes up comedic innuendo's and whats with the Homosexuality comments
Sounds like you're getting angry, Mahogany. I love when unintelligent people try to goad a judgement out of someone who views it differently from themselves. Everything is in writing already if you're capable of reading. You can stick to your holier-than-thou mentality and paint everything with stokes of black and white, while I am capable of seeing the spectrum. It suits you, my friend.
PS. Try not to get too upset, Mahogony. I can almost see your stress lines. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 10:46:51 AM | why do you think im upset Tick tock, you actually make me laugh, you're just too stooopid to see that
YOU'RE the one who threw them out there and I'm the one who challenged you on them. YOU have yet to back them up. I mean, if you so readily knew the statistic on how many failed relationships there were per 1000, they must have been right at your fingertips. Right? well Professor I got my information from International humanist and Ethical Union , and how they launched a joint campaign with WPF against the horror of child marriages,( marriages under 19 years of age) no need to make up stats Jagoff, why dont read the reports for your self or are you too busy catching up on episodes of " Family guy"
You have the right to be wrong, but please state that it is your opinion and stop trying to speak on behalf of society as if it is fact. Like I said before, the mere existence of a term does not mean that society views it as a problem, otherwise we'd all be screwed I can see " reading" is something you don't do to often? good Lord
THIS IS WHAT I SAID
In my opinion there is still a huge gap in maturity levels, 2) Tell me what do they have in common that they could discuss on a equally intellectual ground??-mahoganyrush MSG 187 In my OPINION (need a definition of Opinion too?) ......care to buy Hooked on Phonics now, they might have a special discount if you hurry
I love when unintelligent people try to goad an opinion out of someone who views it differently from themselves. Everything is in writing already. You can stick to your holier-than-thou mentality and paint everything with stokes of black and white, while I am capable of seeing the spectrum. It suits you, my friend so calling me unintelligent doesn't make you intelligent, but good try though, your rationale is flawed to which im not surprised, you must posses intelligence it in order to able to recognize it.
PS. Try not to get too upset, Mahogony. I can almost see your stress lines wow can you predict the future too??with this extra ordinary gift you should be able to market it Slick, and thank you for the compliment " holier than thou" you shouldn't have
much appreciated though
Tip for you, Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but why do some abuse the privilege ???kumbaya my lord Kumbaya | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 11:38:55 AM | | Well, if she believe she has found true love, so be it. I am in a situation like this now, I like a guy who happens to be 37. I am 22. My mother really disagrees with me dating someone too much older, I like him, doesn't mean I'll marry him. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 12:19:28 PM |
if she believe she has found true love, so be it.
I don't wanna involve myself in these two's spat, but I just wanna add that even though things like this do kinda rub me the wrong way too, it isn't impossible for a rewarding relationship to result from people with big age differences. I KNOW that to be fact as certain relatives of mine(that I won't mention) were married when she was in her teens as well, and he was notably older than 40. They had a happy rewarding life, 7 kids, and many grandchildren who all enjoyed, or are still enjoying their lives. That was many decades ago though, and things were alot different way back then. I don't think it's too great an idea nowadays, but I don't think it's "completely impossible" for it to lead to a good life either. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 12:28:39 PM | I see nothing wrong with that...
she is giving him what he want...which is sex
and he is giving what she want...which is security
and they are both adults | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 12:57:27 PM | | the way i c it is that as long as it is real love between the pepole then age is just a number and to let them be happy. Love comes in all shapes sizes ages, colors , and about any other thing you can think of there right. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 5:38:01 PM | | Dear Friends,Nothing wrong with that as long they are in love ,as long as the man is healthy,men at 40 is the ideal age to marry and to marry a young woman is to have a family and children. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 6:20:15 PM | Are you joking? Give me a break!... Any 18 year old woman marrying a 40 year old has serious father issues. I don't care if you disagree with me or not.. The guy is the age her father could be, you do the math... The only other reason is because he has money..  | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 7:00:20 PM | well Professor I got my information from International humanist and Ethical Union , and how they launched a joint campaign with WPF against the horror of child marriages,( marriages under 19 years of age) no need to make up stats Jagoff, why dont read the reports for your self or are you too busy catching up on episodes of " Family guy"
Bwahahahahaha!! Nice try, Mahogany! Did you actually believe that I wouldn't look at their website? Oh man, you are either a) not bright or b) desperate to manipulate facts. Let me underline why:
1) I didn't see any stat listed regarding marriages between 40 year olds and 18 year olds. Why don't you provide a link? Oh yeah, that's because none exists.
2) They are talking about forced (arranged) marriages in third world countries whereas we are talking about a mutual relationship in western countries (but you already knew that when you said that in an earlier post, didn't ya? ;) )
3) Your report concentrates on children/adolescents from the ages of 14-19 (lumped together as one), so your made-up stat (because there was no stat) doesn't apply for the reasons all the reasons above plus the fact that no one here is talking about relationships with anyone under the age of 18.
4) The only thing that resembles a stat that I saw was that the mortality rate for young girls (1o-up) during pregnancies in coerced marriages and in third world countries was higher than that of women in their twenties.
So...how does that have anything to do with what Steve originally said? I'll refresh your memory before you try another not-so-slick maneuver to avoid this:
Steve wrote:
I know a couple who got together when she was 19 and he 49. They moved in and are still together after 7 years. No, they are not married but neither are a lot of couples.
To which you responded:
So what Steve, I can point out couples who married or were attached at that age, her being 19 the guy 30 ish, who are not together today, so whats the point? for ever 1000 failures there is 1 success? great odds .........I think you have a better chance playing Lotto."
I guess if I'm watching Family Guy, you must be watching Teletubbies because man o man is your critical thinking nonexistent.
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Tick Tock wrote:
You have the right to be wrong, but please state that it is your opinion and stop trying to speak on behalf of society as if it is fact. Like I said before, the mere existence of a term does not mean that society views it as a problem, otherwise we'd all be screwed
Your response:
I can see " reading" is something you don't do to often? good Lord THIS IS WHAT I SAID In my opinion there is still a huge gap in maturity levels, 2) Tell me what do they have in common that they could discuss on a equally intellectual ground??-mahoganyrush MSG 187 In my OPINION (need a definition of Opinion too?) ......care to buy Hooked on Phonics now, they might have a special discount if you hurry
Actually, I think you need to check your memory there, bud. Let me refresh your memory, yet again, as to the gem of a post that you left behind that I was actually refering to, but you're trying to scurry away from like a cockroach from light. Nice try!:
Mahogany wrote:
They have a name for people who like the young ones its called Ephebophilia, they (society) deems it a problem to give it a name Ah...that just never gets old!
Tip for you, Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but why do some abuse the privilege ???kumbaya my lord Kumbaya
I don't know, but I'm taking your privileges away. Now go to your room and try something you're good at, like giggling at pop-up books. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 7:36:30 PM | Oh, one more thing Mr. Reading Comprehension, you wrote this:
well Professor I got my information from International humanist and Ethical Union , and how they launched a joint campaign with WPF against the horror of child marriages,( marriages under 19 years of age)
while they (the group you quoted) want this:
Introducing laws to raise the legal age of marriage to 18 years, as agreed in the African Charter on the Rights and Welfare of the Child | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 1/30/2008 7:40:01 PM | youre sounding like a loser now Tick tock, who the fuk cares what who quoted what, you havent said shit about the topic, you just like to scrap, and mahogany youre doing the same thing
no wonder threads get deleted cause of d ickheads like you guys who try to out do each other
I love it when guys without pictures fight, youre too chicken to post pics and you try to sound like tough guys
any ways that f cuked up, any guy over 40 went after my daughter, might not make it out of my place in one piece the sick fuk | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 2/18/2008 7:45:51 PM | | I'm as open-minded as anyone about age gap relationships. but sooner or later she's going to be getting attention from guys her own age, and eventually she's bound to begin questioning her attachment to such an older man. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 2/18/2008 10:22:59 PM | I hope she doesn't see him as a sugar daddy.
Other then that, best of luck to them.
I know I'll never be that lucky.................unless I'm REALLY rich! | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 2/19/2008 10:29:24 AM | Seeing as how they are both legally adults I don't think that it is anybody else's business.
I do however find it most interesting that most people assume that it is their business. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man?
Posted: 2/19/2008 10:44:25 AM | ~OP~
I see no problem with such a relationship. In today’s society at 18yrs old she is recognized as a legal adult capable of making her own decisions . She is no long a “girl” she is a woman, albeit young, but nonetheless a woman.
Furthermore you make the mistake of imputing your own desires and ambitions as to what you would have wanted for yourself onto her. Not everyone takes the same path in life. | |
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