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 Da Exception

Joined: 7/5/2006
Msg: 151
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Posted: 11/1/2007 8:49:36 AM
We are different colors for a reason and were originally put on different continents in the beginning to keep us apart.


Yeah we are different colors for a reason. Try picking up a book about migration and climate. You never cease to entertain me.


I don't believe that Black men are desperate; I believe that most of them are confused, and suffer from low self-esteem and a lot of other problems brought on by racism. Sad, and I want to "help", but not at the expense of my heart and my own self-esteem.


I don't believe black women are nappy headed ho's. I believe that most of them are confused, and suffer from low self-esteem and a lot of other problems brought on by racism. Sad, and I want to "help", but not at the expense of my heart and my own self-esteem.

Did that statement sound silly and ignorant to you? I hope so b/c it was. If you believe that, it may be POSSIBLE you have issues with yourself you need to address. I don't know you so I may be wrong but it's POSSIBLE.


Sad to say, but in my romantic life, Black men have been the biggest disappointment to me


One of two things are going on here. Could it be that most black men are disappointments in dating or could it be you made bad decisions on choosing which ones to date?
 mr. dynomite

Joined: 9/11/2007
Msg: 152
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Posted: 11/1/2007 8:52:52 AM
I think there is some confusion between "desperate" and "a tad more aggressive"

Most of the black men i've known go for the best looking white girl.. the prettiest ones.. and somehow they get them even when they themselves (the men) are overweight, extremely skinny or wearing clothes that these women usually complain about (jerseys, pants down to knees & gold front teeth, violent lifestyles..)

It can't be 'desperation' for these guys if the women they chose look like models.


Hey.. whatever works. If you can get 'em. go get 'em.
 serenityCW

Joined: 1/21/2006
Msg: 153
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Posted: 11/1/2007 10:30:26 AM
duh marduk. start reading the "genome project". we all came from africa, migrated into colder climates, lost pigment because we had less exposure to the sun and needed to absorb some vitamin D!

and, in case you are a bible thumper with your concern regarding low morals, we all came from adam and eve in that case and it would appear that they too were african--but then again (in my opinion), Higher Power is flexible enough to allow for spiritual adaptations so people like yourself can worship their own images. hmmm...how do you incorporate your concept of foot fetish with traditional, conservative values, taken literally and for your own purpose? just curious...

as to your foot fetish, maybe you should clone yourself and you won't have to look so hard to find "THE ONE" . but then again, we all needed our feet to migrate this far! so there still is hope.

as to who anyone meets and issues which have "become" color biased or defensive: the more exposure to one another, the less these issues will surface. you will, in fact, develop a sense of ethnic humor about it all. if you differentiate african american just like any other "descent" (versus black and white), in a more cosmopolitan area you will end up in a minority just like all other ethnicities. therefore you will be more statistically likely to meet someone of another descent, by socializing in the larger group. this is the same for other ethniciites, who are pooled together as "white" in this discussion.

the white versus black issue has been made real by institutionalized racist practices, which have in this country of multiple migrations a political-economic basis. the major way out of this, aside from time, is accessing higher education. at this juncture, a parent has to assess whether the child who is in the political minority needs to go to an all "black" college to enhance self esteem before venturing into the "white" world or a mixed race college to start getting exposure--unless like my kids they are raised in mixed race environments. going into an all "white" college is difficult, unless it has an international mix that makes the african american child less uncomfortable, as everyone is "culturally" different to balance out the feeling of "apartness".

when my more rurally settled friends have issues meeting people of color in their geographic areas, particularly the single ones, i suggest they take a course at the local university or seek out organizations that have more ethnic diversity. then they will meet someone "of color" or at least less obsessed with the concept. well, hopefully that is...
 dancecard

Joined: 3/19/2006
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Posted: 11/1/2007 10:41:13 AM
Good Fun Loving pleasant Character is colorless. ~ This is all a foolish topic

PO has misused the word desperate ~

To get the right answer ~ you must ask the right question ~dar
 caliluv

Joined: 1/9/2007
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Posted: 11/1/2007 12:07:50 PM
I completely agree with the women who posted " I don't believe that Black men are desperate; I believe that most of them are confused, and suffer from low self-esteem and a lot of other problems brought on by racism. Sad, and I want to "help", but not at the expense of my heart and my own self-esteem."

However, I don't believe that men are the only people affected by racisim. Women are as well but I believe that the effects of low-self esteem in the African American culture are exhibited diffently among the genders.

Men find self-esteem in the life that they create for themselves.. Money, job, family, cars and women. Racisim and prejudice provides barriers to those things that are considered apart of the "good life."

I think that dating white women makes (some) black men feel as their obtaining "the good life." I have read some womens' postings on incidents when they have dated black men and then man wanted the attention from dating a white woman. That is low self-esteem in which even negative comments help them feel better about themselves.

So, Mag the writer of the post you responded to is NOT ignorant or adressing her own issues but looking at the African American race and sees that there is a problem when black people don't love themselves. I have had the attitude of wanting to be apart of the solution instead of the problem but the effects of racisim is more than a couple of indiviuals can fix.

You and I have had this conversation. I believe that love is colorblind and I have dated good men of all races but I have heard "confused" racial comments from black men on interracial dating. Dating a white woman because you are attracted to her and dating a white women to boost your self-esteem are two very different things.

If you want a visual example of this issue watch the movie " The Brothers" with Morris Chestnut and Gabrielle Union. Bill Bellamy plays a brother with issues who is tired of dating sisters and by the end of the movie he resolves his issues. Then he can clearly see that black women are not the enemy in his life.
 Da Exception

Joined: 7/5/2006
Msg: 156
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Posted: 11/1/2007 1:42:25 PM

So, Mag the writer of the post you responded to is NOT ignorant or adressing her own issues but looking at the African American race and sees that there is a problem when black people don't love themselves.


That's not the way she put it though. She didn't say African American nor black people, she said black men.
 fishbill

Joined: 3/19/2005
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Posted: 11/1/2007 2:11:07 PM
notgoinganywhere said: """ but where i come from the white men will not date zebras, thats the term they use for whites that date blacks. its one of the first questions that guys ask girls """
hmm, wonder what rock he comes froms. Anyways, where I come from, we don't even talk about stupid sheet like that....Uh, we have important stuff to do, like earn money to pay for your sins, educate or children, stop global warming, etc.
God I'm sorry people, that guy is probably white, and a serious embarassment to all intelligent life forms on Earth wich is anything above an ameoba compared to notgoinganywhere.


And folks WHEN AN IDIOT LIKE MUDBUTT makes an offensive "conservative" post like that JUST CLICK "DELETE" post option. And its scary idiots like that can use computers and join a dating site.

Thank you, It works if you work it!
 TrialSize

Joined: 10/17/2007
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Posted: 11/1/2007 4:38:06 PM
OP : quote: in American society, there is a myth being perpetuated upon the people. No, not the myth about the large black male endowment. I am speaking of another myth. The myth I speak of is the myth that all black men are desperate for a white woman"""

What I've seen is that there is a small minority of black males (and ones of other races too) who prefer to be the big alpha dog in the relationship and they are drawn to some overweight white females because unfortunately our society has villified fat and these women have low self-esteem as a result and thus they are more willing to tolerate a very domineering boyfriend and when the domineering male is a hot black guy - well they think they've died and gone to heaven and treat him accordingly.

And some black women love some caucasion guys because they don't try to make them submissive in the relationship. Same only in reverse.

It's not about skin colour, it's about the gender stereotypes of two different cultures and those who like their "racial gender roles" and those who don't.

Just my $.02 cents and maybe not worth much since I am neither a black male, a chubby white female, a black woman or a caucasion guy!!
 caliluv

Joined: 1/9/2007
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Posted: 11/1/2007 5:58:10 PM
Trialsize,that's a good and accurate observation as well.
 joecool

Joined: 4/25/2006
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Posted: 11/1/2007 11:39:51 PM
Well i live down here in the south and it is big for black guys to date large white women matter of fact just white women period! But, from what i found out from observation is that (I Truely hate to say this but im just being 100% real) is that some of these black men are controlling dogs and they see these large low self esteem white women and see jackpot!! Why not just use her? The thing is they do and the women let it happen and justify it saying its love. They take their money drive their cars like its a rental (you know just dog it out) and wont even pick her up from work (in her own car) because he is at her house getting high with his friends!! I hate it!!
it makes us black men look extremly bad and i cant stand it i feel sorry for the women, i use to try to talk to them to help them understand but they dont want to hear it. So after a while i stopped they gotta help themselves.
 cedar77

Joined: 7/17/2006
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Posted: 11/2/2007 12:31:25 AM

Truth is that 75% of domestic violence occurs at the hands of a white male. Ask any white woman why they choose to date a black man and they will tell you it is because of how we treat them & value them. White men have this ingrained cave man mentality, which is evident in the abuse and lack of respect for their women. I honestly believe that white men should date black women, due to the same lack of respect for their race and themselves. I do not buy into the whole media crap, of why the race mixing occurs. Look at the president. He starts a war on false pretenses and tries to justify it using race relations as a reason to continue to tromp on the less fortunate. The cave man mentality enables white men to think that they have a right to dominate the world and their women. Women are not possessions to be owned or controlled. Get off your high horse/soap box, gain a clear understanding of why you are not having any success keeping a woman. The whole victim stance way of thinking is clear in your post.

@ Tiredofgames1......
I'm a white man , and I have to say , that is one racist hate statement directed at white males.
Worse than that , much of it is complete garbage .
So , would you kindly go **** yourself on the white male bashing.
But , of course no white male has called you on it (other than myself )
I will say one thing , when it comes to sticking up for their own race and gender , white men are big time cowards. The media inspired politically correct "white guilt" thing is powerful stuff.
So you are right about whites not respecting their own race , but definately not in the way you implied.
Also , I'm sure you're right about some blacks having a victim mentality .
Now , who is it that has the low self- esteem?
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 okcgreeneyes1029

Joined: 1/23/2007
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Posted: 11/2/2007 6:58:21 AM
A little late to chime in, but who gives a flip? This is one woman of "size" that has NO low self esteem issues. I've been thin and I've been fat. I've spoken to people and looked them in the eyes while skinny and fat.

Race, weight, height, age; physically or mentally challenged, what does it matter? It is the person who has what "society" calls the problem to not accept it. Just because I'm a lily white fat chick does not mean I will be belittled for looking this way. I am beautiful, just like any thin white woman, just like any African American woman of size or thinness, and just like any one else that breathes on this earth. The ones who are ugly are the ones who choose not to acknowledge another person with a simple "hi" on the street just because that person does not live up to their standards.

Desperate? We're only desperate when we give in to the actions/words of others who wish to keep people low because their own self esteem is in the toilet.

In the words of Monique in "Phat Girlz", We don't have a weight problem, you just have a problem with our weight.

Liz
 Da Exception

Joined: 7/5/2006
Msg: 163
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Posted: 11/2/2007 8:09:25 AM
^^^^^^^^^ Great post. It seems that this forum has taken a lot of shots at the larger white women. What you said makes a lot of sense and it says a lot about people who consider us black men being desperate b/c some of us choose to date something other than the universal image of beauty.
 Da Exception

Joined: 7/5/2006
Msg: 164
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Posted: 11/3/2007 3:46:31 PM
I thought we all were giving this forum a break until I recieved this in my mailbox. I can't tell who this poster is b/c I don't want to get kicked off but it will be pretty obvious after reading this. The subject line said BOY

"Hey BOY whaaaaasup? Know wha I'm sayin? So we both know you are loser and are in denial, but most blacks are so nothing new there right. I always find it funny though that the only white women that typically like blacks are ones that refer to themselves as BBW, A few extra pounds which we all know is a nicer way of saying they're FAT PIGS pretty much like the ones who are on your testimonials on your profile. What is it with coloreds liking fat women and fat women liking blacks? I guess its because both of you know neither of you can do better so because misery loves company you are naturally drawn to each other. Basically you black guys get the chicks us white guys want nothing to do with. And if you blackies manage to ever get a slim white woman you can almost be assured that she has low self esteem and morals and very low educational background."

I can't believe a grown man took time out of his life to email this to me. Thought you guys would get a kick out of it.
 mr. dynomite

Joined: 9/11/2007
Msg: 165
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Posted: 11/3/2007 3:53:07 PM
Isn't there a rule about harassing people w/ msgs that are racist?

i'd report it and get them banned.



 caliluv

Joined: 1/9/2007
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Posted: 11/4/2007 5:09:42 AM
Well,I don't get a kick out of B.S. He sent you a private meaasge with this #@$?! He is a coward..the rest of us have enough conviction to speak on our perceptions openly so others can have a change to voice their persepective. That's the problem with being a closet racisit...you are a coward with no back bone and more hatred than heart. They rest of us talk about what our perceptions and discuss what we think for clarification and possibly learn from someone else. That's the problem with hiding behind a sheet you aren't open to learning and growing like the rest of the world. I think it's SAD.
 Friendlione

Joined: 6/23/2006
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Posted: 6/15/2008 8:30:53 AM
Some Black men DO date women BECAUSE they are White. However, I would argue that these men are in the minority. According the census.gov website, the majority of married Black men are married to Black women. Despite this fact, we do hear a lot of talk about Black men worshiping White women. It is very annoying to me as well. There is a flip side that most people never really consider...

Sometimes a White woman can truly develop very strong feelings for a Black man and truly care for him, but be spurned because she is White and has to compete with Black females that are nasty, trashy, overweight, dumb etc (not BECAUSE they are Black women but because of individual choices. Such black women do exist). Many Black men will choose a Black woman OVER a White woman even though the White woman truly loves him and would "take care" of him. If we all treated people as individuals first and not as Black/White/Aisan people first, then this wouldn;t be a problem.
 finding_nemo76

Joined: 4/9/2008
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Posted: 6/15/2008 12:05:04 PM
Most of the myth is targeted to people with fetishes. It's not just the black people with these myth. You name it, it's been said about all race. White guys with black fetish, Asian guys with white fetish, White guys with Asian fetish, and etc... Don't think too much into it. If you are not among the minority that doesn't care about what's in the inside but only care to satisfy their fetish... The myth isn't targeted to you. Trust me, I've met my share of guys who didn't care about anything other than is she Asian. Some people are just attracted to some odd feature... For example, big butts, big boobs, blondes, and the list could go on and on... It's not just a race thing but an attraction thing!
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