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Posted: 12/19/2008 8:22:22 PM | of course you're going to see fewer couples where the guy is shorter than the woman: men on average are taller than women
Exactly! As a species the male of our species is bigger and taller then the female. It's just how we are made. Of course there are always exception , but generally men are bigger then women. To argue against this fact would be extremely foolish.
Well, at least we now know how 26% of the american public still thinks Bush is doing a bang up job.  | |
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Posted: 12/19/2008 8:38:07 PM | | I must have missed something but the male of the species is on "Average" (key word here) taller than the female of the species. Right? Or has the internet led us astray? lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/19/2008 8:52:50 PM | ^^^
Aside from the obvious fact that the internet often leads us astray, yes you did miss something. Both comments that I quoted either intentionally statistically misrepresented, or unsurprisingly misunderstood the point that chucky was making regarding his observations in a typical mall. In either case, neither comment spoke to his statement - for reasons known only to you.
I'm just sayin'
"Stay off the center of the bell curve - dumb people live there." - Anonymous | |
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Posted: 12/19/2008 8:54:23 PM | ^^^
Atleast someone understood my point. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2008 9:33:06 PM | Well, at least we now know how 26% of the american public still thinks Bush is doing a bang up job
'm just sayin'
"Stay off the center of the bell curve - dumb people live there." - Anonymous
Yes you really should stay off the center of the bell curve as you don't seem to realize that you posted in the wrong thread. You comments about your bush make no sense to the topic of this thread.
Like I care what the idiot leaders in your country do! Now please manage to stay on topic!
Now since you seem to foolishly dispute scientific fact then please by all means post links to some credible scientific studies that state or even suggest that the female of our species is naturally ,generally and on average bigger and stronger then the males of ours species.
The definition of average mean something that represents a middle point. Example the average size of a mans penis is about 4 inches. This does not mean that all men have a 4 inch penis. Some may be smaller and some may be bigger , but on average most men are around the 4 inch mark. I hope that clears up for you the definition of average.
EDIT: I really should not be so hard on you. After reading your posting history , all I can say is wow that is just sad. Very few forum participants will so tenaciously cling to one and just one topic of discussion. It is painfully clear that you have a very serious inferiority complex about your height. So sad. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2008 10:07:36 PM | ^^^
First; I was speaking somewhat hyperbolically - so relax. Second; my understanding of "average" is not at issue. it was in fact redirecting other's comments back on track regarding Chucky's post. Third; this thread is neither about the size of men's individual body parts, nor the reasons why I choose to sparingly post, and only to topics that have some interest to me. Forth; relax, I still think you're cute.  | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/19/2008 11:23:40 PM |
Women are simply intimidated by the short man's sexual prowess because they realize that short men make up for what they are lacking in height in... other departments.
This is completely true.
Anyways, I'm relatively short. and skinny. I've got enough confidence to talk to any girl, however I don't find girls who are a lot taller than I am all that attractive. Not to say I never do, but it's not even an insecurity thing, just a preference thing.
The fact is everyone has their own likes and dislikes, some like redheads some like brunettes, etc... Whatever. If a girl isn't interested in you because of your height, then do you really want to be chasing after her in the first place? | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 3:39:16 AM | It's like watching a tennis match. I also got what Chucky meant and am amused at how righteously and indignantly some people have responded. Oh, and I've said this before, but it bears repeating; using Wikipedia for your information wouldn't fly in a classroom, nor should it here.
Before the topic police come out, let me reiterate that no matter what you believe your shortcomings (no pun intended) to be, there are always going to be those out there who aren't interested. It's life. We don't get a guaranteed pass into dating whoever we want just because we're here. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 5:32:30 AM |
IMO~ really short men [meaning under 5'6] usually have a napolean complex. They're too used to yelling [attempting to be macho] and trying to assert themselves.
Sadly, I've found this statement to be true. I remember dating a gentleman about 15 years ago that was 5'4. We only went out a few times but geesh this guy was loud, obnoxious, controlling, crude and highly critical. He was such a cute guy (I thought) until he opened his mouth. I could tell he was trying so hard to exhibit confidence when in essence it came out as nothing but arrogance. I also noticed how angry he would become at the drop of a hat..I'm not prejudiced at all (I'm only 5' tall, myself), but I would much rather spend my time with someone who doesn't have such issues regarding his height. It's just my own preference in prefering to date taller guys just as some guys prefer to date brunettes rather than blondes. Life is way to short (no pun intended) to spend time with anyone that has entitlement issues and many short guys (not all) seem to feel like they've been "cheated" in some way and it shows in their not so appealing personality. Tall or short, I won't date a man that has no confidence in himself.
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Posted: 12/20/2008 10:13:21 AM | Sorry to burst your bubble ladies, but there is no Napoleon Complex. Three scientific research studies have proven this. Studies have actually shown that taller men have more of a Napoleon Complex than shorter men. The problem is that when a tall guy exhibits the characteristics of a Napoleon Complex, women see it as being manly or the alpha male that will protect her. But when a shorter male exhibits these same characteristics he is pegged with the Napoleon Complex, that he is making up for something.
It’s funny that you will never hear a woman say, "I was dating a tall guy and he didn't treat me well and was a total jerk so all tall guys must be that way and I am never dating a tall guy again." Never heard or read that one before. Yet you will hear women say this of shorter men all the time. She'll say, "He had a Napoleon Complex and was controlling so all shorter men must be this way and I am never dating a shorter male ever again." This would be like a man saying, “All blonds are stupid because I dated one who was.” | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 11:06:16 AM | Some women might consdier me short at 5'9, but other than that, there's not average about me. So if women judge me just by my height, then they would be missing out on a lot more above "average" stuff I have to offer.  | |
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| Short Men
Posted: 12/20/2008 12:51:13 PM | I'm 5' 11" and height does NOT matter to me. I have dated men ranging from 5' 5" to 6' 4". I think shorter women are generally ( but not always ) more likely to care about height than taller women or men. Taller women like myelf realize that we would be eliminating most men if we only dated men who were at least x amount of inches taller than us.
It’s funny that you will never hear a woman say, "I was dating a tall guy and he didn't treat me well and was a total jerk so all tall guys must be that way and I am never dating a tall guy again." Never heard or read that one before. Yet you will hear women say this of shorter men all the time. She'll say, "He had a Napoleon Complex and was controlling so all shorter men must be this way and I am never dating a shorter male ever again." This would be like a man saying, “All blonds are stupid because I dated one who was.”
Good point. It is okay not be to attracted to a certain physical trait. But many people will eliminate an entire group of people based a few bad experiences. This often occurs to people who have an "undesirable" trait. Short men, bald men, black men, fat people etc. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 2:18:42 PM | [Sadly, I've found this statement to be true. I remember dating a gentleman about 15 years ago that was 5'4. We only went out a few times but geesh this guy was loud, obnoxious, controlling, crude and highly critical. He was such a cute guy (I thought) until he opened his mouth. I could tell he was trying so hard to exhibit confidence when in essence it came out as nothing but arrogance. I also noticed how angry he would become at the drop of a hat..]
its called short man syndrome & its obnoxious.. usually they just want to have some power over someone (doctors & lawyers have this in my experience & you see it in their actions at work all the time). I have no respect for these people b/c they treat everyone like dirt | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 2:56:58 PM |
its called short man syndrome & its obnoxious.. usually they just want to have some power over someone (doctors & lawyers have this in my experience & you see it in their actions at work all the time). I have no respect for these people b/c they treat everyone like dirt
Sadly, I've seen plenty of tall men with this "short man syndrome". Believe me, it has nothing to do with height. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 3:25:41 PM | Once again there is no such thing as a Napolean Complex
"The Napoleon Complex" - Short Men Are More Aggressive - Fact Or Fiction?
Published May 12, 2007, by Pamela Jean
Due to their small stature, combined with aggressive and hostile behaviors, a resulting belief that "short men" have anger issues has permeated society for centuries. In fact, studies have shown that nearly 80% of the population believe that short men have a complex that results in such tyrannical actions.
But now the so-called Napoleon Complex or Short Man Syndrome - which states that small men are angry - has been put to the test by scientists who have established that, on average, it is tall men who are more likely to become the aggressor in conflicts. The study was done by the University of Central Lancashire. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 4:00:39 PM |
Once again there is no such thing as a Napoleon Complex
This is your opinion and studies can be skewed and bent to whatever the person paying for them wants them to say. This study you are referring to is a study based on opinion and observations. It has nothing to do with scientific fact.
I would say that after reading and participating in so many short guy threads in the three years I have been on here that short guys have a great deal of anger and inferiority issues. Then again that's just my opinion based on what I have seen and experienced. See what I mean? These studies are based on nothing more then the observations , opinions and speculations by the people doing the study. There are no undeniable scientific facts that say napoleon complex does not exist and there are also none that can claim that it does exist. It's all speculation and opinions. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 4:24:49 PM | ^^^
... and global warming is all speculation, and it's debatable that the earth is round..... yeesh
However, it's still my considered opinion that you're adorable. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 4:27:44 PM |
and global warming is all speculation, and it's debatable that the earth is round
Nice try , but sorry no banana. While global warming may be debatable , the earth being round is undeniable scientific fact. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 7:02:16 PM |
I would say that after reading and participating in so many short guy threads in the three years I have been on here that short guys have a great deal of anger and inferiority issues. Then again that's just my opinion based on what I have seen and experienced. See what I mean? These studies are based on nothing more then the observations , opinions and speculations by the people doing the study. There are no undeniable scientific facts that say napoleon complex does not exist and there are also none that can claim that it does exist. It's all speculation and opinions.
This sort of logic only flies with disfavored groups who have yet to "unify". This sort of thing (imputing behavior to people who have a trait that people don't like) was done do gay people too, until there was a gay rights movement and they unified. I guess, until short guys decide to fight the prejudice, this type of faulty logic will continue to stick.
The idea is that short guys are discriminated against and so they are angry at the world. And this anger causes them to treat others badly. And treating others badly is what justifies the discrimination. Do you see how absurd that is?
Chucky is right. There have been multiple studies (done at Universities) about this subject. The "Napoleon Complex" is a social myth, not a psychological occurrence. I've met lot's of aggressive tall men, but I've never heard anyone say that they are "compensating" for something or that they had an "inferiority complex". Why do you assume that a short guy thinks of himself as inferior, simply because you or others do?
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Posted: 12/20/2008 7:05:03 PM |
"I encourage you to go to the mall one weekend and look around at the couples. Tell me how many overweight women you see in relationships and then tell me how many couples you see that the man is shorter. I think we will find here that women are more superficial. You will find more men today looking beyond the physical."
This arguement holds no water men on average are bigger then women.
no offense chuck, but your posts are starting to become whiney even for my tastes.
Well, I got what Chucky was trying to say.
Plus, if men are usually bigger than women, then we shouldn't see so many couples where the woman is fatter than the male?...correct?
So, because men are usually (on average) bigger than woman, you could go to a mall and see how many men are with fatter women versus women with shorter men. I think you'll find that women are more shallow when it comes to body shape/size.
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Posted: 12/20/2008 7:10:20 PM | "This sort of logic only flies with disfavored groups who have yet to "unify". This sort of thing (imputing behavior to people who have a trait that people don't like) was done do gay people too, until there was a gay rights movement and they unified. I guess, until short guys decide to fight the prejudice, this type of faulty logic will continue to stick."
It is faulty logic for sure coming from someone who apparently believes she can figure out what a person is all about just by reviewing his posting history.
"Plus, if men are usually bigger than women, then we shouldn't see so many couples where the woman is fatter than the male?...correct? "
True, I see more couples where the woman is fatter then I see of when the woman is taller. It might have something to do with weight gained during pregnancy, or the fact that women carry more fat cells and put on weight easier then men etc.
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Posted: 12/20/2008 7:41:44 PM | | Bigger = taller not fatter. The topic is height not weight. We're more "shallow" because we don't need to be with someone. It'd be nice but many girls would rather be alone than with a guy they don't actually want. Guys will often compromise just to be with someone. They try for what they want complain when they think girls at their "level" don't agree they're the cat's meow then either remain alone or go "lower" to find someone. It isn't something to be proud of. Girls often complain too but just stay alone since its better than settling. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 7:50:45 PM | ^^^^
This just isn't true.
You are still very young...let's see what you say a decade from now. Overlooking shallow characteristics that have nothing to do with long-term relationships is not "settling". Being pragmatic is not "settling". Looking for a great person, instead of a great lay is not "settling".
I think you'll come to see this with time (as your age reduces the pool of men you could attract). It happens to all women.
Also...the weight vs height thing is a good analogy because men seem to dislike very fat women like women dislike short men. So we can sort of gauge the shallowness of our respective genders by seeing how many men are willing to date fat women compared with how many women are willing to date shorter men.
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Posted: 12/20/2008 8:01:06 PM | Plus, if men are usually bigger than women, then we shouldn't see so many couples where the woman is fatter than the male?...correct?
Lol Bigger as in a bigger frame and taller. Even mens internal organs are bigger then a woman's. Rofl! I can't believe you did not get that.
There are no undeniable scientific facts that say napoleon complex does not exist and there are also none that can claim that it does exist. It's all speculation and opinions.
Selective reading and then going off into a rant over a few words read here and there will not help your cause to appear intelligent jonathan. You obviously missed the part where I said no scientific studies can prove that napoleon syndrome does not exist. I also said, and I will put it in caps to help you out, that "NO SCIENTIFIC STUDIES PROVE THAT NAPOLEAN SYNDROME DOES EXIST". Read the entire post next time. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2008 8:38:06 PM | Short men??? OK lets re-frame this idea. If you think it is a problem...then it is. If you think women do not like short men...then they don't. If you think people hate you because you are short...then they do!
Anything you think bad about yourself you are making it that way. It shows up in your own confidence. If you have confidence that you are the prize...that you are a wonderful man for any woman...that you are worthy of the title..MAN...then everyone will pick up on that. Not all women will like you ...big damn deal...there are more than you can count of single women that are looking for someone like you...if you think you are worth it!
Look to nature great example is the Badger. I have seen many movies in the wild that the badger is busy digging a den or digging for food. A Big ass bear walks in and thinks "easy meal here" until he gets to close. As small as the badger is he will rip the face off that bear. He will turn around and attack the bear...it won't be long before the bear will walk away and the Badger just keeps on doing what he was doing before the bear showed up.
Small packages can be more than a handful. Just get rid of the idea women do not like you just because you are short. I like the idea that I do not have to duck my head when I walk through a door! The other idea of a woman that says she loves to be on her toes when kissing then be the best at kissing and make her knees weak...that is more important than your size. | |
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