| | Why a virgin?Page 15 of 19 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19) | | You mean there are still virgins past 14 y/o??? LOL learn some thing new every day I do. LOLOL | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 7/7/2007 2:55:17 PM | That is a definite double standard, especially when the man is trying to sleep with you.
I prefer people with a similar amount of expierience to myself (ie. less is better), but I'm willing to accept a reasonable amount of experience... of course, my definition of "reasonable" might differ from other peoples.... | |
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Posted: 7/7/2007 6:24:38 PM | | geezus, what is it with these backwards ideas some guys have? they can whore it up as much as they please with no consequence and no stigma, but a girl who's anything less than a virgin on a pedestal is damaged goods. i wonder if perhaps these men are fearful that a woman who's had a bit of experience might not be satisfied by their little boy insecurities and pencil dicks. much easier to keep a virgin happy, she has nothing to compare a guy to...and she's probably also a dead starfish in bed. *rolls eyes* | |
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Posted: 7/9/2007 5:29:12 AM | I have seen many replies through out this post and 2 most common things happen the guys who really would like a virgin and the many who sayt they don't care. Really i have been surprised that so few of the middle have shown up. Now for me i have had virgins in the past when i was younger and like i said before girls that are do have a tendency afterwards to be very clingy to much for me. but hey if you like it what ever floats your boat. Yes most guys don't liked to be compared to past lovers it scares some if you are confedient in your ability then who cares right. if she likes it or not if she does you have a happy love life. If not but she still likes you she'll just f*** your best friend who is a slacker who might have what she wants. but you have a girl on your arm every night like i heard my step father say every time he would go out. i might go out but who is it i come home too. that was his sign of love to my mom.
on the topic i don't mind if she a virgin or not no diffrence to me but i don't want a gang bang queen. Even though some would say it don't matter it does, cause the many don't leave you when you break up. on every guy or girl when you sleep with them remember you also sleep with every person before. so take care i could go on. I have see friends relationships come and go for one reason or another. that is why i am looking for some one who has no hang ups or expectations comming into a relationships. relationships are to be learning exp. for both having your hopes up high then not seeing them met will destroy a good thing. take things as they go not how you want them to be.
god bless and for heaven sakes have fun life is short | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 9/6/2007 8:09:09 PM | | This is cool i didnt know this stuff was on this site. I still got the "Big V" and proud of it, not that i havent had the chance iv been able to plenty of times. I guess its the way i was brought up i dont know iv'e never been in love and i think that sex is "love making". I have never met another virgin or some willing to admit it, in today's society its almost a burden to have, but shit im not different from anyone else. It would be much nicer to find a virgin but no such luck, the number of ppl a chick has slept with is a big deal to me i dont want a whore. So ya if you know anyone 19-24 send em my way lol. | |
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Posted: 9/7/2007 1:41:05 AM | Hey Ceringa, I'm also happy to admit it ;). I am nearly 30 and still a virgin. I guess I kept my virginity for a different reason though. I didn't start dating til 18 and immediately fell in with a much older guy who didn't pressure me into it,.. we lasted 7 years and by then I felt like I really wanted my first time to be with my husband.
I don't have any desire to screw around or "try out" different guys before I get married, and certainly wouldn't do it afterwards, so there is no real urgency for me to lose it til marriage. I just think that in this day and age as we get older and older there are so few "first times" that we do anything.. so I would like to keep that for someone I truly love and who loves me back ;)
I admit that being a virgin can be a real burden when dating. Most guys get turned off, or even worse are the ones that get turned on and decide that they should be the ones to "initiate" you out of your antiquated views. It's something that I hate revealing about myself because it's so personal, but at the same time I cannot keep it quiet, because, well. most guys expect it. Basically whenever I date someone I really like, about a week into things getting serious I have to sit them down and give them what I now call my "virgin confessional talk" and then hold my breath and wait for them to stay, or walk out the door. I've been lucky in that most guys I've given the talk to stay, but a lot of guys out there just don't want to deal with the frustration of a virgin :(
However if there is one thing I've learned though the years is that I really had to stand by my own beliefs. Yes, at some points in my life I have to stand back, re-examine and re-order my values, but if something is such a core part of me, then I don't let anyone else coerce me into giving up that value, however stupid or unreasonable they think it is. For after all, in the morning after I am the one who has to live with my actions. So hold fast to your values Ceringa, I am sure you will find someone soon in the future worthy of your attentions, you aren't the only one out there ;) | |
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Posted: 9/7/2007 3:24:19 AM | The last time I wanted or had a virgin...I was one myself, back in my teenage days....a long time ago...in a galaxy..far, far away....
...There's grown men out there that still want virgins? I hate to rain on parades, but finding a virgin is going to take a guy into very unlawful territory these days... | |
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Posted: 9/7/2007 8:09:14 AM | Marry a virgin.....That is a selfish thinking, if men think about that, they should not have sex before marriage too!!!
It is always happen in China/Macau/Hong Kong/Taiwan. Those bad Chinese men just think about to marry a virgin...that is also a reason I hate to deal with Chinese men. For me, I don't care to tell the others that I am not a virgin anymore, coz I believe the right man should loves my personality, not my virginity.
Forget him, find a better guy:) | |
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Posted: 9/7/2007 6:10:49 PM | I'm conscientiously limited from marrying anyone with a past unless whoever deflowered her has died since her last encounter with someone but love spending time with my sisters in the faith.
I asked my master after searching for a wife for many years if he couldn't give me a wife then give me a sister and just a few weeks later I was asked to call the woman that I commited myself to care for as a member of my household till death and 1 year later she became eligable so at the age of 50 I married and lost my virginity and it lasted 3 months.
I can prove to you that he was exactly right to require that and wrong to change his mind and prove it so clearly that you won't be able to wiggle out or loophole search your way out of it. You should go back to the one who deflowered you. | |
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Posted: 9/7/2007 10:22:33 PM | | this thread kinda reminds me of a guy i know...he's a few years younger, kinky as h*ll, and with a pretty intense sex drive. i never expected a relationship from him, but what gets me is his most recent gf. he's 29 and she's 17, and until 2 months ago she was a virgin. he waited about 6 months into their relationship before he got the prize, and most of that time he was trying to coax me into a fling while telling me how much he loved her (um ya). now that they've had sex, she still doesn't know what she's doing, and for a guy with his kinks she's apparently kinda boring...so again, he tries to persuade me. what i can't get is why he has this obsession with virgins, when he's such a pervy bast*ard and those innocent little girls just can't do it for him in bed. really, she's just arm candy...poor little thing is going to get cheated on a lot. | |
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Posted: 9/7/2007 10:53:28 PM | | The most important sex partner you will ever have is yourself,, our sociey needs a projectile released enima of sexual science and health information. When a woman knows how to satisfy herself sexually she enters relationships informed and chooses her partners in the same manner ,, there are women out there my age that have never achieved an orgasm because someone told them that it was a sin to touch their body parts ,, and unfortunately this religious based idiodicy has destroyed their full capacity to appreciate their sexuality to its full potential... use it or lose it is very true physiologically and as with all new partners couples should engage in protected sex or know their partners history ,,,not judge their performance or love on past experiences but revel in the dance they make together ,, believe me if a guy sends that vibe out to a decent woman she is done like dinner and he loses out on being with a very perceptive woman,, intuitive woman make the best lovers cause they read the energy in the molecular fusion,,, hmm | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 9/24/2007 6:37:03 PM | I believe that if the individual who proposed the question (male or female) was indeed a virgin he/she has some (I'm using "some" loosly here) appropriate ground. However, if the asker is not a virgin then there is no good reason to say such a thing.
Overall in our society it is "generally" more acceptable for men to sexually active then women, this can be traced back to the beginning of modern humans (alpha male anyone?). However in modern society with both sexes having equal standing this conflicts with the hardwired instincts that we all have in our minds. This translates into a pride issue for men and knowing that you're not the first is a bit of a blow to a mans pride. Going into a marrage knowing this, for some this can force the individual to swallow and put their pride aside (which is very difficult for people). I don't know how women view men who've slept around before when they haven't but I'm assuming its generally the same for a man who's partner slept around when they havent.
Overall I view sex as more important than just 2 minutes of fun and personally if I can wait until marrage I expect my partner to do the same (but it wouldn't be the "end all" by any means). | |
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Posted: 1/20/2008 11:13:33 PM | I don't think there is anything wrong with being a virgin past a certain age. Why do people have to be so judgemental about choices people clearly make for their own personal
reasons? Why does society shove pathetic cliches down our throats like 'sowing your wild oats before settling down' and 'sex is a part of life'. People conveniently forget that we are all living in an era of AIDS and countless STD's and yet have the audacity to put down virginity, writing it off as some kind of psychological problem or hormone problem or ugliness and not see it as strength of character. There is more to a relationship than sex but society inundates us with sex from every angle imaginable and this has turned everyone into sex addicts. I read on here someone's comment that the reason that men aren't virgins is because women do not place a value in male virginity. Well I for one do. If there are any male virgins here, I feel your pain and do get in touch. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2008 11:33:55 PM | | I agree and feel the exact same way garagenumber | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/21/2008 12:11:33 AM | Ill rather marry a hoe with a lot a experience so when I say baby u wana ride this black stallion upside down she wont look at me stupid.
Looking for virgin in this day and age be ware u may end up sexual predator list for child molestation | |
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Posted: 1/21/2008 1:56:38 AM | I'm a male virgin, and I plan on staying that way until I'm married. But I don't put too much importance on whether my girlfriend or even future bride is a virgin. It's "preferable", but that's about as far as it goes. I'd be happy with dating a single mother. I guess my only concern is whether or not I'd be "up to standard" against her previous experiences.
I'd be interested in knowing what women think about male virgins. I know that a lot of men prefer virgins, but is it true that women, even virgin women, prefer experienced men? Do any women find virgin men appealing? | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/21/2008 2:00:23 AM | Absa;
You had a very lucky escape there honey. A control freak like that could have brought you nothing but grief. Nuff said!! | |
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Posted: 1/21/2008 2:06:13 AM | | If a man marries a virgin he never has to worry that he isn't as good as the other guys she has had. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2008 11:28:01 AM | | For people here to assume that virgins, (referring to the ones past age 21 specifically) know nothing about sexuality is another ignorant stupid assumption most people have. With all the rampant premarital sex and 'test driving the car' before you marry it you would think it would bring down the divorce rate but it sure doesn't. What does that say? If someone is a virgin well into their 20's or 30's it is usually for a reason, and probably not because they can't "get laid". This person is in my opinion is more capable of having a healthy relationship that someone who was a follower and did what was expected to fit it because the relationship is not going to focus on sex until it evolves into that. Just because some resisted the peer pressure to exchange body fluids with someone by the time they reached a certain age doesn't mean there is something wrong with them yet society makes it out to be so tragic and so shameful. This is just sick! We have been brainwashed to think it is ok to act like sex addicts. I also think its strange when guys say, "I'm a virgin but I don't want my wife to be one because then we wouldn't know what to do in bed". It's not brain surgery! Penis goes in the vagina! Why wouldn't you want your wife to be one if you're one? It makes no logical sense. Even worse are the guys who aren't and then expect to marry a woman who is. There is a special place in hell for those men. Anyway if there are any old virgins out there with all their teeth intact then I would be interested in getting to know you. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2008 11:43:54 AM | | I would be skeeved to know that the man I end up marrying has had his man root up inside a dozen women who he just used as a sperm recepticle in his "sowing his wild oats" phase of life. I could never stomach that kind of behavior. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/24/2008 9:56:08 PM | I see nothing attractive about a 30 year old virgin. However, an 18 to 20 year old virgin girl is more valuable and more desirable as a wife or even as a sex partner than an equally attractive non-virgin girl.
Young men place a premium on virginity. Young women place no premium on virginity in a young man and probably prefer young men with some sexual experience.
Therefore, logic dictates that a young man that is seeking a virgin should have sexual experience. | |
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Posted: 1/27/2008 9:56:00 PM | I think it depends a lot on the context of the situation and a person's moral values. Clearly for some people, for religious or cultural reasons, virginity is something to be treasured and also it is a better state to be in than having engaged in pre-marital sex. Also in some religions, virginity is praised because it shows self-control over the sensual and instinctual parts of our nature and our orientation towards the Transcendent.
I think in modern Western society at least, the ideal of virginity before marriage is somewhat questionable. The evidence from sexology studies shows for example, more than 90% of men and around 65% of women seem to engage in masturbation at some point in their lives. I think one would find it hard to deny that masturbation is a form of sexual activity, even though it is not done with someone else. Likewise, a very large number of people have engaged in some kind of sexual activity in adolescence and early adulthood, but which may not have been full sexual intercourse. I wonder then how meaningful it really is to demand someone to be a 'virgin' upon marriage when:
1) There seems no unawkward way of 'proving' someone is a virgin (save knowing they have an STD)
2) In all likelihood the vast majority of prospective marriage partners have engaged in some form of sexually-oriented or physically intimate activity (including kissing, viewing porn, oral sex, frottage, or masturbating) even if they never had full physical sexual intercourse before getting married at some point.
I think rather than expecting virginity as an ideal it is more realistic and sensible to expect someone you are engaged to, to be faithful to you during the period of engagement and not engage in sexual activity which is only self-focused or a form of cheating, and any form of intimacy during this period should help cement the emotional bonds which led to the couple getting engaged in the first place. Full sexual intercourse should be celebrated by the couple once they have been properly married, especially if their religious values or beliefs mark the consumation of marriage after it has been contracted as the true point at which it begins in all its depth and intimacy.
In moral terms, I don't think being a virgin makes you a better person, and not being a virgin does not make you a bad person. I think a person's moral compass is more complex than that. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/30/2008 1:31:18 PM | | that is because they are insecure about there selves lol if you knw what i mean a virgin has not had any so they are all ways the biggest | |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 8:12:49 AM | | I don't do pre-marital sex and I would love to date a virgin. It's not a deciding factor, though. I don't think she's any less of a virgin if she masturbates. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2008 2:56:01 AM | This seems like the exact opposite of most men I know..
Infact they are afraid of virgins haha, then again most people I know have been with one another.. yuckyy
Other than that, it sounds almost... selfish to me.
Men like that wanna be the first the "virgin girl" has ever had, who knows if it's just cause they have this illusion of first time love making on their noggins
People end up doing shit in their life, and it should be accepted, after all, you've accepted him enough to become engaged to him in the first place!
And what's wrong with shoppin around a little before you buy? that's another indication of how you know that person is who you wanna be with
He sounds insecure to me as well
Regardless I would have acted the same way if I were you, but I woulda punched em the **** out if I were you, haha, that person certainly is a lucky duck
Ahh, what thoughts at 6am
This miiight sound a little off a few hours from now.. | |
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