j-roc
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/8/2006 7:16:21 PM |
And so that I"M answering the thread. Apparently a Christian is a guy that can't take criticism from people that don't share his beliefs. There thats my piece on it. I second that. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/9/2006 6:03:12 PM | Isn't a Christian someone who attempts to say the truth(as he or she perceives it) with the kind of 'agape' love described in 1st Corinthians 13...I don't think that it's without significance that the first quality listed in that passage is PATIENCE......so play nice kiddies....there may be someone who isn't in touch with our Fathers love who will get the wrong impression....it takes a while after becoming a Christian to accept that our humaness....so remember the 'family' name and how we represent it...perhaps personal emailing could address some of the issues(not all) that we post 'here'..............and now....even tho technically 'some' of you may not 'deserve' them ....here are some smiley's for y'all to share..................: glow:     ........grrrrr....I've just spent too much frustrating time with these smileys....not only do I have to ''re scroll sideways each time(that's my fault...I need a larger monitor)))...but I click on one....and it doesn't show up properly...........and the biggest frustration of all.....couldn]t find the smiley for ROLL EYES........ROLL EYES....ROLL EYES....YUP ...I sure did want to put a lot of them on here................just wanted you to know that when 'I' send smileys....it really is a labour of love....esp since I'm not familiar with them..............    | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/9/2006 6:04:40 PM | Christians are people too. No person is without fault , afterall ,we are ALL human ,with human frailities and faults. No person likes to be mocked or ridiculed when they are discussing a subject that is dear to their heart.
With all due respect , I would have to disagree with this assesment :
And so that I"M answering the thread. Apparently a Christian is a guy that can't take criticism from people that don't share his beliefs. There thats my piece on it.
It is not the Christian part of us that makes us question why others ridicule our statements , but the human part of us. To put it another way , just because a person may be a Christian, doesn't mean that they are not without human emotion. When someone mocks another human being it is still hurtful, whether it is aimed at a Christian or non-Christian.
Can't we all just get along?
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 4:34:40 AM | We sure can.
Just that some Christians feel the need to get in people's face with it and thats just wrong.
Religions just get people worked up, at each others throats and cause trouble. All over stuff that can't be proven. Not worth it.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion with being attacked.
If "some" people don't like certain comments made they rather than retort with the predicatable insult, just ignor ehte person. Retorting will only result in MORE comments, etc. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 5:34:26 AM | | All of it is still way off topic. A Christian forgives when forgiveness is sincerely sought. Does`nt hold grudges and is not so easily fooled the next time. That`s part of what a Christian is. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 5:55:46 AM | God daily asks: Just take one small step toward me and I will meet you there wherever you are. No matter how far you have strayed.
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You know us Christians just do that because we can. But God never lies  | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 6:29:48 AM | | Someone that knocks on your door and gets mad at you if you tell them you aren't interested (those missionary guys) | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 6:41:03 AM | Message: Someone that knocks on your door and gets mad at you if you tell them you aren't interested (those missionary guys)
********************************************************************* Wait a minute. I`m still trying to figger out what that means. lol
Yes missionaries are Christians who hopefully go about doing good, sharing the gospel and selling a coupla bottles that doctor goop. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 6:46:41 AM | lol
I had a couple of incidents where Mormons and then Johovahs Witnesses just badgered me to death. When I said I wasn't interested, the Mormons yelled at my door and got the neighbors looking around and the Witness guys kept telling me how I'm a sinner and will go to Hades-like places, etc. That doesn't inspire my enthusiasm to rush off to church lol | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 6:51:20 AM | Message: Someone that knocks on your door and gets mad at you if you tell them you aren't interested (those missionary guys)
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Missionaries or evanglists aren`t supposed to get mad if you say your not interested. Or for that matter anyone going up to a door and knocking. It`s not to antagonize but to draw the person out and hopefully have a meaningful, life altering moment. Anyone who gets mad is too set in there ways anyway, not flexible enough to consider anothers point of veiw and there fore not worth keeping the open for anyway.
Now you know what we go thru at church | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 7:09:21 AM | | its someone that feels the need to believe in something greater than themselves to give their lives on our little mudball purpose. Cuz there must be more to life than paying bills and growing old with loved ones. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 7:14:55 AM | | Did that make sence to you cause it sure didn`t to me. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 7:21:04 AM | hmmm, yeah thats tricky.
Probably means that some people feel like there's "got to be more than this" in life. Looking forward to seeing Heaven and dead relatives gives them a hope and faith of something to look forward to?
Without that faith, they would be very depressed people (perhaps). So "something more than paying bills" may mean that. As in: I can't ONLY be on this planet to do this mundane stuff and simply die and be forgotten? There MUST be more to it.
I think MAYBE thats what he meant. Thats assuming I even made sense myself. ha-ha | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 7:46:39 AM | Interesting Confession by artandsoul:
The truth is that to be a real Christian, ie, to act in a Christlike manner and to live up to the standards and principles that he laid down for His followers, is in many ways an infinitely difficult task -- especially in an age in which religious teachings of every sort have been so relentlessly discredited. To be a real Christian is to struggle constantly against the current "wisdom of the age" and to be considered a fool by many and mocked accordingly. It’s never been difficult for those with the key of David (Rev. 3:7)
The Grace of the cross is sufficient… thank you!!!
things are no different than they were when Jesus walked the earth.
I can agree with this part, as it is scriptural! “Nothing new under the sun…”
Here is the hang up with the so-called-Christian and this statement is what religious people would have you believe… that it is difficult to be a Christian. What a lie from the pit of hell and shame on anybody who would spread such hypocrisy. This is another doctrine designed by false teachers who would make the community temple the most important temple even above the body or home.
What was posted early stands out clear now!!
(I posted earlier) Yes in his name we are cleansed of our sins and iniquities but to be Christ like is easier then most would have you know. Just except your in need and invite Jesus teachings to become your new way of life and most of all repent from your old life. However you do not need to belong to a church where you ask the leaders to pray for you as you can pray right now… for your self… and God will hear you just fine.
Just how easy it is!!!
(I posted earlier) Now, having said that, I have to point out... It’s a personal relationship that evolves change and a good mentor is the safest way to go. Look for leadership that has fruits of love, peace and joy, but don’t loose sight of how you have your own personal journey to work out. In time, in Jesus name and with the help of the Holy Spirit you can and will commune directly with our Father/Creator. He cares not for the title you call yourself… it’s all about being sincere. Just fined, a private place and ask Him, in Jesus name to meet you where you are. You will get results without having to call your self a Christian or step foot in a church. It’s not a title but a relationship opportunity that Jesus provided us so we can know the one who made us and who loves us all… I call Him my Father Creator since that is what He is to me and yes He sent His son to die so I would know the difference between right and wrong and the sheep’s from the goats.
Why most we complicate it… it’s simple black and white stuff and either you now it or you don’t. Brother I had to stop you in your tracks but you should ask your self why it is so hard for those who you fellowship with to stay on track with God.
[A whole lot of religious doctrine… by the sounds of things…) Thanks for helping me prove my 1st post… God truly does work out all things for good who serve him]
(I posted earlier) We have to watch out and warn each other of the wolves and goats that could cause us to stumble and loose are crowns. Beware of false teachings and teachers. To be a priest or pastor you just have to go to school and study and you’re promoted to a leadership position without the approval of God. Man is electing men to represent God and we have no idea what we are doing.
Last point: If it’s easy and simple and we leave out all that could or might go wrong then it’s much easier for prospective followers to do so. Handle the issues as they come along... behind close doors. Let the Holy Spirit do the romancing of the next generation of princess and princesses. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 7:59:07 AM |
I think Christians are people of differing levels of faith. In my experience most are normal people that don't push too hard or ever mention religion.
Some are overboard in their blind faith and they make me uncomfortable.
Others have no faith at all and they too are quite vocal about it.
However I would like to see a Christian make an argument that doesn't involve a reference to the Book or thier definition of what they think someone said.
What I'm trying to say is that the non-Christians always have this stuff in hand to show there proof of things, but the church people just go on blind faith, the word of the Lord and a Bible in their hands.
I'm not berating anyone, but thats not enough proof for me, either. But I'd like to think I'm open minded enough to see everyone's side. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 8:01:53 AM | It’s never been difficult for those with the key of David (Rev. 3:7)
The Grace of the cross is sufficient… thank you!!!
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The church of Philidelphia in Rev. 3:7 represents brotherly love. Jesus` grace , He says , is sufficient.
I`ll leave the rest of that for Art to untangle. He is too versed on the subject. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 12:29:44 PM | Members of the church of Philadelphia have the key of David!
Where you tiring to add something there?
I fail to see your point... are you trying to make one?
Your statement about leaving the rest for Art to untangle.
Sorry honey your way off base... if you have something to say why don't you say it?
Otherwise don't waste our time with half thoughts and pointless post.
How about it... Art says it's hard to be a Christian... I say it's easier then he makes it out to be with the following words!!
Art... "To be a real Christian is to struggle constantly against the current "wisdom of the age" and to be considered a fool by many and mocked accordingly... is in many ways an infinitely difficult task"
My Jesus frees people of what ART writes about. He frees them from burdens, oppression and persecution and weariness.
Jesus says...
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Mathew 11:29 and 30
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 12:36:13 PM | re: your prior post:
Interesting Confession by artandsoul:
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 12:58:42 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Art, your ears must be burning
Art... to be considered a fool by many and mocked accordingly.
I'm sorry but I'm nobodies fool... and I don't get mocked like Art has described herein.
Just because I love Jesus doesn't mean I have to subscribe to Art's deadly
views of salvation or his twisted reality between him and his maker!!!
Don't call me a Christian and band me together with those types please!!!
I'll stick with the church of Phil were we don't curse the word of GOD!
Your view could be totally based on what you consider
as being hard so-to-speak but I prefer to be positive and
look for the bright side of each situation to find the blessing
in it. That is the righteous way!
It's our attitudes that will affect our altitude with GOD.
To say something is difficult is a lack of faith in it being easy!
It's as easy or hard as your mind tells you to perceive it.
Therefore I say it's easy!!!
Tell us everybody... Is it hard to be a Christian?
What's your take?
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 1:27:37 PM | telling me how I'm a sinner and will go to Hades-like places, etc. That doesn't inspire my enthusiasm to rush off to church lol
Understandable, very understandable, sunshineface2. My question is what would inspire your enthusiasm to attend church, besides an attractive single member of the opposite sex, of course?
TallDarkNRich, I appreciate what you're saying and your positivity, but art isn't exactly off-base, either. Jesus was mocked in probably the worst way one can be mocked: while he was dying. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 1:41:04 PM |
Just because I love Jesus doesn't mean I have to subscribe to Art's deadly
views of salvation or his twisted reality between him and his maker!!!
I have to disagree with your statement here. Art puts together some interesting points, not that I agree with all he says.
You claim being a christian is easy, well the start in faith thats very true.. Maintaining a life worthy of following Jesus' teaching is another, and thats what Art is talking of..
Phil 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
1 Cor 9:24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.
Why would Paul have to beat his body if salvation was so easy??
Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
I think you should take this to heart... | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 1:52:21 PM | Nevercannezzer
It sounds like you are into self abuse. hehe
(And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.)
The Lord stands ever ready to defend His own | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 1:56:03 PM | | ^ haha, not at all, but we have to count the cost as Christ said... | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 1:56:30 PM | I have to agree with nev on this one. Art and I often disagree as well. But he has many excellent, and always thoughtful points, and from what I've read, has never tried to force anyone to "subscribe to Art's deadly views of salvation or his twisted reality between him and his maker". So there's no need to get vicious.
Tell us everybody... Is it hard to be a Christian? Is it hard to be a Christian? No. But the Christian life can be difficult at times. That's a little different. I don't say "Gee, today is tough, I'm not gonna be a Christian anymore". In fact, history has shown that Christianity thrives in times of persecution. | |
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| What is a Christian
Posted: 1/10/2006 2:15:00 PM | | Nev is right that we need to count the cost but what is the alternative? The 12 said it best when confronted with Jesus asking them if they too would turn back and there answer was "to where shall we go?" | |
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