grog27
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Joined: 2/25/2005
Msg: 26 | |
| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/3/2006 11:05:15 AM | " 'I agree. It's really nobody business unless your Africian American. I mean it's they club. Just like it's no body's business who the KKK decides to vote for the their man of the year. '
'So who did you vote for?' "
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/3/2006 11:35:09 AM | | sparda, please for the love of God get over it! The only people who are holding blacks down are people like you who contribute to the victim mentality. | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/3/2006 9:36:48 PM |
sparda, please for the love of God get over it! The only people who are holding blacks down are people like you who contribute to the victim mentality.
Face it, whites HAVE victimized black people. They have told black people that we are ugly, stupid and inferior. They have told black people that we have NO history and had none until the white man delivered us from our 'primitive environment.' They constantly tell the black youth that they are from an sub-human stock that has never contributed anything worthwhile to civilization!
Add this to the fact that the system has made it virtually impossible for blacks to have the knowledge and unity to survive without depending on the white man's system and maybe then you can understand the mental slavery and torture blacks (especially the youth) must face on a day to day basis!  | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/3/2006 10:15:28 PM |
Face it, whites HAVE victimized black people. They have told black people that we are ugly, stupid and inferior. They have told black people that we have NO history and had none until the white man delivered us from our 'primitive environment.' They constantly tell the black youth that they are from an sub-human stock that has never contributed anything worthwhile to civilization!
Could you show sources, incidents and actual proof that this is happening? | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/4/2006 10:12:00 AM | | Yup Sparda, its whiteys fault, we go around telling black youths that all the time. Could you explain to me why there was 1650 murders in Jamaica last year, with a population of 2 million almost exsclusively black? Was that whiteys fault as well? | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/4/2006 10:57:01 AM | | People need to just admit that the world has been indoctrinated to believe in white supremacy and black inferiority. If they wonder why blacks are so angry, they should look no further than the media and economic influence as well as the distortion of black peoples history to make black people look bad. Not to mention the attempted genocide of black people (particularly in Africa) going on even unto this day. If whites and other non-blacks continue to live in denial about the black predicament, blacks will continue to be angry and for good reason. Period! | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Disgrace of the Year'
Posted: 1/4/2006 11:14:53 AM | Those are your words, sparda. With all the blockades lifted above reason, what keeps anyone down in today's society is the individual. Each person is expected to perform at a certain level. Some choose not to even participate. Too many success stories for me to buy into your flawed logic.
What some families need to do is make an attempt at holding their families together. For the male to be ever present in the lives of their offspring, and hold themselves responsible for their progeny. These families need to embrace to their sons and daughters. Cut the chain of teen births, gangs, drugs and violence. These, in my opinion at least, are not created by any factor other than the parents of these lost souls.
Children will repeat whatever information you give them. They are hard wired to do as you expect them. Remember what you learned in kindergarten. When you point a finger, there are three more coming back at you.
Louis Farrakhan is a disgrace to his people for perpetuating this hate that reenacts century old language that holds each one of them down where he can keep his eye on them, and his hand in their purse.
Good luck. | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Disgrace of the Year'
Posted: 1/4/2006 12:21:47 PM |
Louis Farrakhan is a disgrace to his people for perpetuating this hate that reenacts century old language that holds each one of them down where he can keep his eye on them, and his hand in their purse.
uh.... I don't like ol' Louis either, but I don't think his life is a reflection on other dark-skinned people in any way, shape or form.
He's managed to use the media to get some gold, just like many other folks of different colors, by claiming to be helping those less fortunate than himself. He's just a different type of "televangelist". I'm sure there are some people who live a more decent life by following his teachings, although they are certainly more about having a chip on one's shoulder and being ethnocentric rather than tolerance and love of one's neighbors in the final analysis...
Does this sound like some organized Christian religions to anyone (else?)?
Is this anything more than taking a page out of Pat Robertson's or any of the other right wing religious extremist's books? | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Disgrace of the Year'
Posted: 1/4/2006 12:48:54 PM | I don't like ol' Louis either, but I don't think his life is a reflection on other dark-skinned people in any way, shape or form."
I think it is a reflection on the people who support and praise Farrakhan...
"He's managed to use the media to get some gold"
he used and continues to use his own people to get the "gold".... | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Disgrace of the Year'
Posted: 1/4/2006 1:03:16 PM |
Is this anything more than taking a page out of Pat Robertson's or any of the other right wing religious extremist's books?
Farrakhan preaches to the African American that the white man is the cause of their problems. I think he should be charged with racism and deflamation of character.
What would be the outrage is Pat Robertson got up and said the same about Africian. Americans?
When Jimmy the Greek said what he did about African Americans he was fired. | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Disgrace of the Year'
Posted: 1/4/2006 1:12:45 PM | I wonder why Farrakhan isn't concerned for the slaves that exist today in African nations..and sparda if you notice these are not white slave masters...
"black Africans are bought and sold in two North African countries. In the Islamic Republic of Mauritania, black Africans continue to be enslaved by their Arab-Berber masters."
"Black Africans in Mauritania were converted to Islam more than 100 years ago," says Mohamed Athie, Executive Director of the American Anti-Slavery Group, [and]. . ."the Koran forbids the enslavement of fellow Muslims, but in this country race outranks r eligious doctrine. . . Though they are Muslims, these people are chattel: used for labor, sex and breeding."
http://members.aol.com/casmasalc/african_slave_trade.html | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Disgrace of the Year'
Posted: 1/4/2006 2:08:14 PM | Louis Farrakhan was a protege of Elijah Muhammad who climbed up in the organization by publicly calling for the death of Malcolm X in "Muhammad Speaks" after Malcolm exposed the impregnation of Elijah's secretarys by Elijah himself.
The organization they were a part of had nothing to do with traditional muslim beliefs and if it had not been for the disgraceful state of race relations and deprivation of public education to blacks, it could never have even started.
Picture American society treating minorities as trash... then ask yourself: if you keep letting trash pile up and never clean your house, don't you expect maggots and flies?
Louis is a maggot... but if our society hadn't reduced people to the level of garbage, Louis couldn't survive.
If blacks feel they are given a fair opportunity in our society, they won't listen to guys like Louis anymore. | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Disgrace of the Year'
Posted: 1/4/2006 3:07:30 PM | | I disagree. Sometimes it is easier and more comfortable to play a victim. My Irish ancestors were victims. Damn it, I demand retribution and compensation. | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/17/2006 7:36:04 PM | | Farrakan builds his empire on fear, hatred of other races like whites and jews, lies, and anti-semitism. Those who follow him are young, naive, and very brainwashed. To think that he would be lauded is an abomination in the eyes of God. | |
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bie111
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Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 47 | |
| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 8/14/2008 5:26:34 AM | Louis Farrakhan is a STRONG BLACK MAN. Farrakhan is an important voice in black America and the world all over--important in the sense that millions of black folks are interested in what he has to say--and second, that he is someone whose community work with black men has been constructive where many other efforts to reach them have failed. But the simple truth is, Louis Farrakhan is not the problem when it comes to racism in this country; nor is he any real threat to Jews or whites.
Can we get real for a moment ? What ability does Farrakhan have to do any white person any harm, or any Jew for that matter ? When was the last time those of you who are white had to worry about whether or not your Farrakhan-following employer was going to discriminate against us ?
To me, white people just use Farrakhan so that they can divert attention from institutional discrimination, institutionalized white privilege and power, and the way in which white denial maintains a lid on social change, by creating the impression that everything is fine, and whatever isn't fine is the fault of crazy, militant black people, who follow crazy and hateful religious leaders. | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 8/14/2008 7:59:13 AM | Ole Louis is not a threat to me. But.....some of his followers could be.
The Nation of Islam is a cult. And members of it, plus members of offshoots, or groups similar have murdered whites just because they were white.
And I know, I know. That never really happened. Because only white devils are even capable of doing such a thing. No black person has it in them to do it.
Wasn't it the Nation of Yaweh? Or the Yaweh nation that had blacks in the early 90's killing and cutting off the limbs or white people, so that menbers could become part of their brotherhood? | |
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NERO1
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Joined: 3/8/2008
Msg: 50 | |
| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 8/14/2008 9:19:13 AM | The NOI has helped a lot of black men straighten out their lives by changing bad living habits , granted, but IMO it comes (or it came) at a cost to them also. For that matter we could also say becoming a "straightedge" neo-Nazi skinhead "helped" a lot of white kids who previously were just your typical drunken Irish louts or meth-addled trailer kids. It caused them to straighten out their personal bad habits and addictions, granted, and take more personal responsibility and such, but at the cost of instilling in them bizarre and nonsensical racialist beliefs which will quite possibly continue to haunt and hinder them later in life even if they eventually do grow up and leave the herd.
To mainstream orthodox Muslims, Farrakhan's NOI is considered a heretical quasi-Islam at best. More of a black American separatist movement, wearing Islamic trappings, than any truly Muslim movement. True Islam teaches racial / ethnic equality before a singular God (no "sons" of god, etc, just one, as in Judaism also).
It does not remotely allow for off-the-wall theories like black men were the "original men" from whom a mad scientist "grafted" other human beings, the "white devil" in particular.
NOI teachings are totally bizarre and ludicrous. Furthermore, tell a true Muslim that two black Americans, W.Farad Muhammad (who was of questionable "blackness" in any case) and Elijah Muhammad (nee Clarence Poole), were actually prophets of God, and see the reaction you get. NOI is to orthodox Islam what Christian-Identity is to orthodox Christianity.
True Islam's shahadah (ie, the basic declaration of faith) is, in Arabic, "Ash hadu alla illaha ill Allah, wa ash hadu anna Muhammadar Rasulullah" -- which means, "I testify there is no god but Allah, and I testify that Muhammad is God's Prophet". To suggest there were any other prophets after Muhammad is anathema and blasphemy to any true Muslim. Therefore right off the bat the black American Muslims (such as Farrakhan's NOI, or the black supremacist / prison gang 5%'ers Nation of Gods & Earths) are rendered heresies, or cult / "offshoots", at best.
They could have picked SO many other better candidates for African-American person of the year. It's a truly absurd choice, IMO.
What about , for instance, one very notable 'presumptive' Democratic presidential nominee??? (And if they were worried at all about the fact that this nominee's mother's not black, come on.... Farrakhan physically appears quite "whiter" than Barack, and also Barack's father was actually BORN in Africa, thus rendering him a TRUE African-American -- unlike Farrakhan whose people have likely been in America for hundreds of years and therefore have only a tenous connection to Africa, at best). | |
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