| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 7:56:27 AM | well about the kids, yes that is right he was not very clever or maybe just too selfish, but maybe to commit suicide was the best thing that he could have done, u can not say that is clever to be alive, and u can not say that is clever to be dead, it is a question of taste, it is like to like blondes or brunnettes
Any yes i suppose he was very clever to know were to take the best drugs | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 11:45:03 AM | | Suicide is never the best option! Hope is your best option. I don't care if he was on drugs, I don't care if they were the best drugs, and I don't care if he's a tortured soul. I can honestly say it is much more clever to stay alive, than it is to take your own life. How clever can you be when you are dead, and it wasn't even by anyone elses hand but your own? A man of great influence, such as "Kobain", should have rose above all of that, and realized he was a leader rather than a follower. As much as he influenced others, he allowed himself to be influenced by drugs and his negative surroundings. His songs... clever. Himself as a man... not so clever. He squandered his gift on drugs, and as much as we want to love "Kobain" everyone will admit that taking his own life, was not the best decision in the world. I would much rather he be alive, than pretend he is a martyr. He killed himself! He should have been tough enough to survive, if for anything, his music and his child. I'm not going to pretend it is "cool" to die young just because you are a "rockstar". That's not acceptable. | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 11:50:56 AM | Last year I saw a program about his life, and I often wonder if he was ever meant to perform "publicly">? He was supposedly an intensely shy and private person. When Nirvana became "famous" is when Kurt started going downhill, and he continued on the downward spiral. This program basically stated that more than anything he wanted to hide from the "fans"...
Life is so very comlicated at times~~ | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 12:28:36 PM | | Cobain was pretty clever lyrically, I find. Heart-Shaped box has some of my favorite lyrics. | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 1:03:08 PM | | Yes I think he was clever, he was a true artist with something to say, he said it, Its a shame he took his life. | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 3:23:12 PM | Would I call him clever? Well his blowing his brains out made him a legend.
The guy was a talented song writer. Horrible guitarist. And did more to hurt instrumentalization of rock music, than maybe anyone I have ever seen. The dude practically killed mainstream guitar playing.
He made kids think it was cool not to try and get better at it. Cause if you practiced, you were not cool.
Pearl Jam was always a superior band. | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:17:31 PM | Are we talking clever or talented here? Clever... I dunno if that is the right word to describe Kurt. Good song writer... sure.
I'm probably opening myself up to a lot of flaming by saying this. But I think Grohl and the Foos are a better band. Hard to compare Kurt to Dave though.
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:23:26 PM | Dave Grohl is a super-talented guy, and he tried to stick by Kurt. There are just some people, I think, who become so "mired" in their addiction that they truly don't see any way out. Yes, suicide is a very selfish thing to do and it hurts everyone except the person who commits it. Yet, it happens every day, and it doesn't seem to pick and choose, doesn't matter if you're an artist or a grocery store clerk, know what I mean>?  | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:37:13 PM | I love Nirvana, they will probably always be my fav band...
I think his lyrics weren't always supposed to make sense - some times they were personal, sometimes stories, and other times fragments of poetry stiched together...
CK's true genuis was his ability to make riffs... I doubt anyone else will ever sound like them...
Yup, the drugs probably ddin't help him - much the same was Layne Staley (AIC) wasn't positivly affected by them...
As for the comment about the way he sounded at "unplugged", wow... I tend to think that was one of their better live performances...
I really wish I could have seen them live, but even if they came to town when I was aware of them, an already over-controlling parent would have tightened the reighns...
I have a couple live albums, and the later ones are far better than the earlier ones (at least from what I have)...
Just to make myself seem a little more off the deep end - I half suspect more facts surrounding his demise will come forth... something didn't seem right... (flame away) | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/12/2006 11:00:34 PM | | I think Kurt was one of the greatest writers at that time and in that music genre. I'm not saying he's the best performer who ever lived, but there was something about him. I truly think people were drawn to him. So clever>? Not really the word, but talented, yes | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/13/2006 1:32:57 AM |
As for the comment about the way he sounded at "unplugged", wow... I tend to think that was one of their better live performances...
I agree! | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/13/2006 11:49:02 AM | | Kurt was an amazing musician.His song lyrics were a mixture of observations,experiences,viewpoints and contradictions(like pretty much any other great songwriter).Not many people realize how well he could play guitar,but the guy is a genius with distortion. | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/13/2006 5:46:51 PM | | Has anyone seen the movie 'Last Days' by Gus Van Sant? It's his take on the days leading up to Kurt's suicide. Not a lot of dialogue in it although Kim Gordon(Sonic Youth) who was a close friend of Kurt's has an interesting all be it small role. | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/13/2006 9:00:12 PM | | Discodaddy, I guess I was referring more to the way he looked during the "unplugged." He had on a heavy sweater, never moved from his stool, his hair was extremely greasy... He just looked very unhealthy. Not that he was ever some GQ guy, but he was "hunched" over and just looked sort of skinny and, hmmmm, I'm not sure>? | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/13/2006 10:12:10 PM | Hopefully there is a place in the great beyond, where musicians go to jam.
Kurt Cobain playing acoustic guitar with John Lennon.
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/14/2006 2:02:46 AM | Personally, I would rather see John Lennon and George Harrison "jam" in heaven then Mr. Cobain.
No comparrisons there.
I doubt in another 30 years that Nirvana will be reveried as they are now. But you can bet your bottom dollar that the Beatles will still be!
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/14/2006 2:13:34 AM | | You may be underestimating the influence, of Kurt... He has left his mark, and he will be reveried for a long long time. It's been over ten years since he passed, and it feels just like yesterday! | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/14/2006 3:39:18 AM | my point of view about his suicide is different, i think it has to be a right to die, cos the right to live in theory is defended by a lot of people.
one feeling that i can feel in kurt kobain lyrics is love for the death, like in jim morrison lyrics too. they were in drugs, maybe it is just a common thing between drug addicts
but i was saying he was clever cos he can transmit his feeling thought the music in a v good way and at the end it seems that he did what he wanted, to die | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/14/2006 11:45:07 AM | Some people do think a bit more "morbidly" than others. He may have been depressed his whole life, with music as his only pleasure and outlet.
I have a best of CD and noticed in at least 2 songs he talks about having a gun.... I'm sure it's something that was always in the back of his mind.
I also think he and Nirvana will be remembered always... Even my daughter likes to listen to them, and she normally only listens to hip hop or rap~~~~ | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/14/2006 12:04:45 PM | Hey livewire you should be able to rent it I don't know if big chain stores like Blockbuster would carry it. Someone bought it for me for Xmas so it is out there.
As for Kurt's depression my non-medical expertise would suggest bipolar disorder just from seeing various interviews and his other well publicized behaviour. Couple this with a drug addiction, an affinity for firearms, increasing paranoia and feelings of isolation and well... | |
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| was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/14/2006 12:14:38 PM | Hey thanks munk... I think I'll go check out a few places today. I do agree, he probably had some deep-seated problems. At least he was able to make his "mark" years ago.... And is still making it~~~ | |
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