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 athletic_funny3

Joined: 5/31/2006
Msg: 151
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/8/2006 11:08:41 AM
If it feels like he's not into you then he is not. What he does doesn't really matter. It's what you feel that matters.
 808wannabe

Joined: 5/30/2006
Msg: 152
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He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/8/2006 12:50:45 PM
LoveAngel...well said! And "don't waste the pretty" is one of my favourite quotes too
 Bruise

Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 153
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Posted: 6/8/2006 5:44:41 PM
Let's face it, consideration is a lost art in humanity. If you're not into someone why is it so hard to effectively communicate that with compassion?
Why is that they are the same people who are left bewildered when someone they are interested in is 'not into them' but doesn't give them the consideration they neglected to provide the last person that was interested in them? It doesn't seem anyone is bright enough to make the connection, even with wonderful coined phrases passed down through history like, the Golden Rule, or what goes around, comes around. Or one my personal Taoist favorites...if you sit by the bank of the river long enough you'll watch the bodies of your enemies float by.
Why are we so surprised when we are treated how we treat others?
For all those who are not answering your phone or rolling up your tinted windows, can you really be surprised when the Universe serves you up your feast of consiquences?
We will all feast at the table of our own ignorance until we figure it out.
The Universe pays attention, and the Universe is very fair.
 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 154
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/8/2006 6:02:04 PM
That book should be burned and banned from shelves worldwide
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If you would like to post a proper profile I can send you a full rreview of the book. IN wich I tore every last afrgument in that book to piecies.
 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 155
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Posted: 6/8/2006 6:07:28 PM
All the book is, is common sense... if he aint going out of his way to show his affection.... then... NEXT
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Fast5oo

NOTHING in the book is common sense. In fact one of the distinct signs of committment is taking somebody for granted. Affection is still shown but the person doesn't go out of their way. Mostly because the relationship is so rock solid that they simply don't need to.
 Love Angel Music, Baby

Joined: 5/20/2006
Msg: 156
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/8/2006 6:07:48 PM
Me no habla Asshat...
 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 157
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/8/2006 6:13:10 PM
Not into you Page 1
Introduction By Liz
It started out like any other day. We were pitching around ideas for our fiction stories from Sex and the City and one of the women asked for feedback on the behavior of a man who she liked. He was giving her mixed messages and she was confused.
After much discussion we concluded that she was fabulous and that he must be scared.
But on this day we had a male consultant in the room who gives a straight male perspective. Greg listened and then said to the woman. Listen it sounds like he’s just not into you.============================
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===== OK ladies. Listen up! Open your ears and, far more importantly, open your minds. Firstly the average woman is about as “fabulous” as the average man. But the over inflated, and totally fragile female ego can’t handle the possibility of being “average”. This despite the average female making frantic efforts to power dress to the same average as those around her, to date the same type of boyfriends, to patronize the same bars etc etc etc. Baa baa baa!
But Greg couldn’t give the straight male perspective that I am giving because even one female ego couldn’t handle true male honesty, let alone the half a dozen in the average office environment that Greg normally occupies.
The guy being discussed wasn’t giving mixed messages. The woman, like any AVERAGE woman, has been dishing out the mixed messages to the guys for so long that now she’s hearing mixed messages even when the guy is talking straight.
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We were shocked, appalled, amused, horrified and above all intrigued. We sensed that this man might be speaking a truth that, in our combined hundred years of dating we had never considered.
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And if you really understood men the way you like to say you do then Greg’s comment should have come as no surprise at all.
How many clichés like “men they’re all the same” or “we all know what men are like” have you been spouting out over the years? Fact is, that in your combined hundred years, you have been getting your information about men, third hand, mostly from women with a string of relationship failures under their belts, and therefore you know nothing at all about men. Face it! Your hundred years is not just useless. Its worse than useless if you have been shoveling the same misinformation onto one another over that time. The girl, on a first date, with no information, or misinformation, has a definite advantage because she starts with a clean slate.
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But Greg couldn’t possibly understand my very busy and complicated future husband.
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Liz.! If you are getting this information, about men, from Greg, for the first time in your life, then you should postpone your wedding for at least two years. This kind of information should have come from your future husband long before it came from Greg. If he can’t be honest with you in the same way as Greg has been then YOU, not him, have a serious relationship problem. The problem being that, like most women, you can’t face the truth in relationships. And, unlike Greg, your future husband knows how much damage he will do to your hopelessly fragile ego by telling you the truth.
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Greg made us see that if a sane guy really likes you that there aint nothing gonna get in his way.=========
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Where he failed miserably was in demonstrating that if a worthwhile guy really likes you that you that there shouldn’t be anything in his way in the first place. But there is. Heaps of stuff.
And, in the present dating environment you, more than anyone else, are throwing barriers in his way left right and centre. While you are doing this some other girl, with a brain of her own, with far more male savvy than you, is throwing herself at the worthwhile guys tits first and brains a close second. Tit’s and brains vs barriers! Which one do you think any male, worthwhile or otherwise, is going to choose?
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 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 158
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/8/2006 7:34:05 PM
Not into you Page 8
Greg reminded us that we were all beautiful, smart, funny, women and we shouldn’t be wasting our time figuring out why a guy is not calling us.
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Greg failed to mention that beautiful is the last on the list of desirable traits that real men seek. The other traits can be as undesirable as desirable. I note that Greg never used the word “horny” when he described the ladies. From a purely sexual point of view that’s a hundred times more important than “beautiful”. From a general point of view the most important characteristic of the lot is “likes men” Most women are actually so conditioned to man hating that even they aren’t aware of how bad they really are.

Smart is desirable. Smart ass is not. Funny ceases to be funny, in a hell of a hurry, if funny consists of a continuous stream of malicious jokes about men. To get some idea of how unfunny this sort of thing becomes, in a hurry, try spending a couple of days cracking nothing but blonde jokes and see how fast the blondes in the office lose their sense of humor.
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It’s hard. We’re taught that in life we should look on the bright side. To be optimistic. Not in this case. In this case look on the dark side.
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In reality only the kiddy story books end in a happy ending where the handsome prince rides off with the beautiful princess. Only the child’s garden looks on the bright side. If you are still being taught from these kiddy books then you certainly can’t be called “smart”.
In business studies we are taught that only five percent of new businesses last more than five years. In marriage we are taught that sixty percent of marriages fail and that fifty percent of husbands and eighty percent of wives cheat in a marriage.
But women seem to suffer some sort of selective deafness when it comes to facing this sort of reality.
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Assume rejection first. Assume you are the rule, not the exception. It’s intoxicatingly liberating. But we all know it’s not an easy concept.
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It’s strange that it’s so often touted as “not an easy concept” when women are discussing it. Because, in the classic style of ignorant spinsters, these same women are advising one another to continually reject the men. EG “Don’t say yes the first time or he won’t respect you.” And similar drivel.

(In fact you should ALWAYS say yes the first time or he will never ask you again. He will reject you for somebody who does say yes. Although it’s not him rejecting you of course. It’s you rejecting him.)
 singleguy64

Joined: 5/27/2006
Msg: 159
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Posted: 6/8/2006 9:54:21 PM

If he’s not calling you its because you are not on his mind

The truth If he’s not calling you it’s because he’s not allowed to call you. Or because your boss has told your secretary to hold all calls of a personal nature. Or because he’s up to his elbows in blood in the operating theatre. Trying to save a life is one of many reasons you are not on his mind.

If you are married, and a mother, and up to your elbows in babies, then you will know exactly what it is like to not have the time to call him.


I read a bunch of this thread, and I had to laugh. The "up to your elbows in babies" is an appropriate comment, because I truely believe being a mom is a full-time job in itself.

Look, I'm a guy, like most people I have a job, I'm not sitting there at work 8 hours a day daydreaming about coming home to her sitting there in a satin nightgown and heels waiting for me (although if she told me that I'm sure I would be ). Sorry ladies, but I'm getting paid to do a job, not daydream about you, and since the job earns me money to buy you those flowers, gifts, dinners out, etc, and pays for a place to live, it might be nice of me when I'm there to actually think about work and not you all day long. If you see me online in the middle of the workday and you start IM'ing me on the computer, and I dont' reply or shut down IM... its probably *not* because I "don't love you", its probably because I'm not even at my computer, or your message of "I'm horny, I'll be waiting when you get home!" just popped up on my screen in the middle of a meeting with my laptop hooked up to the LCD projector and 12 people in the room are laughing and busting my chops about it because it just popped up on an 5'x10' screen on the wall in front of them. It doesn't mean I don't love you, or that I'm not "into you", its just uh, "inappropriate" at that moment. (note: I try to remember to shut my IM's down when I'm screen-sharing now).

Not to say I won't think about you during the workday, and a romantic email (or e-card) is not inappropriate. But calling me or IM'ing me 10x a day and/or being upset because I'm not doing the same, is obsessive and personally a bit of a turnoff for me. I'll gladly call at the end of the day, or at lunch if I have the time, or almost every night if we're not living together, but I've been with a woman where "you have to call *every* night or you obviously don't love me", regardless of my $300/mo phone bill talking to her every other night, and (she was 200 miles away) when I said I was going over to my (married) friends house because they invited me over for dinner the next night, so I probably wouldn't call that night "you should just go out with her then! (note: *married* friends, that I hadn't seen in probaby 6 months)". Drop the insecurities. If I love you, you'll know, I have no problem with saying those 3 words when I mean it, and I love to hear them, but I don't need to hear or say them 30 times a day to know its true.

I get so tired of "he's not drooling at my doorstep 24/7, doting on my every need... he must not be 'into' me" -- no, he's just not meeting *your* expectations. The question you need to ask yourself is, how realistic are your expectations? I don't think anyone would argue that an expectation of not-a-cheater, not-abusive, etc, is unrealistic. On the flip side, I think an expectation of "he's going to never upset me, always do what I ask when I ask" is a bit unrealistic.
 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 160
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Posted: 6/8/2006 11:18:18 PM
808

I havent moved any mountians because I havent yet found anybody worth moving mountians for.

Now! Present accounts. Present your mountians. You may THINK that you have moved mountians.

Show us the mountians that you have moved. Not the ride that you have gone along for.



Single guy.
Did "I'm horny" rreally pop up on the display screen in the middle of a presentation???
PMSL
 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 161
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/8/2006 11:25:00 PM
Not into you Page 10
WE go out with someone, we get excited about them, and then they do something that mildly disappoints us. Then they keep doing a lot more things that disappoint us. Then we go into hyper excuse mode because the last thing that we want to think is that this great man that we are so excited about is turning into a creep.
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(English Translation!)

WE go out with someone, we kid ourselves that we have finally found the elusive “perfect man”, and then they do something, less than perfect, that mildly disappoints us. Something so petty so insignificant that any decent woman wouldn’t even notice it, let alone get upset about it. But, even then, instead of talking with him in a civil manner about the issue we sulk and brood over it and wonder why he’s so “insensitive” that he cant read our minds. Then they keep doing a lot more petty things that disappoint, petty, finicky girls like us. Then we go into hyper excuse mode because the last thing that we want to think is that this perfect man that we are so excited about is the usual, good man, quality man, but definitely not a perfect man.

The most extreme , example, of this pickiness, taken way too far, has been touring the internet for some years now. A true story so it’s claimed..

"I go on this great first date and we decide to share a cab home - separate stops. When we get in, he buckles his seatbelt! I know that's a wise thing to do, so I feel like a jerk saying this, but it totally turned me off. It just seemed so kid-like and lame. Is he too much of a weenie for me, or am I out of my mind?" wrote Unrestrained Lady, Upper West Side.
To the uninitiated, Unrestrained Lady may seem like a neurotic aberration. But ditching men because they fail to measure up in some infinitesimal way has been a staple gag in real-life single girl chats for years. We all know Ascham women who won't go out with men who don't drive brand cars or didn't go to a "brand" school. Or the woman who instantly went off a man she had been crazy for because he turned up at her front door wearing a plaited belt. In the days before e-tags, another felt her stomach turn when her date fumbled with the bridge toll. These are usually not just excuses to jettison an unsatisfactory male, but genuine reasons for spontaneous revulsion.


For a true creep you would have to be talking about a junkie, addicted to multiple drugs, who had beaten up at least one girlfriend badly enough to cripple her, and had raped his own five year old daughter. These men DO exist and they are absolute barstards. But how many readers actually know them personally? They do exist but they are, thankfully, extremely rare.


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We try to come up with some explanation for why they’re behaving that way. Any explanation, no matter how ridiculous, than the one explanation that’s the truth. He’s just not into me.

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(English Translation!)
We try to come up with some explanation for why they’re behaving that way. Any explanation, no matter how ridiculous, except the one explanation that’s the truth. He’s a good man. Not a perfect man. The only ridiculous assumption is the whole idea of a perfect man in the first place.

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That’s why we’ve included questions taken from real situation. They represent the basic excuses that we all use to keep us in situations far longer than we should be. So read, enjoy, and hopefully learn from other women’s confusion.

And above all if the guy you’re dating doesn’t seem to be completely into you or you feel the need to start “figuring him out” please consider the glorious thought that he might not be into you. And then free yourself up to go find the one that is.


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(English Translation)
And above all, if the guy you are dating doesn’t seem to be perfect or you feel the need to start “figuring him out” please consider the glorious thought that there may be no such thing as the perfect man. And that you will never “figure him out” when you rely on information from your girlfriends who know even less about men than you do.

And then free yourself up to either accept the good man you have, or to go looking for that mythical perfect man till you are that lonely wasted skeleton on the park bench with no family, no kids, no friends, and still no perfect man.

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 ][KAOS][

Joined: 2/24/2006
Msg: 162
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/8/2006 11:34:15 PM
This whole thread makes my brain want to explode.
 carrie bradshaw

Joined: 2/21/2006
Msg: 163
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/8/2006 11:39:02 PM
I just read seven pages of this and I am more confused than ever. Thank God I found two great pairs of shoes today. Men, I do not get. But shoes, oh shoes I get...
~Carrie Bradshaw
 secrtluvr

Joined: 5/12/2006
Msg: 164
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/9/2006 1:30:37 AM
After my divorce
met a chick on true
she came to my town
drank a pitcher of maragaritas
then straight to bed
turned out to be a big girl
buck teeth, smelled bad
snored, refused oral--
we'd called a lot up to then
I went soft

My attention wandered
 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 165
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/9/2006 2:01:57 AM
Carrie

A couple of explanation to perhaps help with your confusion


He’s just not into you Page 5
Introduction by Greg

So I’m sitting in the writers room at Sex and the City when the writers start talking about guys they’re seeing.
So, on this particular day one of the ladies pipes up with Greg, you’re a guy. So I’ve been seeing this guy…….Well I think I have. See we went to a movie and it was great. I mean he didn’t hold my hand but that’s cool. I don’t like to hold hands. “But afterward he kissed me in the parking lot.” So I asked if he wanted to come over, but he had a really important meeting in the morning so he didn’t come over”
C’mon. Are you kidding me? So I asked “Have you heard from him?”
“Well that’s the thing. This was like a week ago. And then today he e mails me and is like Why haven’t I heard from you?
I stared at her for a moment while the answer was bursting out of my eyeballs. Here is this beautiful, talented, super smart girl, who is a writer on an award winning TV show known for it’s incisive observation about men who you would think could have her pick of just about any dude around. This superstar of a woman is confused about a situation that to me is so clear. Actually confused is the wrong word. She is too smart for that. She’s hopeful, not confused. But the situation is hopeless, so I broke the news to her. He’s just not that into you.
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Explanation


Greg’s been hanging around the girls too long! Actually that’s not quite right or quite fair. Greg’s writing for a market of female readers, just as the Sex and the City program is written for a market of female viewers and there’s a whole bucket load of taboos in this market. (EG You’re fat! Which doesn’t matter. I like fat chicks. Double taboo there! Fat girls and the guys who like them that way.) Sex in the City would be the worst program I could think of for observations about men. It follows the lives of four women who live in a full on female culture and use men in the same way as they use vibrators. No problem for the men as they still get sex.
They may, or may not, be after more than just sex but at least they do get sex Anything else they are after is irrelevant anyway. This series is about the girls. Not the men that they date.
Let’s start with the taboo of mind reading and mixed messages. She refuses to even hold his hand during the movie. He steals a goodnight kiss from her in the car park. It’s the obvious place, from a guys point of view, to steal such a smooch, from the average neurotic, rape phobic, stalker phobic, harassment phobic, New York girl. Because if she takes offence and throws a tantrum, there’s far less of an audience, far fewer witnesses, and its far easier for him to just walk away, than in the theatre. The girl suddenly goes into reverse so fast that the gears are practically grinding. From an absolute ice cold **** who wont even hold his hand she’s suddenly inviting him home. Hellooo! It’s mixed messages all right but she’s the one who’s sending them. Not him.
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Gregs version

And let me tell you. That’s the good news. Because wasting time with the wrong person is just time wasted. And when you do move on and find your right person believe me you’re not going to wish you had spent more time with Stinky the Time Waster of Freddy Cant remember to Call.
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English Translation

And let me tell you. That’s the good news. Because wasting time with this good, but less than perfect man is going to prove the best time you’ve ever spent. And when you do move on and start dating a whole heap of different men, who are all less than perfect, that’s the first step to coming to terms with the reality that nobody’s perfect. And when you end up dating a genuine creep you will, hopefully, finally, realize just how good the rest of these less than perfect men really are.
At the moment you are wasting your time kidding yourself that your present beau is perfect and agonizing that he isn’t. When you finally find yourself genuinely desperate and dateless then you are going to wish you had spent more time with Stinky the Time Waster or Freddy Cant remember to Call.
Look I am not a doctor. But I am an expert who should be listened to for several important reasons. I am a guy. More importantly I am a single guy. A regular guy who has had his fair share of dud relationships with girls who are still seeking a child’s handsome prince and can’t understand why I am not a handsome prince.
I know how a guy thinks feels and acts. I’m tired of seeing women destroying their relationship chances by shoveling the same bullshit onto one another.
 808wannabe

Joined: 5/30/2006
Msg: 166
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Posted: 6/10/2006 3:03:06 AM
What you think of as a mountain and what I think of as a mountain, are probably two different things...what I see is you looking for confrontation and being a bitter 50 year old man with nothing better to do than to "mythbust" as you so call it. Go out and get yourself a life and find yourself someone worth moving mountains for.
 Holly_Golightly

Joined: 9/20/2005
Msg: 167
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Posted: 6/10/2006 3:33:34 AM
When a person stops being spontaneous is the sign of being not that into you - that's a guide. Some guys just don't have even confidence to explain themselves, hence, dropping hints and acting strange hopefully, that you'll go away on your own. I think women do act this way too. It is still rare find to meet someone with enough maturity and confidence to talk and analyse situations on why the relationship won't work.

As for the book of the same title - I bought it for a girlfriend who was in a self-denial stage and still feeling hopeful that her guy would bounce back despite all her efforts to win him back. At the end of the book, I wrote, move on....someone else worthy will find you.
 Shangrilah

Joined: 5/27/2006
Msg: 168
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Posted: 6/10/2006 3:43:58 AM
The margins are messed up
 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 169
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/10/2006 3:57:14 AM
what I see is you looking for confrontation
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What you see is mistaken. I am not about confrontation. I am about clarification without melodramatics, without soft soaping.

Now! As I said. What mountians have you moved for him. Simple enough question. In fact, forget the mountians. What have you actually done for him at all.

And not just my question either.
One of the WOMEN has asked the same question in one of the other posts. IE "Do any of the women here know how to romance a guy"
She had been asking both the girls and the gusy what romantic gestures their partners had made in the last few weeks or months and most of the guys had replied with "nothing". Their gf's had not shown them any sort of romance at all.
 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 170
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/10/2006 4:01:04 AM
When a person stops being spontaneous is the sign of being not that into you - that's a guide.
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That depends on what stage of the relationship Holly. (Never that simple is it )

If its in early stages then it's a sign that he's not paticularly interested.

If the relationship has been going for a few months then the lack of spontanaeity means that you are used to his surprieses and they are no longer surprises.

It also means that he is taking you for granted. Thats a dirty sentence in the language of romance but it's also a sure sign of long term committment.
 Love Angel Music, Baby

Joined: 5/20/2006
Msg: 171
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/10/2006 5:56:19 AM
Sparticuss. Mr. Punctuation is your friend. How can you keep looking in his big puppy dog eyes and say "no"?
 808wannabe

Joined: 5/30/2006
Msg: 172
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Posted: 6/10/2006 6:53:15 AM
What have I done for him? Hmmmm let's see. I moved countries for him. Twice. How's that for a gesture of "affection"? Does that meet your standards? Lately I haven't done anything for "him" because right now there isn't a "him"...but I like doing little stuff that he would think is cool...ie--buying or making him a present because he thinks it would be cool (ie, something that goes along with whatever he collects), or taking him out to dinner, or driving somewhere to see him just because. Are you satisfied? Romance isn't dead, there are people out there who know what it means and how to do it. Do you?
 intrigueme27

Joined: 5/30/2006
Msg: 173
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/10/2006 7:44:51 PM
In response to some of the comments about the book...


I read it a couple of times, and accidentally left it out once when my guy was comming over. I waltzed into the room to find him cursing at the part in the book where it says "If he doesn't call you- he's just not that into you". He was saying "But I really am just shy!!! It's not easy to call a girl!! It's nerve-wracking!!"

So, my general opinion of the book... is, believe it in moderation....
 sparticuss

Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 174
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Posted: 6/11/2006 1:16:45 AM
"If he doesn't call you- he's just not that into you". He was saying "But I really am just shy!!! It's not easy to call a girl!!

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Intriduge. I thought I'd already posted that section??? Errr no actually I didn't The different section of the book seem to be all so identical these days.

Never mind. Here it is!

Page 30 “He’s not into you” if he’s not calling you.
Men know how to use the phone

But he’s been traveling a lot
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Dear Greg
I recently started dating a very nice man. He’s gentle, he’s affectionate, he’s attentive. It recently became a long distance thing because of his work. The first problem is that he doesn’t’ call me when he says he’s going to. Actually he doesn’t call me that much at all. A week will go by and I’ll call him. Then he’ll call me back five days later. But when he does get me on the phone it s all honey and baby and I miss you so much. Etc etc etc.
Gina
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Greg’s answer
The only distance that’s bothering me is the distance between you and reality. Eg In your second sentence you said he’s gentle and affectionate. But a few sentences later you are saying “He doesn’t really call me when he says he’s going to.” That is neither affectionate not attentive.
For the record a man who likes you wants to spend time with you And he’ll only settle for talking to you on the phone five times a day when he physically cant get on a plane to come and see you.
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The real answer
Dear Gina
The only thing that has changed is the distance. If he was genuinely attentive and affectionate when you two were close then his feelings haven’t changed with distance. You call him once a week. He calls you once a week. Sounds fair. The job and the distance haven’t altered his feelings, the problem is the distance. Don’t under rate that problem though. It can still destroy a relationship.
If, on the other hand, he wasn’t affectionate and attentive when you were close then the distance is a nice excuse to fob you off completely.
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I have to ask all of the female readers a particularly relevant question here. How many of you have had boyfriends who did ring and e mail you five times a day? At work? For a half hour at a time? And how many of you had to tell these guys, very firmly, NOT to ring you at work or you would be sacked?
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Page 33 “He’s not into you”
He says things he doesn’t mean.
Dear Greg
I’m dating this guy who ends conversations saying he’ll call me at a certain time. And then he doesn’t. He always ends up calling but never when he said he would.
Should I read something into this.?
Annie
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Greg’s answer
Dear Call Waiting
Yes you should read something into this. In fact the very something is he’s just not into you Here’s the deal. Most guys l say what they think you want to hear at the end of a date or a phone call, rather than nothing at all. Some guys are lying some really mean it. Here’s how you tell the difference. You know that they really mean it when they do what they say they will do.
Here’s something else to think about . Calling when you say you’re going to is the very first brick in the house you are building of love and trust. If he cant lay one stupid brick down you aint never going to have a house. And baby it’s cold outside.
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The real answer
Dear Annie
Yes m dear you should certainly read something into this.
You should read the following into this. This list is provided by the Darebin Women’s Shelter here in Melbourne. It lists the following as the sure signs that a woman is living in an abusive relationship with a control freak and a wife basher.
• Do you feel like you are walking on eggshells?
• Are you told what to do, when to do it, what to wear?
• Do you have to account for your time?
• Are you hit, kicked or pushed around? Do you have things thrown at, or near you?
• Are you cut off from family and friends?
• Is your partner possessive or jealous?
• Does your partner control you and the money?
Typical examples of wife abuse?? Think again.

- The average husband has to account for every time he works back late. He’s routinely accused of infidelity even though he’s got the overtime money to prove otherwise. The real truth is that the workplace often feels more like a home than his home. Particularly if home means “walking on eggshells” all the time.

So then! It’s not enough that he rings you back. He’s supposed to ring back on schedule no matter what workplace emergency pops up.

Yes m dear! You can certainly read something into this. You can read the fact that, like virtually every female reading this review, you are a control freak and that you are a husband basher! Even if you are not married to him and have never actually hit him.
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Page 42 He’s not into you
Greg If he’s not calling you its because you are not on his mind
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The truth If he’s not calling you it’s because he’s not allowed to call you. Or because your boss has told your secretary to hold all calls of a personal nature. Or because he’s up to his elbows in blood in the operating theatre. Trying to save a life is one of many reasons you are not on his mind.
If you are married, and a mother, and up to your elbows in babies, then you will know exactly what it is like to not have the time to call him.
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Greg If he creates expectations for you and then doesn’t follow through on little things he will do the same for big things. Be aware of this and realize that he’s OK with disappointing you.
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The truth If he doesn’t follow through on little things then its because he regards them as too trivial to follow through on. You will fail to follow through on the same trivial promises to your children in about ten years time.
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Greg Don’t be with someone that doesn’t do what they say they are going to do
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The truth To honor and obey. You said that at the altar. You promised! And you have neither honored nor obeyed.
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Greg If he’s choosing not to make a simple effort that would put you at ease and bring harmony to a recurring fight then he doesn’t respect your feelings and needs.
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The truth You need air, water, and food, in that order. Shelter and clothing are nice too. But designer clothing to be worn on a daily basis and a phone call scheduled to the second, is a “want” NOT A NEED.
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Greg Busy is another word for ***hole. ***hole is the guy you’re dating
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Busy is another word for busy.
***hole?? You would have to be talking about a junkie, addicted to multiple drugs, who had beaten up at least one girlfriend badly enough to cripple her, and had raped his own five year old daughter. These lowlife’s do actually exist but a naive kid like you has never known a true ***hole.
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Greg You deserve a ****ing phone call.
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The truth No you don’t. Not until you’ve smartened up your whole attitude to men.
 carrie bradshaw

Joined: 2/21/2006
Msg: 175
He's Just Not That Into You ...
Posted: 6/11/2006 1:46:17 AM
If you like me, buy me shoes and then I'll know. Again, men I do not get. But shoes, shoes I get....
~Carrie B.
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