| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/5/2006 7:58:48 PM | | Monty Python's "Holy Grail." Scene about burning a witch. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/5/2006 8:03:08 PM | According to my ex husband, all women are witches~ ee hee hee | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/5/2006 8:04:53 PM | | pffffffffft just turn him into a purple frog | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/5/2006 8:05:58 PM | | Thank you Feral, I never watched Monty Python, no wonder I was clueless......(no comments on my being clueless please LOL) | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/5/2006 8:22:46 PM | Well, there goes my next post... 
Kidding. Actually, I think you'd like Monty Python. Some really funny stuff, and they're not shy about lampooning religion. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/5/2006 8:24:17 PM | Wow, went to dinner and buy shoes and look at all the comments....
Thank you all, by the way - very informative!
Lonte: “Most Older Irish 'Witches' would consider themselves Christian rather than Pagan”
Hmmmm, I am mostly Irish (frm Cork Cty). A bit of American Indian thrown in for good measure. The strong intuition runs in my maternal family. I just called a girl friend (Overland Park) today who said she had just been thinking of me 15 minutes before, and was surprised I called. I told her that her telepathy was picked up...
Scott Cunningham got 2 thumbs up, so he’s the next read.
Ferel recommended, "Pagan Ways" by Gwydion O'Hara” – hey, I’m on page 79!! But I think a quick re-read will be necessary because I’ve let it sit a few days. Half Price Books, yeah!
Per Lonte: “Most good practioners are rather solitary people, who, in many cases also have fairly strong psychic abitities” So, both solitary and a bit psycho, oops, I mean psychic.
I might have potential yet!
SFL: “spellwork, ……. is not something to be taken lightly or dabble in. There are energys out there that can be called on, and if not done in the proper way you can cause yourself as well as others problems.”
I hear that. I know this may sound odd, but I’ve carried with me a shield of sorts – I have a protection aura I guess – I was associated with an evil person once and am like the only one who came out unscathed. I believe my God is a greater protector than his conductive evil. I have no fears. I got the Big Guy on my side. But I do heed your warning, thank you for your concern.
Now, one or two more book reads and I might be ready for some enchanting evenings...
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 3:32:36 AM |
Got the broom, got the cat, sink like a stone......can't find my pointy hat....and try and stay way from Christians with kindling and matches.
Sorry to confuse you SFL. I was sure this comment was a reference to Monty Python's Holy Grail. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 4:31:54 AM | No problem Nomad, it was actually a response to Nergel (and this might be part of the Monty Python thing, I don't know)
Pointy Hat .. Broomstick .. Cat .... floats on water .. burns well ... = WITCH | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 5:23:43 AM | | So tell me, how do you become a witch? Can anyone be one or is it a predetermined/predestined? Can men be witches? If anyone can be one, are there prerequisites? | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 8:06:01 AM | Everything depends on what you classify a Witch as
To be a 'Witch' in the Celtic Method, you have virtually no restrictions on who can be a 'Witch'
As you get into the more esoteric side of things, and if you decide that Pyschics can also be 'Witches' there is definitely training and dedication to be encountered at levels you would not think of at this stage
Whichever way you decide to go, probably the most important thing is to have a totally open mind
Try to avoid getting caught up in the 'commercial' aspects of 'Celtic' Witchcraft
That is big businesss now, wheras 'Witchcraft' was never a business, it was a 'Craft'
There are some good books out there, but most are just good as paper to light fires with
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 10:21:48 AM | There are some good books by Silver Ravenwolf, also there is a book called "drawing down the moon" which refers to a few types of beliefs but mainly gardenerian(ism?).
Otherwise there are several good sites online you just have to see the forest through the sleeze. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 11:18:39 AM | Obviously the more you read, the better able you become to weed out the junk.
It's like anything else you are going to have opinions, thoughts and teachings that come at you from all sides, it is up to you (whoever you are) to weed through things.
As has been said before keep your mind open.
As for can men be witches too, the answer is yes. The term witch is non gender specific.
Otherwise there are several good sites online you just have to see the forest through the sleeze.
Lady-fair ...hahahahahaha I love that line! | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 11:38:17 AM | | SFL I can't take credit for it, I stole it from the movie Hitch...only there they were talking about men HAH | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 4:44:24 PM | Being male, I don't know if I should take umbrage to that. Knowing males, I see how true it can be.
So tell me, how do you become a witch?
You read, you learn, you practice the Craft. Simple as that, actually. Of course, whether or how one is recognised as a witch depends on how knowledgeable, sincere, and effective one is.
Can anyone be one or is it a predetermined/predestined?
It's pretty much up to the person. There are folks with a talent or "knack," but it takes dedication and a serious intent to do and do well.
Can men be witches? If anyone can be one, are there prerequisites?
Yes, men can be witches, just like women. Well, not exactly like women, having different parts and plumbing and all... As for prerequisites, open mind, open heart, and the ability to concentrate. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 5:22:57 PM | | what about women during the menses thing??? | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 5:36:36 PM |
what about women during the menses thing???
What about them? Not sure I understand the question. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 5:36:55 PM | | what about that thing? Me so confuzzled. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 7:24:22 PM | Witches/Wicca/whatever you want to categorize are not specifically pagans, but pagans CAN be witches or have wiccan beliefs. This is also part of the misconceptions arising from people who don't know a lot about either of those belief systems. Pagans are not automatically witches.
And to the person who feels that witches don't believe in God back on page one should really do a little bit of research instead of the mindfeed organized religion (mostly christianity) pounds into the brains of it's own 'cult' members. Quite a few wiccans, witches and pagans see God in everything, calling themselves pantheists. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 8:43:42 PM | witches are just like everyone else, they are sinners. I use to be into witchcraft. Many today call it 'New Age'. I was into meditation and things of the mind. I even dwelved into the Necromicon. Folks, this stuff is not for you! Please dont get into this. It will warp your mind and distort reality in a bad way.
The truth is (according to the bible), after someone dies, they dont haunt or float around in some between world.(btw, Our reality is the between world (Heaven and Hell)). The only spirits that roam the earth are the fallen angels posing as peoples dead mom or family member, etc, etc. And yes, these fallen angels are aka, demons. These beings are powerful compared to us and nothing to tool with. Possession is very real and they do possess people. (A truely saved individual cant be possessed but only tormented because the one in us (holy spirit) is greater than any fallen angel.)
Course, Ive only scratched the surface; take all this seriously, it's not a game. Take it from someone who knows. If it wasn't for Jesus, I would be dead now. If you ever read my testimony that I posted in this forum, you would know that I have seen hell. No fairytales here, it's all as real as that mouse you use to surf the net. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 8:50:04 PM | Rob,
I'm glad that you have found the path that works for you. If that path is Christianity then that's Great.
It is not my path, nor the path of many others on here. And I am not willing to get into a disucssion of what the Bible says or doesn't say about death and what happens to the spirit.
This thread covers what is a witch, did you read the original post? | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 10:37:14 PM | Rob - Congradulations on finding YOUR path and YOUR identity.
However, PLEASE do not discriminate against others beliefs.
We "witches" (at least most of us) let others believe as they may, for in the end we are all the same. Please give us the same respect.
If you delved into any of the pagan faiths and found them to be "evil" that is a sad sad thing. You are entitled to your opinion however.
But I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone tell me what is and is not right for me.
I have my own thoughts, my own ways of aquiring knowledge and information, my own conciousness and I will use those gifts and skills to the fullest extend of my ability. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/6/2006 11:49:13 PM | What's that you say, Wonder-Mutt? Deconstruction time? Oh, all right, but only a little bit.
witches are just like everyone else, they are sinners.
This is true enough from the viewpoint of a faith that embraces the imperfections of humanity and uses them to convict each individual human. I agree.
I use to be into witchcraft. Many today call it 'New Age'.
Right again, many do. Although the appellation is somewhat inaccurate and only partially applicable. Carry on.
I was into meditation and things of the mind.
I can see where being "into" mental things can be scary. Many do find the realm of thought rather intimidating.
I even dwelved into the Necromicon. Folks, this stuff is not for you!
Again, I agree. The Necronomicon, being a warped meshing of pseudo-Satanism with some aspects of (severely butchered) ancient Sumerian mythology, all plugged into an entirely fictional mythos and titled after a literary device for sale as a legitimate article to folks with little or no fluff-radar or discerning taste in occult books, is certainly not for anyone. The actually frightening part, though:
Please dont get into this. It will warp your mind and distort reality in a bad way.
With reference to the Necronomicon, it's true. Even though the book itself is utter tripe, the stuff works. It tends to plug into the believer's probably-already-warped perception of reality and can do some serious damage. Beyond that, I'd argue, from the post's blatant lack of insight into or knowledge of even those things explicitly posted already (ie, at the beginning of the thread), magic, or the means thereto might not be the only concern for some folks distortions of reality...
The truth is... ...nothing to tool with.
Personal truth - valid. In a personal sense. According to an interpretation of the Bible, if we're talking about all of the paragraph being biblical truth.
Course, Ive only scratched the surface; take all this seriously, it's not a game.
A surface. Let's be realistic, here. I'll not deny you may have had a bad experience with certain aspects of magic and/or the occult. These things do happen. But, for me to get knocked down by someone on the street (for whatever reason), is not necessarily the best reason for me to avoid both people and streets. And no one is calling it a game.
If it wasn't for Jesus, I would be dead now.
I'm thankful you're not. Big props to Jesus. Similar kudos from my own bag for Kahalak and Shalat.
But I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone tell me what is and is not right for me.
There are those who will agree wholeheartedly with the wording here, if not the sentiment. Funny world, huh? | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/7/2006 11:33:01 AM | Feral, you're so clever *snickers*
You know what I meant :P | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/7/2006 5:02:40 PM | Rob 0126,
No offense to anyone here but I see it your way too. That said, I don't deny special people their special gifts. My first wife could answer the telephone before it even rang once and she always knew who was on the other end. Yes, she was very psychic. We split eventually but needless to say, effin' around on her while married wasn't an option either. | |
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| What is a witch?
Posted: 1/7/2006 5:18:40 PM | Good points Feral, I wont disagree. The ultimate summary of what I was saying is, doing anything out of the creators will, is bad because he knows more than we do.  | |
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