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 muneca~brava

Joined: 5/23/2007
Msg: 76
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 6/14/2007 2:55:52 PM
toonsmith-------
 Blueberry eggos

Joined: 4/15/2007
Msg: 77
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 6/15/2007 3:59:54 PM
Not sure if clever is the right word.He didnt always write words that flowed logically but rather how they just sounded and he often changed the words in the studio just to get it to sound the way he wanted.Whatever he did, it obviously worked.How many other artists can have this kind of inpact and discussion long after the fact?
 AS$HOLE

Joined: 6/11/2007
Msg: 78
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 6/16/2007 4:11:16 PM
I Think Kurt Cobain was on his own level. A lot of the time I dont get where hes coming from but sometimes the lyrics sort of show you something.
I think he had his own talent, like the band Sublime. Its sad theyre both dead.
 muneca~brava

Joined: 5/23/2007
Msg: 79
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 6/20/2007 9:32:41 PM
Sublime---


NO COMMENT.
 Derferret

Joined: 5/31/2007
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Posted: 6/21/2007 8:13:21 AM
Personally I lost all respect when he played toesy with that damn shotgun trugger. Sure, he had a knack for lyrics, and his voice was, despite being what most people would call "trash", true to him. It wasn't some dolled up voice that you could tell was electronically manipulated into something better than it really was. Hell, the only 'pop' artist that has any real vocal talent that I can think of that's come about in the last few years is Christina Agulera [That girl can SING]. Not necesarily a fan of the music, but I can respect the true voice that they have.

Dave Grohl was the most talented member of Nirvana. Sings, guitar, drums... all quite well too.
 Heavenlydead

Joined: 5/6/2007
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Posted: 6/21/2007 9:20:40 AM
yeh he's a stunner!! and an amazing song writer!!!
i lurv him to bits!!! lol x
 Kaos86

Joined: 3/7/2007
Msg: 82
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 6/21/2007 12:18:21 PM
The man was a musical genius. But he was terribly messed up.
That was certainly a part of his genius.
You can feel the depression in his lyrics and music.
What a shame.
 Thatguy67

Joined: 9/20/2006
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Posted: 7/23/2008 12:10:10 PM
Talented & troubled he was.

I wish he'd had taken a page out of John Lennon's life and take 5 years off.

Take the time to C\clean himself up and raise his daughter. Oh well....

Nirvana did a great cover of "Man Who Sold The World."


 sam-spade

Joined: 12/2/2007
Msg: 84
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 7/23/2008 6:58:12 PM
I never got into his stuff much. Just too busy living life at the time. But a friend of mine came up to me in our watering hole and said "Kobain is dead." "So?" "You must feel the same way your parents felt when you told them Hendrix died eh?" I realised what he was saying so I dug into his music. I can see what my nieces and nephews saw in him. Sorry I missed the ride.
 harveywallbanger

Joined: 12/25/2005
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Posted: 7/24/2008 4:18:41 AM
Nirvana was a good band. Its too band the singer had so many demons.

But in my assessment after a decade and a half we can see real talent that sprang forth from that band. Dave Grohl is an amazing musician in his own right. And I believe he probibly played a bigger part in the genius of Nirvana than we know.
 Darkwon

Joined: 7/9/2008
Msg: 86
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 7/25/2008 12:54:44 AM
i think he was a good lyricist, but as a musician, he couldn't hold up.
woulda made a better poet in my opinion.
 crazything84

Joined: 6/24/2008
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Posted: 7/25/2008 12:55:54 AM
Hell no his lyrics were stupid and you tell me what the F**k was he saying?
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 7/28/2008 10:00:32 AM

Nirvana,Pearl Jam,..and a few other bands changed the face of music for a generation to come,,,I would like You to tell Me how it is better off with out them..please back this up?????????????.........the charts say differently.

Kurt Kobain.....was a nobody that made it out of no where,
this crap I hear on the radio now ...papper cut out bands, make Me sick it all sounds the same,


Just to play devil's advocate here, you could argue that music is bad today because of them since technically, it was their influence on pop culture that brought you all the watered down, generic crap you have on the radio today.

All of your Nickelbacks and your 3 Doors Downs and your Seethers ultimately happened because of the Seattle scene making the shift in popular music from cðck rock to alternative rock.


Personally, I loved all the Seattle bands. That was a fun and exciting time to be a music fan.


I'm also curious as to what bands Just Smile would defend as being superior to Nirvana. Not saying there aren't any. Just curious as to which ones he considers better.
 sarcastic_smileygirl

Joined: 10/13/2005
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Posted: 7/28/2008 2:14:18 PM
I think Nirvana and Cobain were both completely overrated, but that's just my humble opinion.
 lawman1876

Joined: 9/17/2008
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Posted: 9/20/2008 7:33:49 PM
Well, he once admitted to trying to write a Pixies record while composing the songs for NEVERMIND. Clever or not, he had good taste.
 supernovastunnah

Joined: 4/26/2008
Msg: 91
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Posted: 9/20/2008 8:55:34 PM
yeah
because really clever people kill themselves all the time
and really clever people write a bunch of depressing songs and sell them to teenagers.
thats soooo clever.
 Dr.Manhattan

Joined: 8/1/2008
Msg: 92
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Posted: 9/20/2008 9:07:24 PM

yeah
because really clever people kill themselves all the time
and really clever people write a bunch of depressing songs and sell them to teenagers.
thats soooo clever.


^^^^ya.. your name says it all.


Dave would still be a smear on the wall if it wasn't for Nirvana.

at his current time Kurt gave a lot of people something to listen too when most music was
spewing down the gutter...........um like say how it is now.?


 wickedstring

Joined: 9/7/2008
Msg: 93
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 9/20/2008 9:16:21 PM
I don't care what anyone says. Nirvana was a great band and fun to watch.
 supernovastunnah

Joined: 4/26/2008
Msg: 94
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 9/20/2008 9:25:57 PM
yeah well your name says it all too so take that.....

i always loved in bloom
i listened to nirvana alot as a teenager and it ****ing depressed the shit out of me,no other music has ever done that to me
 Dr.Manhattan

Joined: 8/1/2008
Msg: 95
was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 9/20/2008 9:38:24 PM

i listened to nirvana alot as a teenager and it ****ing depressed the shit out of me,no other music has ever done that to me



ahh yes music to slash your wrists too...


Not only was Kurt great writer he was aslo a fantastic guitar player.
 wickedstring

Joined: 9/7/2008
Msg: 96
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Posted: 9/21/2008 9:20:51 PM

yeah well your name says it all too so take that.....


eh?
 harveywallbanger

Joined: 12/25/2005
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Posted: 9/22/2008 12:11:58 AM

Not only was Kurt great writer he was aslo a fantastic guitar player.


Now I think your letting your nostalgia get in the way of reality. He was an alright musician that was in the right place at the right time. It happens alot.
 tallmat1972

Joined: 9/18/2008
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Posted: 9/22/2008 1:04:38 AM
"Now I think your letting your nostalgia get in the way of reality. He was an alright musician that was in the right place at the right time. It happens alot."

Pass the pipe dude....Kurt Cobain was an EXCELLENT well above average musician all around. And he didn't kill himself. Courtney Love killed him.

R.I.P. Kurt!
 INTOART

Joined: 3/12/2008
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Posted: 9/22/2008 5:04:14 AM
The dude offed himself. That was not the least bit clever!
 Thatguy67

Joined: 9/20/2006
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Posted: 9/22/2008 5:15:44 AM
"Courtney Love killed him."

Are you saying Love actually pulled the trigger or that she was such a bad influence that it lead to him killin' himself?

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