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Joined: 11/7/2008
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/10/2008 3:49:42 PM | | I don't put a height restriction, I just ask that it be proportionate to myself. I'm 5"7 so a guy who is 5" or 6"6 just wouldn't work for me (too short/too tall). I do tend to date more guys who are taller, not 100% sure why. Maybe shorter men are too scared of rejection to even bother asking so if gives off the appearence that women like taller men???? | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/10/2008 4:21:38 PM | | Shorter then me? No, that doesn't interest me. As tall as me is fine but a couple inches taller is preferable. I suppose what is short is relative though now isn't it? At 5'8 someone 5'6 would be short to me. However to a woman who is 5'0 tall , 5'6 is not short. There would be a limit on how tall however. I don't think I would be very comfortable with someone who is 6'6 . | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/10/2008 5:17:43 PM | I'm 5'11". Taller and older= Tallyover.
Being a tall woman is as difficult as being a short man. I love to wear heels. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/10/2008 7:13:42 PM | I have dated men as short as 4'11" & as tall as 6'9". When I was younger I had issues about my height, & I didn't like to date anyone taller
than me (I was only 5'3" at the time). But I came to realize as I got older that it was limiting, short-sighted (no pun intended) & that I could
be missing out on some terrific guys, by not getting over it. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/10/2008 7:40:59 PM | UMMM i know that i have lost some dates to being short but all in all i believe i have been quite lucky with winning women over. i realize i am not for everyone but i try to keep a positive outlook, am naturally happy so i smile alot and i keep myself neat and well groomed. i think that helps.
at 5'4" i've had women tell me i'm too short for them but there are always plenty of others who have said an enthusiastic "Yes". i wonder what women would think if i turned them down by saying "no thanks. your boobs are too small." | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 2:46:19 AM | | I'm dating a man who is slightly shorter than me (I'm 5'6") and he is wonderful. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 4:49:11 AM | You have to remember, TO EACH HIS OWN! Everyone likes/dislikes something different. Height means nothing to me and at 5'8" a lot of guys think that's pretty tall for a woman and that matters to them.
Yes, short guys do stand a chance. My Dad is 5'7 and my Mom is 5'11" - yes they've heard every joke in the book, they don't care and have been married over 45 years now. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 5:25:08 AM | | I couldnt care less about the height issue. If a guy would treat me good, i will treat him the same way with love and respect. All I care about his personality and he is a good guy. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 6:20:48 AM | Short Men
Pfftt! this thread is so redundant......it's unbelievable.
This topic has been done to death.....but occasionally gets brought back to life for some reason.
But, I guess short men are just wanting heaps of reassurance on these forums.....JMO | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 6:42:08 AM | ^^^^^
Why do you keep coming to these threads and reading them if you just want to attack its content? If you're not interested in the topic...why not just move on without comment?
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 9:21:10 AM | | Being 5'10" all my girlfriends are short. So when I am with a guy I prefer to look up. Makes my neck balance out between my gal pals and my man :) | |
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SG_86
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Joined: 5/23/2008
Msg: 37 | |
| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 1:16:01 PM | | I'm pretty short at 5'9" - those who don't consider men because of a lack of height are just shallow. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 1:33:46 PM | Why do you keep coming to these threads and reading them if you just want to attack its content? If you're not interested in the topic...why not just move on without comment?
^^^^^^^ This topic has been done to death and is redundant.....
It's against the POF rules to keep posting redundant threads......it's up there with the "nice guy" threads and" why don't girls/guys reply to my emails?"
That's why for your information...
So why do height related threads have more say than other threads? | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 1:59:35 PM | | Being only 4ft.11,most people i meet are taller then me..However i would rather date someone average height..5.10 upwards..My experience has taught me most short men have issues regarding their height...they seem to fire up alot quicker lol. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 2:04:28 PM |
Being only 4ft.11,most people i meet are taller then me..However i would rather date someone average height..5.10 upwards..My experience has taught me most short men have issues regarding their height...they seem to fire up alot quicker lol.
^^^^ This is why I think the short guy threads should be listed redundant and be deleted because we get stupid posts like this one...
I don't really see why short guy threads should be on a dating site forum.......JMO | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 3:44:01 PM | | To start with Ops question two,I date short men if they dont lie about their height and first question last but not least,I think it is really bad if women dont date short men,because you can do almost anything about your look today but not change your height. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 4:47:34 PM | I am 5 10 is that to short for you? | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 5:05:25 PM | I'm pretty short at 5'9" - those who don't consider men because of a lack of height are just shallow.
Anyone could say that your preferences/requirements (and yes you do have them) are shallow as well.
Bottom line is that if anyone for anyone reason is not attracted to us I see no reason to pout like a small child and say "you big meanie" and stomp off. People will not date each other for all sorts of reasons all the time and if something is just not attractive to another person ,I see no reason they should force themselves to be with someone who doesn't float their boat. Many people would like to deny all together the importance of attraction in a relationship, but it is very important , and that is the truth and always will be.
If someone is not attracted to me because I am too tall , too short, too pale, to dark, not enough hair, too much hair, too poor, too rich, childless, single mom etc... then why should I or would I stamp my feet and demand that they "give me a chance"? Why would I or anyone want a chance with someone who knew right from the start they are not attracted to me? I wouldn't want that , because I have self respect , and am no charity case.
So if the older woman you work with, short guy who delivers your packages or redheaded freckled neighbor who ask you out does nothing for you , and you know it, don't force yourself our of some sense of guilt to go on a date with them or think that you are being pc by "giving them a chance". Chance are the people who would take the pity date would be a little cracked in the head to begin with anyway. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 5:17:50 PM | | I'm 5'7". guys my height or a couple of inches shorter are incredibly sexy! | |
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Zain.
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Joined: 9/20/2005
Msg: 45 | |
| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 8:09:43 PM | "So why do height related threads have more say than other threads?"
Who said that they did? these height threads get shut down all the time
You make the descision to keep coming back here nobody is forcing you to post here.
You detest these height threads yet you continue posting on them.
Honestly I think you do it just for attention. | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 9:09:00 PM |
Anyone could say that your preferences/requirements (and yes you do have them) are shallow as well.
Bottom line is that if anyone for anyone reason is not attracted to us I see no reason to pout like a small child and say "you big meanie" and stomp off. People will not date each other for all sorts of reasons all the time and if something is just not attractive to another person ,I see no reason they should force themselves to be with someone who doesn't float their boat. Many people would like to deny all together the importance of attraction in a relationship, but it is very important , and that is the truth and always will be.
I'll take a shot at this one. I think height requirements are much more offensive to men than the many other reasons they might get rejected. For a short guy, I'd suspect that being rejecting because of their height would be more offensive than being rejected for other things that they also have no control over. Here is why (in no particular order).
1) It's more systemic than individual.
-The female preference for male height seems to be pretty universal, though it varies in intensity throughout various cultures. That is, French women and American women both tend to prefer taller men over shorter men...but its possible that French women would only choose a taller man if other things were equal while American women would rather make no choice than to choose a short man. Therefore, we are not really talking about individual choices, but rather the degree to which a person confirms to a social norm (in this case, height bigotry or height stigma or heightism).
2) It challenges the feminist ideal of our modern society which most of us have grown to accept.
-Our modern social ideal says that men and women are equal. It says that men have no right to wield power over women simply because of their gender. However, the idea that a man needs to be taller than his woman...or simply the idea that a larger male is somehow intrinsically better than a smaller male in the eyes of women seems archaic to the point of vulgarity. It reminds us that we are all animals, evolved from apes, but where does that leave a proud short man? I cannot fault them for being offended.
3) It is often based in height bigotry.
-Your post assumes that women are rejecting short men because they cannot be attracted to a short man (even if that short man is taller than them). However, this is not normally the case. In many instances, women seem to reject short man based on stereotypes, peer pressure, and social stigma. If you read any thread about short men, you will see dozens of women say that they don't date short men because short men are rumored to act a certain way (stereotyping). Or they say that they dated a short man who was a bad person and so therefore all short men are bad people (however, they never stop dating tall men because they dated a tall man who was a bad person). Or (like one of the posters above), they say that the men in their family or tall or their girlfriends or short and so they want to distinguish their boyfriend from these other male or female individuals in their life (peer pressure). But the most used excuse that women use for automatically rejecting short men has to do with avoiding social stigma. This is said in a lot of ways, but essentially...it comes down to avoiding social embarrassment from dating a man whom society regards as inferior.
4) Height is completely immutable.
-This is an easy one. Height is something that is pretty much determined at birth. It cannot be changed and so short men who are stigmatized by society have a legitimate grievance.
5) The height paradox.
-Being a short man causes automatic rejection from the vast majority of woman. Lying about ones height causes automatic rejection from many women, but it also gives them an easy excuse for the rejection (it's the lie and not the height). This sort of paradox would upset any red blooded guy. | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 9:14:30 PM |
Being only 4ft.11,most people i meet are taller then me..However i would rather date someone average height..5.10 upwards..My experience has taught me most short men have issues regarding their height...
You've dated most short men?
Also, how do you know whether these men had issued regarding their height or whether they had issues regarding height bigotry? How do you know it wasn't people like you (i.e., judging them based on their height) which caused them to react in a certain way?
they seem to fire up alot quicker lol.
"lol"?
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/11/2008 9:21:43 PM | I think it has to do with reproduction. I took a biomedical ethics class in college. they discussed several topics including reproductive problems etc. Anyways, they gave a statistic in the book for the class that said that "No women, when going to a sperm bank request sperm from short men"
Think about it, they are not ever even going to meet this man, let alone date this person and they are still specifying a tall guy. I think women subconciously see taller men as stronger, healthier, better protector's etc for themselves and their offspring.
I myself have a 5'10 minimum height requirement preference. That said, I have seen alot of guys that were probably shorter than this that were pretty cute. My advice, try meeting women in person, not on a website. If you have alot of other positives to offer, women are going to be more likely to overlook the shortness problem. Also, try looking for women that are on the shorter side themselves (less than your height preferably) | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 9:25:57 PM | ^^^^
Woah, woah, woah.
Wait a second.
This statistic says something very different to me. It's not saying that it's a reproduction thing...it says that it's a deep rooted social thing more than an attraction thing. If this was really about attraction, then the height of an anonymous sperm doner wouldn't matter.
However, this is about social discrimination. Otherwise, why would women demand sperm from tall men? They demand it because they want to reduce the odds of their male offspring from being short and being exposed to the height bigotry.
That (to me) makes more sense than the idea that women are selecting sperm based on whether the men (whom they will never met) will be "better protectors" for them. What does the "protection level" of a man whom you'll never meet even matter? | |
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Posted: 12/11/2008 9:50:16 PM | I've only ever ended up dating women shorter than me. But I've had interest expressed from quite a few taller women, some 6ft. The only women I've ever heard expressed that they loved dating tall men, were 2 friends of mine, who had previously showed a great interest in me, but whom I had declined to get involved with, because I didn't think we were a good match. So personally, I doubt this is a real problem in real life.
I think it's more of an issue with online dating, as online dating sites tend to have height, weight, and age are criteria that you can search for, and so people probably screen out based on that.
RE msg 49 by kitten12:
I think it has to do with reproduction. I took a biomedical ethics class in college. they discussed several topics including reproductive problems etc. Anyways, they gave a statistic in the book for the class that said that "No women, when going to a sperm bank request sperm from short men" That's a shame, because a recent study found that intelligent men have better sperm, and so they are ruling out the many short men who are more intelligent than their taller counterparts.
I think that tall men are going to be phased out by the end of this century anyway, because taller men have more health problems as they get older, and as degenerative health problems are increasing now, especially in the young, eventually, there just won't be that many tall men left. | |
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