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Posted: 8/12/2006 6:11:58 PM | K....gotz a glow on.....but bored....so be it
Alot of things in life are conspiracies, lots of peple want for only their own gain.
But the next 15 yrs are gonna shake the foundation we live on......hopefully good people are at the realm....hopefully
Besides all that, truly i dont care much about conspiracies....i only fear what man can do with powerful weapons.....thats it.
Hopefully things change, but so far i dont see it. Slowly were building up to a cresendo....and i don't like it | |
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Posted: 8/13/2006 6:03:30 AM | Osama working for the CIA is not opinion. His name was Tim Osman (spelling?) when he lived and worked in the US. The Bush crime family and the ben Ladens have been in business for many years. They set George up with his first oil business, which he ran into the ground.
What that says about the WTC is that Osama didn't do it. Osama himself said he didn't do it. Later the mainstream controlled media reported from the NSA/CIA/FBI that Osama said he did do it. More lies. Take some time and study the facts about 9/11 FROM INDEPENDENT SOURCES and you will see the thousands of pieces of evidence that prove it was an inside job. The two towers were not the only buildings demolished on 9/11, but the controlled media doesn't report on them because no planes hit them and they can't explain them away.
The rubble was illegally gathered up and destroyed with no investagation...by a company called Controlled Demolishions.
All of these attacks and faked plans of attack are to take your rights away, create more and more war, that they are selling the weapons for, and loaning money for.
theleafs post is worthless and does not merit a response.
Another study I have read says that the amount of DU that has been spread around the globe is already enough to sterilize the human race within three generations. Now "they" want to use even more nuclear weapons. There may not even be the 500 million(easy to control) people remaining that is part of the NWO plans.
Check out this article to see how "they" plan these attacks and how they really think: http://www.rense.com/general73/red.htm | |
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Posted: 8/13/2006 6:24:09 AM | I have an interest in listening to people talk about "conspiracies" and thei arguments, but there is no way that I can fill my life with trying to figure out what everyone is covering up. Man didn't land on the moon, they landed in wyoming or wherever the hell they said, whatever. The states blew up their own buildings as an excuse to go to war, sure. Polio vaccinations are also imbedded with a micro chip that will be used to track us all to keep us under wraps, whatever.
If I let myself start worrying about those things, then I am taking away from MY life and my CHILDRENS lives. I don't have time to listen to all this bullshit. I listen to the news and read the papers for what happens around here. But I could care less about what's happening over in istanbaraklavistan or wherever. I want to live MY life and be the best me I can be for my little ones and the lady who will stand beside me in my journey.
Truth seeker, you seem to have a prupose in life and good on ya mate. But I have more important things to worry about...and right now they are on my couch watching a movie until after I have a shower so we can go play some ball and not worry about who blew who up the ass.
I hear Brtiney Spears is secretly running money into the cia for them to send it to Bin Laden and Al Qaida so they can translate her songs and she can rule the world by cd sales in the mid east. | |
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Posted: 8/13/2006 8:34:59 AM | I don't have time to listen to all this bullshit. I listen to the news and read the papers for what happens around here. But I could care less about what's happening over in istanbaraklavistan or wherever. I want to live MY life and be the best me I can be for my little ones and the lady who will stand beside me in my journey.
Kudos on putting your family first Batmeister,
And whether or not you want to read this thread is your choice and I can respect that, but keep in mind respectfully, you also don't have to.
Whether or not you care to know what is happening in this world is your choice, and once again, I respect that, but know this, it affects us all. | |
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Posted: 8/13/2006 10:13:46 AM | KK, thank you for the kudos.
As I said, I have an interest in what people are thinking. That's about it. Everyone has choices in their lives and some of those are the coices of what they believe. I am not sure if it came over as being "you guys are all nuts, lay off the nutty juice" or something to that nature, as that was not my intent. It was something that I felt I had to put in there as it seems that some peoples "theories" or "facts" were being pushed onto people. Trying to be convinced of something that really is a lot of speculation.
I dunno. I wanted to put in here what was important to me in regards to these theories. If people solely believe that they are put on the earth to warn people of bigger things, great. That means they have purpose. They have a goal. And that is something that a LOT of people strive for everyday. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 8:56:07 AM | batmeister you are not alone. Most westerners would rather sit and pretend everything is a-ok. We tend to shelter our children from truth that hurts so we actually grow up with this built in blindness I like to call an editor. The greatest threat to freedom is an uninformed citizen and the greatest friend of freedom is an informed one. You think your couch will always be there, you think the fighting is over there, with people you could care less about. You think this does not effect you. You are in the majority, and are very wrong. Already the DU dust has spread the world over and chances are that you and your kids have particals in their lungs. So! you say! Well one partical in your lungs is like having an xray every day for the rest of your life. Don't you think you should be protecting your kids? Aspartame was created as ant poison and works well as such. Fluoride is for dumbing people down and causes cavaties. Studies have shown that introducing fluoride into the water supply lowers the average IQ by 10% and "they" are increasing fluoride levels more and more.
Quote from article at rense.com: "DOW Chemical has been lobbying the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to allow it to spray a new fluoride-based pesticide (sulfuryl fluoride) on hundreds of foods prepared in the US.
If DOW gets its way, sulfuryl fluoride will become a major new source of fluoride, making it even more difficult for consumers to avoid fluoride in their daily lives.
What's worse, the levels of fluoride allowed to be sprayed on food will be shockingly high: 70 ppm for processed foods, 130 ppm for wheat products, and 900 ppm for dried eggs!"
Batmeister, don't you want your kids brains and bodies, or yours, to function?
batmeister, the new "terrorist laws" that the Canadian and US and UK,etc. governments have shoved through mainly in secrecy, are direct assults to our bills of rights and freedoms and constitutions.
batmeister have you ever heard of the expierment where you put a frog in a pot of water and very slowly bring the water to a boil? The frog will not even try to escape as it doesn't notice the changes. batmeister, you are in waters that are about to boil. These things do effect you and your childrens childrens children, if they will be able to reproduce.
As far as the so called moon landings. I grew up in the "space age" or so I was told. I didn't want to beileve it was all faked. I am a Star Trek fan! But I am not going to hide from the truth. There are hundreds of reasons that this could not have been done and can not be done today. Why do you think Russia or any other country has not attempted this? There are thousands of scientists working today to try to find a way to get through the Van Allen radiation belts that surrond this planet. Van Allen(now dead) came forward and said there was no way that anyone went to the moon. Then the government forced him to change his story. Do you understand that if your were on the moon it would be 250 degrees C in the sunlight and -250 C in the shade. Do you really believe those plastic space suits were capable of this kind of instant heating and cooling as one walked from shade to sun? Can you grasp the amount of power this would require and the strength of materials that would be needed? This is just a few examples that I found as I looked into this conspiracy. It is the same as 9/11; once you open up and honestly look at it without belief, without the brainwashing box influences, it is obvious.
batmeister, you don't need to read this or anything, you don't have to agree, but I think in your heart you are scared because you know I am not a lier. I am not crazy nor unstable nor violent. I don't want you or anyone to just believe what I have been saying. Belief is foolish. You can trust that I have given these subjects much thought and study and I am always prepared to look again to see a higher truth, and I do not generally jump to conclusions. I am far far from being perfect and my understanding is not complete. These understandings don't come easily to me either. There are times that I put myself through what I call information overload, and I struggle hard to grasp these things.
batmeister, and others, you will probably not see this but you have been hyptnotized and brainwashed and so have your parents and their parents. At some point (hopefully) you will allow yourself to take the red pill and see through some of the illusions. Once you have broken through one illusion it is easier to see through the rest.
It is easier to believe the lies and for a time you and our families may live in ignorant bliss, but eventually the water will boil. My suggestion, my hope for you, is to get out of the pot. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 9:36:25 AM | /rant
I'm an apathetic poet. I don't care so much that it's obvious I do care.  My theory is that everyone including myself sucks and is a hateful terrorist spreading their own propoganda. Everyone is also a loving saint baking cookies for orphans and walking senior citizens across the street.
Some guy suicide bombing a bus of people may feel he's doing the right thing, and to that same dude, having sex before marriage is WRONG (maybe this is why so much bombing goes on over there - they're not getting enough of that good stuff, and I don't mean Oreos)! Crazy? From our perspective, maybe yes, but not from his. What's "right" and what's "wrong"? Who's "good" and who's "bad"? I for one will not live my life by the separatistic/dualistic way of thinking crammed into my head all through my life. I'll understand the separatism and dualism, but I like to synthesize it. People are winning losers. People are losing winners. All of this does not mean I respect murderers and rapists as much as I do big booty girls and soft peanut butter cookies.
People dying sucks, but it's part of life. Once you recognize the universe within every minute thing and destroy your ego, this type of shit has no effect on you. Maybe I'm just bitter and too old for my age, but death is inevitable. We are impermanent. Someday I'll die, but it will be a comedy as much as a tragedy. I used to dream of being a righteous crusader but now I'd rather just write my hypocritical/paradoxical views and opinions instead - all the while eluding madness.  | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 9:43:03 AM | ^^^^
Enjoyed the read
The only reason i get involved at anytime with political movements, thoughts or ideas. Is.....
While i may die.......our childrens, childrens, children. Dont have to......truly they can live forever. We are that close to it. But only if we dont all kill ourselves in the meantime | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 2:11:28 PM | Some more independent real news sites:
http://www.911truth.org/
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646
http://www.911blogger.com/
http://jackblood.netfirms.com/home/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
http://www.globaloutlook.ca/
http://www.truthstream.org/
http://www.rbnlive.com/
http://www.tvnewslies.org/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/
If you don't like reading then how about listening to some good honest talk shows for free. Go to gcnlive to get a schedual of their broadcasts. Some of the shows are a joke but three of them are the best place to hear real thinking and real news. The Power Hour, Alex Jones, and Deadline Live are excellent. I don't go for the religious opinion/beliefs on The Power Hour or Alex Jones but I can filter that stuff out. If you are unfamiliar with Alex Jones, he does get upset and rants at times but his frustration is understandable. Jack Blood is quickly becomming my favorite show but they are all the greatest friends of freedom.
To listen for free, I use WinAmps media library and do a search on the Shoutcast network for "gcn" or Alex Jones etc. I only have access to a phone line connection so I use the 8 and 16 bit streams which are poor quality sound but work and are the free streams. Add two hours to the schedual for Nova Scotia time. gcn network 2 for: 9am- The Power Hour, 1PM for Alex Jones; gcn network 3 for 4PM's Jack blood. They all took the red pill. Me? .... I took a handfull :-)
One more thing for today, a note for kismetrickarma. I would like to say that I am very impressed with your grace in the way you communicate with people. We all can learn from that. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 5:16:37 PM | I tried to read all the post on this thread and I`m still reading, trying to figure out what everyone is saying. By no means am I going to argue any pionts as I`m not sure what the truth is but I`m willing to listen and read on what is said.I`m not sure where I have read this but I believe that the U.N., (NWO) wants to delete 80% of the worlds population. I believe that Alex Jones said that Prince Phillip signed a document agreeing to this and it is avaibile to the public to see, you just have to ask for it he said. Is it trus that the Saudi`s own one third of the U.S., ? 9/11 still confuses me as it is said that there werent any planes that hit them. I do believe that if they did hit them that they werent the reason for comming down. I been in construction for 20 years and always wanted to be an engineer. I have learned manythings over the years and I cannot see these planes brining them down. Timothy McVeigh wasnt the only reason for the federal building, just the goat. I looked at many pictures of that building and there are too many views on things being blown outward not inward where the van was located, after all there werent any ATF agents in the building that day, I wonder why. it was their head office. I guess they had a company picnic that day.
I do believe that aids was developed by the government , for population control and that the media is controlled to the max. War is good business just bad for common folk. In my opnion George Bush is the biggest terriost and is controlled by the NWO. I dont believe what the media always have to say but use it as a reference point to do further research. I`m not sure what the future has in store but I know it isnt good as world war three isnt far off and a global disaster to follow. Prices on goods inflate as wages deflate . Our governments do what they have to do to control us and there isnt anything we can do but go with the flow. I feel there is no escape from the NWO . Someday I`ll figure this all out but I wont dwell on it as there is nothing can do to change things. I`ll still live as I choose till I die and hopefully wont have to witness a global conflict that might end up on my doorstep. Peace for now, looking foward to reading the rest of the post and the future ones to be written.As a scurffy old dude sings, Keep on rockin in the free world. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 5:41:53 PM |
...and a global disaster to follow.
You said it.....the way this world is going with global warming, the earth is going to be gone in fewer than 50 years anyway. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 6:28:40 PM | I find a pretty reputable site used by a lot of students studying International Relations is Human Rights Watch's website (www.hrw.org). They are a non-governmental organization, are WELL researched and have investigators on site. Their reports revolve around violations of International Law and the Geneva Convention. If you want to find out about the actual human impacts during wartime or what nasty things both sides have been up to, they are a really good source.
This was the group that spearheaded the ban against landmines.
Here is a summary of a report they did of Israeli/Lebanon conflict.
http://hrw.org/reports/2006/lebanon0806/2.htm#_Toc142299220
I think it shows their style nicely.
Their mandate is to monitor current political situations, human rights abuses,to analyze, and report on their findings to the UN and government officials. They also publish and distribute their reports to put pressure on governments and the UN to comply. Their reports are not politically motivated but humanitarian in nature.
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Posted: 8/14/2006 9:11:23 PM |
One more thing for today, a note for kismetrickarma. I would like to say that I am very impressed with your grace in the way you communicate with people. We all can learn from that.
Thank you TS  | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 6:12:37 AM | Speaking of that scurffy old dude, Neil produced a song(Roll On?) about flight 93 that was shot down. At the time he beileved the lies of 9/11. Listen to his songs today and you will see he knows differently now.
Planes did hit the twin towers but not the Pentagon. You are correct kewlfewl that the OKC bombing was from the inside. Many news releases at the time reported that two of the three bombs did not go off and I saw the bomb disposal units going in to disarm and remove them. Yet another faked terrorist plot. Looks like you took the red pill!
I came here today to make a prediction after listening to 10 hours of talk shows and spending the last couple nights listening to CNN's lies. I think that Lebanon's army is going to join forces with Hezbollah when they get to the south and try to force Isreal's army out of their country. I may be wrong, it is difficult reading between the lies. Hey, the forum does say theories, so here is another one:
THEORY about AIDS. Did you notice all the people saying HIV-AIDS, to make you think it is the same thing? Did you hear them calling it the AIDS virus? AIDS is a condition and as far as I can tell, no one has proven that the HIV virus causes AIDS. In fact the "experts" said that 90% of the people with HIV don't know they have it. Could that be because they don't have any symptons(AIDS)? I have read about people with HIV that have insisted that HIV does not cause AIDS and they have been living healthy lives with the virus for many years. I think it is the drugs that cause AIDS, that shut down the immune system and kill. Just a theory folks, but a strong feeling it is true. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 7:40:54 AM |
Planes did hit the twin towers but not the Pentagon.
I actually just finished watching a disk, which contained facts about the pentagon being a fraud!!! There were a bunch of analysts that analized the size if the whole made in the Pentagon and the size of the so-called-plane doesn't make sense. the width of the whole made as I think 63 feet the wing span of the plane was twice the size. Also the height of the building was 40ft and the height of the plae was almost 50 but the top of the roof caved in and wasn't damaged. Also with all the fuel left in the plane they would of had to excavate the groud to remove the polutants...that never happened. Weird that's all I have to say.....there is definitely something going on......who knows what it is.
I don't know about what you all heard about the planes either but I heard that they were shot down by american planes. And the planes that were shot down there wasn't any sign of passenger seats, luggage nothing.......
all of your guys' insight is very interesting.
I think that Lebanon's army is going to join forces with Hezbollah when they get to the south and try to force Isreal's army out of their country
I have a strong feeling about that too.....if that happens it's going to be an all out war over there.....poor civilians getting caught up in it. If Lebanon does they are purosely inflicting harm on there people....I understand that they already have gotten bombed but it'll be worse. Thank goodness some people have been pulled out of there. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 7:47:36 AM | | Man, you folks gotta take some Happy Pills or something. How depressed can you be to think up all this negativity?? | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 2:15:36 PM | | At "prisonplant.com" you can watch videos that spectators recorded during the fall of the towers. The videos show bombs exploding 20, 30, 40 floors below where the planes hit, right at the outer edge of the building at key support beams. After these strategically placed "bombs" exploded, the building started to drop. The bombs exploded in a clear pattern down the side of the building to "ensure" the building fell. Interesting stuff. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 2:16:30 PM |
Man, you folks gotta take some Happy Pills or something. How depressed can you be to think up all this negativity??
Yet you're here reading it and taking time to post teehee ;-)
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Posted: 8/15/2006 2:19:05 PM | The hermit of Gulley Lake had the master plan and followed it throught to the end, he knew something we didnt. I might become a hermit  | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 2:19:19 PM | Man, you folks gotta take some Happy Pills or something. How depressed can you be to think up all this negativity??
Ahh the Leafs :) we're not being negative, 'just in the know', we go beyond the media and reading the local newspaper, 'tis all.
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Posted: 8/15/2006 2:38:19 PM | Steven Harper Is Spiderman lol kidding(I am pointing that incase someone believes me LOL  ) | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 3:27:06 PM | | After seeing Loose Change, it is next to impossible to at least wonder WTF with regards to the 9/11 catastrope. And if you can believe that could be something other than it was, there really aren't any limits to what you can open your mind to. But some of you 'theorists' are just a little too 'imaginative' for my liking. Interesting, conceptually, however, and food for thought, regardless... | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 3:37:02 PM | | I think conspiracy theories are like addictions....the more you read and the more you learn, the more you become addicted to finding out more. Which is why I generally try not to read TOO much about them LOL. ;-) | |
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