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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/13/2008 12:50:07 PM |
Nothing wrong with an 18 year old, not a dam thing! The ones who will do all complaining are older women. Especially ones with no man. They simply cannot compete with a younger woman. A young, fresh, perky and optimistic young women comes into the office and the older women hate her. The old bags will put her through the meat grinder. The caddy mean krap they will pull is unbelievable. I have had 18, 19 and a 24 year old girlfriends recently and they're great!
Yep. How very typical. Use the "old bitter woman" shaming card. Haha. Oh...should have I added jealous, frigid and addled to the list too?
Would you like me to forward you the contents of "this old bag's" inbox as it stands right now at this very moment and see who's jealous of who... sir?
If that wasn't so pathetic and SO predictable it might even be worth getting upset about. Or perhaps worth having a good laugh over. As it stands now, I just find it incredibly pathetic. And very sad.
My own two daughters are incredibly beautiful young women. I have a granddaughter who's growing into a lovely young woman as we speak. I regularily contact younger women on this very site to tell them how much they give me hope for the future.
To even insinuate that the only reason that I might find a lecherous 40 year old man wanting to ROB my daughter or ANY other teenage girl of their youth is because I'm jealous is borderline SLANDEROUS in my opinion.
And Dave...if you can't understand that a child will learn more of what *I* want them to learn in life by watching their mother work hard towards her goals, EVEN though they might be poor, then I truly have nothing left to say. It's pointless. You will never get it.
And of course I KNOW that if an 18 year old wants to be with a 40 year old there's nothing I can do. What...do I look old AND stupid too? But a 40 year old should have enough brain, maturity, self control, and restraint to KNOW better than to ROB a teenager of their youth. PERIOD.
But it's okay....I know for a FACT that my daughters learned the meaning of compassion, empathy, courage, hard work, devotion and all the stuff that *I* find important in life by watching their mother work hard to provide a good life for them.
And in the end, that's all that matters.
...The ones who will do all complaining are older women. ...Especially ones with no man. ...The old bags ... the older women hate her. ...The caddy mean krap they will pull is unbelievable. ...They simply cannot compete
What some insulting troll says on a message board doesn't change a thing.
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/13/2008 7:54:10 PM |
(Msg 429) And Dave...if you can't understand that a child will learn more of what *I* want them to learn in life by watching their mother work hard towards her goals, EVEN though they might be poor, then I truly have nothing left to say. It's pointless. You will never get it.
Whose to say that 18 year old girl won't be working towards goals? Is the guy super wealthy? She'll probably be doing what any married 18 year old would be doing EXCEPT having to deal with an 18 year old husband.
What kind of life can the average, working full time, 18 year old guy offer his wife? It's doubtful he has a degree at that age. It's also doubtful he has any money set aside for emergencies. Who would want their daughter put in that position? Furthermore, who would encourage their daughter to forfeit a life with the average 40 year old knowing the type of life she would have with a typical 18 year old?
The questions are who can offer her a better life and what parent would attempt to influence her against having a better life? One does not neend to live in poverty to understand "compassion, empathy, courage, hard work and devotion". If anything, poverty robs one of those things.
But a 40 year old should have enough brain, maturity, self control, and restraint to KNOW better than to ROB a teenager of their youth. PERIOD
Again, what's being robbed? On the other hand if she married an 18 year old then her youth probably would be robbed. She'd be working and never have any money for herself. She'd be scrambling to pay babysitters. She'd be dealing with a husband who has the maturity of an 18 year old.
Obviously she wanted a partner. She wanted to be part of a couple. Picture an 18 year old girl who is serious about finding such a relationship and then think about what she would go through with guys her age. She'd most likely end up bitter and jaded after being continually lied to and used.
Think back. When you were 18 how many 18 year old guys did you meet who would have made the "ideal" husband"?
If anything, the 40 year old probably spared her a youth of heartache not to mention years of struggling as a single mom.
I'm sorry to say but it appears some people would do anything to prevent a 40 year old man from being with a young woman even if it meant condemning the young woman to years of abuse and misery.
All logic points to her having a better life with a 40 year old. We can be damn sure he will appreciate her more and treat her better than the average 18 year old guy would. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/14/2008 9:15:52 PM | With all of the bad things going on in this world like murders, wars, starvation, genocide, some people don't like the idea of two adults, an 18 year old and a 40 year old marrying. They are both adults and have the right to make their own decisions without busybodies meddling in their business.
Love can overcome race, gender, financial, physical and social differences, love can overcome just about anything, but when it comes to age it's all blown out of proportion. Why not just let people love who they want to love. If they only have one week of happiness, that is better than no happiness. I wish them much happiness. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 2:43:51 PM | | Actually, most age difference relationships are better, and last longer, than same age relationships. That is usually when both are seasoned adults, though...say a 30 year old and a 45 year old, or a 4o year old and a 60 year old. An 18 year old has not had much chance to spread wings, try things, learn about life, and even figure out what he/she wants in a relationship...let alone a marriage. If they are in love enough to get married now they are in love enough to be able to seperate, be apart for a few years, and then get back together again and marry when she is 21, or 22. If their love can't withstand such a trial seperation now, it would never withstand a marriage. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 2:51:12 PM | | So glad someone brought this up. I met someone on here last October and fell head over heels and found out in January he had been cheating on me with a 16 year old girl since I met him. He was 45 and our relationship seemed perfect and I was so happy. I don't get the attraction, either way, he's cannot physically attractive to a teenager and she doesn't have enough life experience to hold a stimulating conversation. I supect an insecure teenager meets a mid life crisis....short term stuff! Hope this doesn't offend anyone but this guy really hurt me xxx | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 2:53:52 PM | "Nothing wrong with an 18 year old, not a dam thing! The ones who will do all complaining are older women. Especially ones with no man. They simply cannot compete with a younger woman. A young, fresh, perky and optimistic young women comes into the office and the older women hate her. The old bags will put her through the meat grinder. The caddy mean krap they will pull is unbelievable. I have had 18, 19 and a 24 year old girlfriends recently and they're great!"
im an older woman? i think its wrong and im 21...so what my excuse? | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 6:27:36 PM | Has it crossed anyone's mind that perhaps an 18 year old is too young to be married to anyone? Does any 18 year old really know what they want for the rest of their life?
The age of 18 is just an age the government picked to call a person a legal adult. It does not mean they are an adult. If they lowered the age of being a legal adult to 14, would it then be just fine for a 40 year old man to marry a 14 year old girl? | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 6:33:19 PM |
The age of 18 is just an age the government picked to call a person a legal adult. It does not mean they are an adult. If they lowered the age of being a legal adult to 14, would it then be just fine for a 40 year old man to marry a 14 year old girl
The same would go in reverse for the 40 year old woman to marry a 18 or 14 year old boy in your scenario. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 7:48:22 PM | "What kind of life would she have if she married an 18 year old?"
I married a 19 year old and had a wonderful life for 25 years. A friend of mine same age married a 39 year old and hated everday of it, problem was he got her pregnant right away and she was trapped. He was very controlling and jealous which is usually the case. She finally got out, she's very happy now. Unfortunately he is bitter and miserable.
Point is sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I've just never found an older man to be attractive. I don't consider myself to be shallow, but I do need some chemistry.
" It's almost certain they wouldn't have their own home. Most likely a second hand car that took any extra money assuming there was any extra."
You sound like a man who has to buy women.....how sad
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 8:08:49 PM |
Yep. How very typical. Use the "old bitter woman" shaming card. Haha. Oh...should have I added jealous, frigid and addled to the list too? If you wish. That's as typical as the cries of "perv", "robbing her of her youth", "pathetic" and "It's wrong because I say so, PERIOD".
What some insulting troll says on a message board doesn't change a thing. That's so true. Despite all the shaming and trolling, men will keep preferring younger women. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 8:12:26 PM | Ummm ya. Paedophile. Nuff said.
Ok may b not. There is nothing they SHOULD have in common aside from being carbon based life forms that eat and breath. So either she is REALLY REALLY mature. Which isn't possible. Or he is REALLY immature. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 8:19:49 PM | Oldsoul, I have to agree with DAve1234 on this, to a large degree, and the reason I say this is mainly this;
To even insinuate that the only reason that I might find a lecherous 40 year old man wanting to ROB my daughter or ANY other teenage girl of their youth is because I'm jealous is borderline SLANDEROUS in my opinion. (I odnt' think Dave was saying you're jealous of younger women. I so often agree with your post's, but in this particular case, I think you're making huge assumptions. First, a 40 yr old man isn't leacherous(inordinate sexual activity), based on age. AS soon as you make that determination, you'll find one of your daughters being mistreated by someone her own age. If anything, it's to a young womans advantage to find an older man. He's sown his oats, he's more likely to be faithful; generally speaking, he's more settled, more secure, more financially adept in life, than someone her own age. In other countries, this practice is much more common and sought by younger women. In N.A., it's been considered taboo. But throughout time, the union of older men/younger women has occured with frequency, and much to the delight of the women. Are there incidents that have proven to go astray? Sure. But I have an ex-gf who is now 25, and I'm 46, so it's basically a similar parameter. She's from Brazil and we still communicate infrequently. But my observations are that women here in the US are WAY more immature than women from many other countries, based largely on the social norms we place on young people, which define where they're at on more universal terms.
It's really not so much age as a level of maturity. Young girls here predominantly like men their own age, but I think that's because they're less mature than girls from other countries, and the social conditioning is as such. (Meet a guy in college, etc). Unfortunately, the divorce statisitics bear out that it might be plausible, anyway, for us to reconsider this unspoken rule of thumb. Perhaps because women mature faster than men, it's actually a more adequate bonding. Women in their mid-20's can easily show maturity equal to a man in his 40's, but before someone chastises me, let's be clear... age does not determine maturity. You can be completely immature at any age and I dont' find a man seeking a woman half his age to be less mature than someone his own age who isn't. If anything, I'd say it requires a good deal of maturity to actually pull that off. In one marriage I know of, of 20 yrs, he's 65, she's 45, and they're very happy after 2v decades. He's retired exec from a major cigarette company, she's a european delight with modeling background. WHat can I say-it works. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 8:22:10 PM | Has it crossed anyone's mind that perhaps an 18 year old is too young to be married to anyone? There are women in their fifties whose mind is still unfit for marriage. Who should decide for them? Who should decide if they're old enough to make their own decisions?
And while we're at that, should we keep 18-years-olders from driving, signing contracts, voting, join the military, etc., because they're too young?
Nobody can compel a 18-years old girl to marry. In the same way, nobody can compel a 18 years old girl NOT to marry, even if that somebody doesn't like her choice of husband.
The age of 18 is just an age the government picked to call a person a legal adult. It does not mean they are an adult. If they lowered the age of being a legal adult to 14, would it then be just fine for a 40 year old man to marry a 14 year old girl? If the 14-years old girl said she wants, and the society voted that she can, yes, it would be just fine. You may not like it, but there are many things people can do even if you don't like it.
You know, that's why we have laws, to have a common set of standards. "You" may believe an 18 years old girl is too young. The 18 years old girl obviously believes she's old enough. Why should she live her life according to your preferences?
And for all those who like to call "pedophile" to somebody who is dating/banging/marrying a woman of legal age, perhaps you should be careful of not repeating that in front of them, unless you like to be a party in a defamation lawsuit. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 9:17:39 PM | "If anything, it's to a young womans advantage to find an older man. He's sown his oats, he's more likely to be faithful; generally speaking, he's more settled, more secure, more financially adept in life, than someone her own age. "
So what your saying is the young woman is so pathetic she can't get a young man to be faithful to her. As for financially secure, both of my nephews were at 6 figures by the time they were 28 years old. Would they not be a better match for her. She also has the option to go to college herself and secure her own finances. It's to a young womans advantage to go to college meet someone her own age and grow with him. JMO | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/16/2008 9:37:12 PM | So what your saying is the young woman is so pathetic she can't get a young man to be faithful to her. Why dont' you speak for yourself, rather than others. What I said was clear, and trying to put words in others mouths is foul behavior. If' you'd, for whtever odd reason, care to thus declare the meaning of my statement to include a woman of 18 must be pathetic looking to date an older man, I'd be happy to share pictures of my ex of 25. Your logic suggest the guys of 18 have everything a guy of age has, and she's so pathetic that she can't get guys her age. I just wonder what kind of childhood some people had in order to distort and bring about chaos? Even though some people manage to earn decent wages before they're 30 does not rule out the argueable notion of infidelity and in case you haven't read divorce stats lately, it aint' lookin good for the mainstreamers of society. You obviously didnt' read my post, but decided to pick and choose a few points for barbing. At 51, I'd highly suspect you're among the crowd of women who so abhor the thought of younger women taking men from your pool of choices. AS if they must be pathetically fugly in the first place. Contrare, oh contrare...... AHhh.... but for readers..... this must be very amusing sh1t Edit to add: Dont' tell me.... you're nephews would make a freight train take a dirt road...... | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/17/2008 9:29:27 AM |
(Msg 438) You sound like a man who has to buy women.....how sad
Buy women? A poster asked what would someone think of their 18 year old daughter marrying a 40 year old and I replied the 40 year old would probably take better care of her.
Why would any father want their daughter to live in poverty and the vast majority of 18 year olds who work full time are living in poverty because they have neither the education nor trade skills to get a good job.
Furthermore, they have to set up a household including furniture, appliances, a car, etc. Where do they get the money except borrow it and try to pay off credit cards or do without.
What father would want their daughter living in conditions where she may not have sufficient funds to regularly see a dentist or doctor or even eat properly?
One would choose to see their daughter live like that rather than with a 40 year old because they just can't stand to see a 40 year old getting sex from a young woman?
A romantic relationship is about sex. I'd rather a 40 year old be with my daughter and "worship" her body knowing he is a lucky man instead of an 18 year old who has sex with her and knows he can get any other 18 year old girl if he feels like it.
Which guy is going to treat her better? This is not a difficult question to figure out.
If the 18 year old girl truly loves the guy she has the best of all possible worlds.
As ManeRider writes in msg 441
If anything, it's to a young womans advantage to find an older man. He's sown his oats, he's more likely to be faithful; generally speaking, he's more settled, more secure, more financially adept in life, than someone her own age.
That's why it's better. It's just logical. Both people, the 40 year old and the 18 year old, should consider themselves very fortunate they found each other.
As an aside I was 43 when I met my wife who was 34 and she sure did justice to a pair of jeans. And she still does 12 years later!  | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/17/2008 11:57:31 AM | "Even though some people manage to earn decent wages before they're 30 does not rule out the argueable notion of infidelity and in case you haven't read divorce stats lately, it aint' lookin good for the mainstreamers of society. "
In those divorce stats are plenty of young women who married old men only to find out what a big mistake they made. I have a friend who did just that. JMO but there is not one valid reason for a young woman to seek an older man. A good parent would encourage their child to become self supportive anyway.
"At 51, I'd highly suspect you're among the crowd of women who so abhor the thought of younger women taking men from your pool of choices. "
Now why would you suspect that, because I don't agree with you. First of all, I don't even know any young women wanting old men. It happens so rarely why would I care.
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/17/2008 3:45:58 PM | To me, it borders right on the line of pedophilia. IMHO
Agreed! Just a bit too weird for me in this present day and age. I have a 19 year old son and he has no inclination toward marriage at all. 18 and 19 year olds are just starting to experience life fully, I don't know anyone that age that wants to get married. They don't even know what they truely want!
And to the above poster, I couldn't give a rat's ass whether one guy was taken out of my potential dating pool. I would not be interested in any guy who also desired an 18 year old. I don't have a problem with age differences (normally), it's the fact that she is barely of legal age that bothers me in this scenario. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/17/2008 11:01:35 PM |
(manerider) At 51, I'd highly suspect you're among the crowd of women who so abhor the thought of younger women taking men from your pool of choices (chelsea hou) Now why would you suspect that, because I don't agree with you. First of all, I don't even know any young women wanting old men. It happens so rarely why would I care. Uhmm..... welllllll..... Actually, no, not because you dont' agree with me, but because you'll so argue a point (like argueing with a fencepost) that you'll contradict yourself within the course of two sentences.
In those divorce stats are plenty of young women who married old men only to find out what a big mistake they made. I have a friend who did just that First, the divorce stats you reference have plenty of young women who've married older men...... but then say you don't know any young women wanting older men. So......... (I would ask which answer it is....(plenty or none) but that would only conjur more meaningless debate).
(chelsea hou) but there is not one valid reason for a young woman to seek an older man. A good parent would encourage their child to become self supportive anyway. ^^^^^^^^Just a bit cynical, IMHO. ( There are obviously Jaguars and Cougars in this jungle.) In truth, a man of 40+ either has accomplished goals and reached a level of maturity, or he has not, whereas, the future of a man of 18-20 is still quite undetermined, his abilities still to prove. So, the gamble, therefore, would be on the younger man.
A good parent teaches that age is not a determinant with matters of the heart, and self-sufficiency (independency) is great, so long as it doesn't negate the principals of inter-dependence, and neither have anything to do with two peoples ages. No one suggested that a woman of 18 be solely dependent on a man. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/17/2008 11:37:04 PM |
I don't have a problem with age differences (normally), it's the fact that she is barely of legal age that bothers me in this scenario. The girl of legal age (barely is still legal) obviously is not bothered, so who are you to tell her what she can or can't do?
If it bothers you so much, there is only one thing to do: GET OVER IT. | |
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| 18 year old girl marries a 40 year old man? Posted: 7/18/2008 12:01:57 AM | This could have been one of these Arranged Marriages.. what Country is this poor child from...
In some countries such marriages are the norm, nevermind if the young girl wants it or not... | |
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