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| | Why a virgin?Page 7 of 19 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19) | [Could yopu possibly be more judgemental? Seriously... this is 2006... There is nothing wrong with a woman who is sxually aware and sexually experienced!]
Slutty behavior, just like being an ex-con, makes you less desirable and, arguments and claiming that it should not matter, will not change that. With quite a few men it doesn't matter, just like with a few employeers, being an excon may not matter. However, it is a matter of numbers. Past the age of 18 there are few (20%) virgins and more than half the men want them. Law of supply and demand; virgins are much more valuable and desirable.
You played around. You can still get a man, but one less desirable than you could of had if you hadn't played around. You don't like it; you think it's unfair. I understand that you do not like the facts of life and I won't argue; you may be right; however, it doesn't change the fact that you are less in demand because you slept around. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/16/2006 7:21:57 PM | ^^^ You are entitled to your opinion Carldeen but please do not make it sound like your beliefs and attitudes are a fact. It is your perception. I personally think finding a really great connection with someone is a rare thing (kiss to my honey) and when you find that gal you are not going to write her off if she is not a virgin or perhaps you will but I find that a little sad. You need to live with your life decisions and no one else though so be true to yourself.
Do men searching for virgins actually ask women if they are virgins? Do you just cut the ties there if they are not? What are the women's reactions? Personally I would laugh my head off. Sorry that's just me. This is a question for all the guys. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/16/2006 8:53:55 PM |
Law of supply and demand; virgins are much more valuable and desirable.
Not always true- A LOT of guys seem to be a little disturbed/upset about me being a virgin... Like something's wrong with me if I haven't had sex yet or something... | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/16/2006 11:21:24 PM | All I can say is that the only man who has any place in saying that he wants to marry a virgin is the man who is a virgin himself.
It seems to me you know what you want. If I've read your profile correctly you've prayed about it considerably. Just have faith. You're an incredible woman, and any man would be lucky to find you.
I agree with you that sex is intended by God to be kept within marriage. I have also never been married. You do the math. But know this, I also understand that the very foundation of my Christian faith requires that I not bind myself or others to the past. When I'm in a relationship, I never ask. It doesn't matter. What matters is how we live our lives now and in the future. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/16/2006 11:48:58 PM | You played around. You can still get a man, but one less desirable than you could of had if you hadn't played around. You don't like it; you think it's unfair. I understand that you do not like the facts of life and I won't argue; you may be right; however, it doesn't change the fact that you are less in demand because you slept around.
Maybe you should be picky since your only 22, maybe 22 year olds should not have many notches on their bed posts, but your looking at a frame of mind, as opposed to how much sex someone's had...slutty behavior can come from virgins and some of the most tactful and classy behavior from women who've dated for years....you can't place a frame of mind into that equation. Some of the most horrendous acting and dressing women have claimed to be virgins. So are we talking about amount of sex or number of sex partners?
When I was 22 I’d probably had a lot more sex than most girls my age, but that is only because I was married for two years (and as a complete and total ignorant virgin bride…) And did you know that the IN thing to do now to ‘remain a virgin” in girls your age group is to give oral sex? They do it on a regular basis like handing out mints! When they aren’t doing it with guys at random, they do it with their female friends….But hey, their “virginity’ is intact so good luck with not catching every STD imaginable from your virgin bride on your wedding night….
and to any virgin reading this who is classy and has self respect I didn’t not mean to offend any of you and you need to do what feels right for you and be proud of it...however I was totally shocked about the things young men and women are doing, just to be able to hold that title as some sort of "award"...if they are doing the stuff they brag about, they shouldn’t get to say that their virgins because it's simply a technical issue at that point. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/18/2006 11:03:36 PM | I was a virgin up until 2 mons ago, and I'll tell you that dating was hell, as soon as the guy found out..lol because I obviously wasn't giving it up on the 1st 2nd 3rd 4th date and so on they ran fast very fast.
Kerrymh, at 28 I believe you made right decision to give up your virginity. Now this is my personal opinion and I do not have any facts to support it; therefore, if someone can show me studies, facts, and logic to show that I my opinion is wrong, I will change it. Statements and opinions without facts to support them will not be enough. If I was 30 and met a 28 year old virgin, I would be suspicious; I would think that she probably lacked hormones or had other issues. I believe I would, for that reason, devalue her over an equal 28 year old that had a limited amount of sexual experience, but certainly, not one with a lot.
Now that said, I wish to marry a virgin; however, I am seeking someone up to my age of 22, not someone older. Therefore, I place a very high premium on a girl that a virgin over a non-virgin. Young unmarried non-virgins have made a choice to have fun and sleep around. But is has a price. I and many other young men devalue them. For many other guys, it makes no difference. However, young virgins have the advantage. They can choose guys from either group. The much greater number of non-virgins must choose from only the smaller second group unless they greatly lower their standards. If you understand the law of supply and demand (which I am finding that many people on this site cannot comprehend), you will realize that, if other factors are equal, virgins get the more desirable husbands. | |
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stevn
| | Joined: 12/22/2005
Msg: 157 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/18/2006 11:09:09 PM | Would you be able to tell any more....??.... In ASia, virgin = good luck.. I know. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/18/2006 11:21:28 PM | [quote} Not always true- A LOT of guys seem to be a little disturbed/upset about me being a virgin... Like something's wrong with me if I haven't had sex yet or something...
Jezika, I believe you do not understand men. Guys do not treat virgins fair. When a guy finds out you are a virgin, he will give you some derogatory look or comment, because praise is not the way to get into your pants. Also, for most guys you meet, that will be their primary goal, not marriage. So, if you don't put out, they will not hang around. However, is that a big loss?
Now also you should realize that while most young guys will place a premium on a virgin over a non-virgin if seeking a wife, other things are important too, such as looks. I also place a premium on looks. So, if a girl and I were otherwise compatible, I would choose a slightly non-virgin and very pretty girl over a considerably less good looking virgin. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/19/2006 12:36:53 AM | Do men searching for virgins actually ask women if they are virgins? Do you just cut the ties there if they are not?
D Girl, that is very good question and there is no simple answer, but I'll try. Firstly, if I was ten years older, I would not ask you; I would assume you are not and for reasons I explained in a prior post, it would not matter, unless you were a slut and I don't believe you are.
Secondly, when I state that I and other young men place a premium on virginity, I mean for young ladies 22 and under. I am not looking for gals older so I can only surmise how would feel about someone 25 when I am 25 or older. My guess is, as long as they had sexual intercourse with only 1, 2, or 3 guys, it would not matter. Therefore, age makes a big difference.
Thirdly, at my age and for gals 22 and under that I might marry, would I ask? I'm not certain; it would depend on my impressions and how enthused I was about her. The more enthused, the less likely. I will give you an example. A couple of days ago, I met Kelleyisnice on one of the forums. I called her and Saturday we will meet in person for the first time. Read her profile; I'm going to assume that she is a virgin; I will not ask. Later, I might ask and I would expect her to be truthful. Assuming that we click and are compatible, and she is only a little non-virgin, I would be disappointed, but that wouldn't stop me from marrying her. It might for someone I would be less enthused with, but not Kelley.
Now just suppose, she is not a virgin and she ended up lying to me about it. In that case, when/if I found out otherwise, I'm not certain the marriage would survive, because it would be based on a lie. If my wife to be lied about something so important to her future husband then that means she cannot be trusted. I do not want a wife I cannot trust. Although, we have not yet met in person, from her profile, her posts in the forums, and our emails and phone conversations, my impressions are, Kelley is truthful and can be trusted.
Finally, the truth is, if Kelley and I really click, it is more likely than not that I will never ask her. I believe Kelley is a virgin; however, even if she is not, I am certain she is only a little non-virgin and since, in either case, I would accept her, perhaps it is just as well that I do not ask..
I hope that answers you question. | |
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ya472
| | Joined: 8/8/2005
Msg: 160 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/19/2006 8:48:10 AM | ..
Not always true- A LOT of guys seem to be a little disturbed/upset about me being a virgin...
A couple of possibilites:
1) He is disturbed.
2) He won't be getting any.
3) He doesn't believe you. (his problem)
4) If someone hasn't scored, he isn't man enough.
5) What is a virgin?
6) "Are you really older than 16 ?"
7) "I don't know what I am doing, and she won't be able to teach me."
8) "I hope she doesn't ask me if I am."
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/19/2006 8:52:59 AM | | There is not alot of them out there. I never met one. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/19/2006 9:21:41 PM | I think it would be interesting to know if men's ideas of wanting to marry a virgin have changed as they have aged. For instance, was that your viewpoint at the age of 16, 20, 25, 30, etc? I could almost bet good money the older someone gets the less they care about the virgin issue.
If anyone at any point in my life really wanted to be with me only because of one factor - whatever that factor may be I would never date them. I want to be treasured for all my qualities (thanks honey  he loves all of me). | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 4:10:08 AM |
A LOT of guys seem to be a little disturbed/upset about me being a virgin... Like something's wrong with me if I haven't had sex yet or something...
Jezika, what about my opinion? Or, does my opinion not matter? I intend to marry a virgin or at least be my wife's or future wife's, first and only. To me it's much like buying a car or a house. I prefer the new over the used. But, that's just me. I'm aware that many people prefer things second hand. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 4:28:05 AM | | I believe age make a difference. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 4:29:40 AM | The most OVERRATED and OVERHYPED aspects of all human existance, are the concepts of virginity, and celebacy. Just exactly how impressed am I supposed to be with someone NOT doing something.
Oh I never learned how to swim, and I'm so proud.
Oh I never learned how do drive, arn't I good.
Just exactly how big a trick is it NOT to have sex ??
Have these people got potental lovers pulling at them all the time ?
Marry a virgin ? Reject her if she's not ?
How shallow ! | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 4:36:43 AM |
Have these people got potental lovers pulling at them all the time ?
I'll let you answer you own question. What do you think? Do men wish to have sex with me? | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 4:48:41 AM | | You have GOT to be kidding me ! | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 5:01:44 AM | | If you aint culled one out of the heard yet, that's your pereogative, but don't expect me to be overly impressed. | |
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other
| | Joined: 10/7/2004
Msg: 169 | |
| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 5:06:18 AM | It means they are still controlled by their mothers. My advice...stay clear of them.
Doug | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 5:56:42 AM |
It means they are still controlled by their mothers. My advice...stay clear of them.
Doug, the truth is, I do listen to my mother. You might say she is best friend. However, I'm not controlled by her. And, if you wish to stay clear of me...well, I'm sorry if I'm not good enough for you. I suppose you can do a lot better than me. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 6:03:05 AM | | Real men know what is important in life, can recognize character, aren't hypocrites and are completely confident so as to not be concerned by a woman's past. A dear friend of mine when discussing this issue said he had no use for little virgins.......there is something very sexy about a man that is just so sure of his own strength and value in life!!!! | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 7:09:03 AM | If you have decided to be a virgin and stay one until marriage, then I could see why you would want to marry someone who has made the same decision.
HOWEVER, if you have slept around and expect to marry a virgin wife that is just such a double standard and completely barberic. Of course perhaps there are virgins out there who would want a very sexually experienced man. The difference comes when someone expects you to be one and judges you when you are not one yourself.
Then again I do believe there is someone for everyone out there it just might take some longer to find them than others. People want what they want and we have to respect their decisions especially if it doesn't affect our own lives no matter how old school they may sound. Good luck to everyone. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 8:44:50 AM | oh hell
i lost my virginity when i was 15 where where where was all this insightful INTERNET advice then??????
a good many of you are wacked
i'm feeling superior now and that's a great way to start the weekend. thanks | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 10:25:34 AM | | I would like to maybe f*ck a virgin if I had the chance, but I'd only marry a woman I loved and if I loved her, it wouldn't matter if she were a virgin or not. | |
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| Why a virgin?
Posted: 1/20/2006 10:46:54 AM |
Well, I'm sorry if I'm not good enough for you. I suppose you can do a lot better than me.
Oh, I don't know about that. You seem like a nice enough person. Way the heck too young for me, but nice enough.
However, if I encountered someone equally charming, intelligent and good looking as yourself, and she was, oh, say 28 or 30, I'd still back off and strongly reconsider if I found out she was a virgin.
I guess I'm just weird. There's no way I'd want to play training wheels for anyone. | |
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