| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/4/2006 1:40:21 PM | | It's all too easy to fall into the habit of thinking that things will stay the same as they are. We take people for granted in these situations, and that often leads to dissatisfaction. Living more consciously helps avoid this problem, as does thinking ahead. In the business world, we say that failing to plan is planning to fail. That works for relationships too. | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 8:47:44 AM | To Zentral
Living more consciously helps avoid this problem, as does thinking ahead. In the business world, we say that failing to plan is planning to fail. That works for relationships too.
o COme on now? you can plan a relationship out.. it has to all happen naturally you both should have some common goals for the future. but things change.. people change over time nothing lasts forever.. your basically saying a relationship is like working a bussines plan..
so give up on love cuz there really is no such thing is what your saying .surprised you didnt include "must have pre nup signed" in your comment.. geezz louise... (rolls eyes ) | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:03:14 AM | well, when 70 percent of Divorces are because the woman walks what man would WANT to commit, especially after alimoney?
If I meet an EXCELLENT one, Locally, I'll think about it. | |
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arri
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Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 29 | |
| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:04:41 AM | | Men must come with a guarantee ... but women's prerogative means .. they can always change their minds | |
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ya472
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Joined: 8/8/2005
Msg: 30 | |
| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:09:57 AM | ..
he was about 28 he was "in love" with this great girl and they had lived together for a while and she asked him one night if there was a future for them ..... He told her he wasn't ready for marriage and went out ...when he came back she had left and he came back to an empty house.
She did the right thing. He was getting the benefits of being married without having to be 'responsible' for it. He was 28, they were living together, so if he DOESN"T get it, she should move on.
For guys, Tom Leykis said something profound. Ask the woman your dating, "Am I your Knight in Shining Armour?"
In one instance, the lady laughed. I had my answer.
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:10:23 AM | Guess it comes to this.
Some of us, have no problem with cpmmitment!
Others, should just be,COMMITED! | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:11:54 AM | | Sounds like he WAS committed. I mean they were living together, exclusively. She just wanted an excuse to leave. | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:36:43 AM | | Really, I think commited relationships are just a huge waste of time. They all end in one of two ways: Divorce/separation or two people that hardly speak. | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:41:18 AM | | There's one thing missing from that mullet, Yam: a shelf for your beer and smokes. And Yam, you're beginning to convert me. | |
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arri
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Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 35 | |
| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:43:49 AM | @ Yami
You are even wearing me down to your way of thinking  | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:44:11 AM | | Or they end as friends with best wishes and fond feelings. Or, they don't end and life is good. | |
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arri
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Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 38 | |
| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:45:13 AM | | or like my ex .. devoted to making my life miserable | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:47:10 AM | @ Summer and Arri,
Come to the dark side
Really, if I am starting to make that much sense to either of you, then you both need to take a break from these forums for a while | |
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arri
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Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 42 | |
| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:54:21 AM | | Come to think of it .. the only time being single ..pisses me off is when I need a date for some event or .. a travel companion | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 9:57:38 AM | your basically saying a relationship is like working a bussines plan..
There's a lot of wisdom in what Zen says. If more people treated their marriage like a maerger between two businesses, maybe more would last.
edit: Arri, see, I have never had that problem. Plus, I enjoy traveling solo. | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 10:01:39 AM | | I think she was more committed to the idea of marriage than the she was to her dudefeller. | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 10:03:27 AM | To the OP,
It's been 20 years, and that is a long time to idealize the situation.
Sometimes I feel like breaking up with my last gf was the stupidest thing I have done in my life, but I'm not sure I am really remembering her the way she was.
Really, she was a psycho, I was walking on eggshells all of the time, every one of my friends said it was a bad thing, I'm pretty sure it was, but the more time that passes the more I forget the bad and dwell on the good and miss her and lament her leaving.
I think men tend to idealize their ex's after a while, or at least some of us do. It's hard to remember why you weren't ready or whatever. | |
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arri
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Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 47 | |
| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 10:10:43 AM | If more people treated their marriage like a maerger between two businesses, maybe more would last.
I totally agree. In the old days, I used to work with start ups and hear lot of pitches. The first thing I used to tell them was, go and write a business plan. The process of putting thought on paper and working out the details is one of the best exercises anyone can do. I even set personal 5 year plans together for myself and highly recommend doing the same to anyone, married or single.
@Yami - I have a lot of hot lady friends (Just friends) who are available as trophy dates ... but I like celebratory sex after a night out. That's what I meant. | |
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AI03™
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Joined: 5/3/2005
Msg: 48 | |
| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 10:13:24 AM | WOW.. What an uplifting thread.. (no offence OP) more men believing commitment and marriage and relationships are $hit. Gotta love it. Maybe I should convert to YamI's way of thinking too. Getting close to anyone and wanting to be with them sucks and will surely end in failure and bankruptcy. And since 70% of divorces are caused my women walking,(according to OTB) and since I'm a woman, I guess I'll eventually walk too. Generally, people just SUCK.  | |
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| Men and commitment
Posted: 1/5/2006 10:17:06 AM | @arri
And if you think about when marriage were last successful, they really were like business mergers - both parts provided a complementary service to the other that made the whole a greater product.
In respect to your second point, I have really limited interest in sex. I'd rather ease into my recliner, watch the late west coast ball game on ESPN and have a beer after a night out. | |
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