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| | Why a virgin?Page 5 of 19 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19) | kloey,
Are you not following along? Let me break it down for you..
I lost my virginity when I got married, because that is the Lord's Will.
But after the pop of the cherry, that left me not a virgin anymore.
My point is...... Men want to go around and have sex, but expect HIS WIFE to of been a virgin when then said the 'I DO'.
Hello, in todays world.. Most have been married and divorced at least once. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/2/2006 11:00:51 PM | I never had a virgin are they better than the rest  | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 2:32:04 AM | I honestly don't find it matters, not a plus or a minus for me, I do not discriminate on the basis of experience.
My latest theory about dating is that romantic fools self-disqualify to go and find people of their own worth(lessness). I am sure he will not only get what he deserves (perhaps simply loneliness), but that you will find a man who will treasures you for who you are and not (what I would consider) something superficial and unimportant. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 2:48:08 AM | Wanting a virgin is a childhood fantasy that goes away with time and maturity
good luck
angelo | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 3:06:44 AM | I can understand that slutty women on this site resent that men prefer virgins. After all no matter how trashy a woman is she prefers that a man not think of her as less valuable than a girl that is not a slut. Of course she knows she is less valuable, but she doesn't want to hear it.
It is much more difficult for me to understand the men on this site that are critical of virgins or of men that prefer virgins. My guess is, but I am not certain, they are lying in order to curry favor with women. Perhaps they think it will improve their chances to have one. If that is so, how sad to be so desperate. Nevertheless, I do admit the possibility that many men may not care about a woman's prior sexual history and simply cannot relate to men that do. | |
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Rake
| | Joined: 3/12/2005
Msg: 106 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 8:11:01 AM | | carldfeen, you dont realize this yet but its actually you that are lying to yourself in order to soothe your fragile ego...it really ok, no matter what anyone tells you, you matter...but you will learn this as you grow up... | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 8:37:06 AM | I dated a virgin once for 5 months and had to end it because I couldn't deal with the sexual frustration. It's one thing if you're super-religious and want to preserve yourself for marriage, but that's seldom going to work unless both parties are like-minded and virgins... I'm anything BUT a virgin and I would hope my significant other is as well, it makes the learning curve in the bedroom a little easier 
I equate virginity with sexual ignorance: if you've never done it you can't possibly be all that good at it no matter how much enthusiasm you possess. I've also often found virgins to be more sexually repressed and inhibited as they grow older, less willing to experiment, and just plain boring. 
So not to worry, not all men are hunting for a virgin, the Lord can keep 'em as far as I'm concerned  | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 8:50:18 AM | You were a virgin. You married before you were ready to do so. Divorced. Slept with some other guy. Started dating this one guy. Spent the weekend with him. After doing the deed, he was tactless and told you that he wanted a virgin. You became upset. You now are miffed with men, in general, who want a virgin.
Every man who wishes to marry a virgin isn't upholding a double standard. Some men who wish to marry virgins are also virgins. My issue with what you've been saying is how you've generalized it, like all men who want to marry a virgin are whores (please, excuse the vulgar language).
So, yeah, I'd say I've been following along fairly well. | |
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sddude
| | Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 109 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 8:51:33 AM | This is how I lost my virginity .
I dated my wife (RIP) for 2 years before I married her , we were both virgins , during our honeymoon we were so nervous , did not know how to go about it , where the hole exactly was , what angle to put it in , it was shear terror , it was painful for both , it was a really dry situation and the friction caused redness and pain , the screams of both of us could probably be heard down to the next floor in the next floor , we felt extremely stupid and wondered if it was supposed to hurt and be dry like that , it took us a week to try it again , still hurt , after a few month were were as horney and slutty to eachother , at least 3 times a day for a couple of years , boy I miss her .
after her I got a girlfriend , she was a virgin too , she seduced me first , I knew what to do , and how to do it , same deathscreams came from her , another girl around 6 months ago stayed in my house after a party , she got in my bed and asked me to take her virginity away , she seemed to know what to do , she told me she was a porn addict , no screams or pain from her .
Done 3 women in all my life and all 3 were virgins . I am celibate now , scared that my tool will inflate a girl , the last one was trying for a baby without telling me , she told me she was on the pill and did not like condoms , that was a lie ... that is another story though . | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 9:33:53 AM | The desire for a virgin has to do with "retroactive jealousy", which is very common.
Note: I don't necessarily agree with all this ... but this is where it comes from. Also, this can apply equally to men and women (just flip the sexes in the following):
We simply all want to feel special. Simple as that. We are inundated with messages about how "magical" romantic love is ... the Western ideal of Love is so overwhelming and all-encompassing, synonymous with spirituality and light and goodness.
If your lover has had sex with numerous partners, it diminishes the "specialness" of sex. You start feeling like just a number. One in a long line of other lovers. Just another notch on the bed post. Also, it highlights just how emphemeral love and sex can be. It is a reminder that she in fact had all these same feelings before, for someone else, and it all went to shit.
If she has been in love numerous times in the past, it diminishes the "specialness" of being in love.
If she has swallowed (there is nothing special about you at all. She swallowed for all the other guys too.), or done this or that, it diminishes the "specialness" of all these things.
I used to agonize over all this a great deal when I was much younger, but alas age has finally taken the edge off of some of these feelings. Yet still, just the other night I popped on a "mood" CD with my girlfriend and we were getting frisky when she said her previous boyfriend loved this CD. Being fully aware of how irrational retro-jealousy is, I simply told her he had good taste and continued on ... incredibly, when things had gotten really hot and heavy and I came up for air, I suddenly remembered what she had said and noticed the music again. I grabbed the remote and flipped it to the next CD !
I admit it is totally about being selfish and insecure ... ha !
It is not enough for me to be the best all around.
I want to have the biggest penis.
I want to have made love to her the slowest ... the fastest ... the softest ... the hardest ... in the most unusual position ... at the highest altitude ... the lowest ... the strangest location ... in front of the most people ... the most times in one day ... and on and on. And that's just sex.
I want to be the handsomest, the sexiest, have the biggest muscles, the nicest butt.
I want her to love me more than anyone she ever loved before.
I want us to explode with passion and lust and love and merge with the God-head and spend all eternity in a loving sexual embrace.
Maybe I am incredibly insecure, but I would be lying if I said I did not want all these things. I think a lot of others want this too. Hell, maybe it's not even so crazy to want this afterall. What is crazy is if you let it screw up a good thing. | |
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Rake
| | Joined: 3/12/2005
Msg: 111 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 9:41:32 AM | | I've been saying this for 3 pages now....virgins are for fragile egos. you dont need a PHD to figure that one out....just common sense... | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 11:31:20 AM | | My ego is fairly stable, but I wouldn't mind having a virgin. Granted, that might make things a little touch and go, but way back when, people still had to have the first go around. | |
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Rake
| | Joined: 3/12/2005
Msg: 113 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 11:34:06 AM | | your case is an exception Kloey | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 11:36:41 AM | Kloey, there won't be too much difference honestly... the only difference is made from the person themselves, their behavior and how much they care about you.
I'd give "the win" to a virgin who was caring, understanding and patient (and taking notes) to a person with lots of experience who just didn't give a damn and thought they were god's gift.
As for touch and go... well, isn't that all men? You touch'em and they're ready to go!
ok, maybe that's just me...  | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 11:41:47 AM | Sounds like he was insecure and hypocritical, or possibly just getting cold feet.
Of course, from a practical standpoint there's some sense to saying that a person should have always used protection. There are a lot of STDs. Not all are detectable. through standard medical tests.
I've had girlfriends explain to me how they slept with guys without protection but it was okay because x, y, z.
I don't believe it, and no thanks. | |
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cjwc
| | Joined: 12/26/2003
Msg: 116 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 12:48:27 PM | | Wow, that is an insane case. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 1:47:36 PM | If people were just upfront about what they wanted out of a relationship from the start this would save alot of time. If it is important to you that your partner is a virgin then look for that and be honest when you meet someone about your expectations. If you are a virgin and you want to wait until marriage be honest about it as soon as possible to the person you have started dating.
Communication about your expectations with regards to sex is important. Be upfront and true and fair to yourself and others. No one wants a game player. | |
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Rake
| | Joined: 3/12/2005
Msg: 118 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 2:15:14 PM | | What men desire is a virgin who is a whore. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 3:03:46 PM |
I can understand that slutty women on this site resent that men prefer virgins. After all no matter how trashy a woman is she prefers that a man not think of her as less valuable than a girl that is not a slut. Of course she knows she is less valuable, but she doesn't want to hear it.
Could yopu possibly be more judgemental? Seriously... this is 2006... There is nothing wrong with a woman who is sxually aware and sexually experienced! No more so than a man- would you call a man who's had sex a slut as well?
I mean in the end, aren't there more important things to look for in a person than whether or not they've bumped uglies? I think deciding whether or not to date someone based on something so trivial is just shallow.... I mean I've been blown off by guys when they find out just how inexperienced I am, and it sucks- It's not like I'm a prude, just haven't had an enticing opportunity yet.... a lot of guys don't seem to get that (some do)... seems you're either a prude or a slut and there's little in between- like someone said earlier.... the Madonna/Whore deal... Just as I'm far from being a pure/innocent Madonna, a woman who's had sex isn't necessarily a 'slut.' Sexuality is part of life. If men can experience it, why isn't it okay for us to do the same? Sure.. if a guy/girl has been with 50 people... that might be an issue, but a woman who's been with a few guys.... I don't see why that should be a problem.... The experience can be an asset... | |
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Rake
| | Joined: 3/12/2005
Msg: 120 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 3:07:38 PM |
why a virgin?
cause they come in handy in cases where a guy needs to make a sacrifice to the gods... | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 4:15:25 PM |
seems you're either a prude or a slut and there's little in between- like someone said earlier...
I disagree. I know we all like to bash men, but give them a little credit here. Most men, especially older ones, realize that a woman can be somewhat experienced without being a whore. And men closer to my own age are fully aware that most women they will meet will have, at some point, been married, which makes them neither a virgin or a whore; just someone with life experience.
Personally, I believe that most men are much smarter, and more aware, than women tend to give them credit for. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 5:51:22 PM | | Its all about the mental orgasm. I know that most here have not had one. The physical orgasm is good but...... Talk about enlightenment. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 7:10:40 PM | People can spout whatever garbage they wish and that is what most of the posts are. These are some facts. The following can be obtained from the web site of the Center for Disease Control (CDC). Much of the data is obtained from high school questionairs. I don't where or how they obtain the rest of the data.
According to the Center for Disease Control (CDC) for women that have sex by the age of 44, the following are the number non-virgins (defined as women that have had sexual intercourse) based on 54 million women.
By age 16 42%
By age 17 58%
By age 18 71%
By age 19 80%
By age 20 85% (Obtained from smooth curve ploting)
By age 21 90% (Obtained from smooth curve ploting)
By age 22 93% (Available from CDC web site a month ago, no longer provided)
By age 23 95% (Obtained from smooth curve ploting)
Engineers are trained to fill in using smooth curve plotting. It is easy and in this case,with data given, accurate within 1%.
So in effect, if a woman is going to ever have sexual intercourse then 19 out of 20 will have done so by age 23. So after that age, it is really a moot question. You may as well assume the lady is not a virgin.
One other fact. Because after the age of 18 there are so few virgins and because many men prefer virgins for someone they marry, being a virgin gives a young lady a very big advantage over non-virgins in finding a husband. It is simply a matter of numbers.
As for the ignorant people on this site making disparaging remarks about virgins or about men that prefer virgins, you don't have my I.Q. and you certainly don't my logical reasoning ability. All the tests show I rank in the top 1% in logical reasoning. I consider the source and discount what you say as just garbage. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 7:14:15 PM | | Are you telling me to date a 16yo? Thats messed up. | |
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zendy
| | Joined: 12/6/2005
Msg: 125 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/3/2006 8:00:08 PM | | It is a scientific fact that if you go without sex for over a year you can consider yourself a born again virgin. | |
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