| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 5:56:39 PM | Actually my point was that Jesus was a prophet of peace, whereas Mohammed was a man of war. Jesus involved himself in no war, Mohammed did, can you prove otherwise.?
You can only call someone a man of war if he is going to attack willfully. Based on what you are claiming, he hasn't attacked anywhere but only for self defense, which is totally valid to me. He hasn't let plunderers rape and plunder and has stopped their attack, which is totally sane thing to do. Just like the rest of the world will do today.
Besides, their religion doesn't only claim that it is a "religion", but rather it teaches man about all aspect of life including how to defend themselves.
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Posted: 1/13/2006 8:00:21 PM | | Jimy, is avoiding answering my questions your answer? I am not surprised that you endorse Ron Wyatt. He has been wrote off as a fraud by every respectable archaelogical organization as he too fails to produce any evidence. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 8:02:45 PM |
but rather it teaches man about all aspect of life including how to defend themselves.p
So the Muslims still fight with swords, camels and horses then?? | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 8:51:31 PM | So the Muslims still fight with swords, camels and horses then??
Provide us a verse from their Koran regarding using horses, camels and all. It looks to me that you have no knowledge of either religion. (Never...) | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 9:08:08 PM | If you guys are fighting with horses and camels I want in, I got my sword of the Word.   | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 9:23:25 PM | Besides, their religion doesn't only claim that it is a "religion", but rather it teaches man about all aspect of life including how to defend themselves.
Your words ^^^, so give me a quote from the Koran that shows the Muslims how to defend themselves...You still have not provided me with any evidence that Jesus or any of the Old testment prophets fought in any war....
Another thing that interests me (seeing as you are knowledgeable on Islam).
Question..What did Yassar Arafat mean when he said about the peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis
"This agreement, I am not considering it more than the agreement which had been signed between our prophet Mohammed and Quraish"
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Posted: 1/13/2006 9:40:10 PM | I thought we had done the "smoking thing" to death on the other thread.. | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 7:10:33 AM | Question..What did Yassar Arafat mean when he said about the peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis
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Oh ya. Ok then I give up???? | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 7:25:09 AM |
Your words ^^^, so give me a quote from the Koran that shows the Muslims how to defend themselves...You still have not provided me with any evidence that Jesus or any of the Old testment prophets fought in any war....
You haven't backed up any of your own claims. How come you are asking me to back up my claims?
As far your Jesus, I have already posted you all thoses verses a few posts back where AWESOME TREATMENT has been dictated there. lol.
Question..What did Yassar Arafat mean when he said about the peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis
"This agreement, I am not considering it more than the agreement which had been signed between our prophet Mohammed and Quraish"
Who the fuk cares about Yassar Arrafat? Anyone can jump around and say something. Just if someone's name is Islamic doesn't mean he represents Islam. | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 12:12:12 PM | .Just if someone's name is Islamic doesn't mean he represents Islam.
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And just cause someone calls themself a christian does`nt mean they belong to organized religion     | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 2:02:40 PM | "This agreement, I am not considering it more than the agreement which had been signed between our prophet Mohammed and Quraish"
Its understandable that you would not understand the relevance of what Yasser Arafat stated as you were only around 11 years old when he said that. Arafat and his Islamic listeners were very aware of and understood the reference. However if you knew the Koran and Mohammed's history of the dealings with Quraish as well as you imply you would have been able to give an answer. Thanks anyway, I'm done with this thread... | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 7:04:56 PM | Your not gonna play camels, horses and swords anymore > Drat
I was joking . I know you weren`t talking to me...  | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 7:11:43 PM | | No, I was not meaning you Strange. I just prefer not to get involved in a battle of wits with a defenseless person... | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 8:33:18 PM | Maybe I missed it, but with all this arguing, I don’t see where anyone has really tried to answer the original question. First of all--just to get this out of the way—Oral Roberts is a false prophet. Sadly enough, there are a lot of them today.
Yes, there was much more prophecy in the Old Testament. But wasn’t most of the prophecy in regards to Jesus? There were more than 300 prophecies of Jesus in the Old Testament, all of which came true. And no, they couldn’t have been written after the fact. The Old Testament was written well before Jesus was born. Since the Old Testament prophets prophesied about Jesus, and that has all come true, what need is there for prophecy, except concerning Christ’s return? We don’t need any new prophecies. It’s all been written down already.
But although God doesn’t speak in the same way he did in the Old Testament, we definitely don’t have a silent God. Anyone who belongs to him, has a relationship with him, and prays to him will also hear from him. He really does speak to those who love him. But there won’t be any new revelations. There’s no need for it. | |
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Posted: 1/14/2006 9:48:08 PM | [But wasn’t most of the prophecy in regards to Jesus?]
Factually, this is a debateable topic. Some have brought up the possibility of the life of Jesus
being written to fit the prophecies of the Old Testament. One major objection was his birth
in Bethlehem, since his family was not of that town.
I understand talking to God, but I do question His actually speaking directly to anyone as was
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Posted: 1/14/2006 10:06:40 PM | Well, he doesn't speak out loud any more. But he definitely speaks.
I understand a lot of people try to discredit the Bible and come up with all sorts of so-called facts. Sometimes it takes a lot more faith to believe what the scoffers come up with! | |
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Posted: 1/15/2006 9:48:33 AM | There was a huge Church built under a Dome near me for several years. It has since been torn down and sold to a Lowe's home improvement store. They used to have a little marquee sign out front advertising "Prophet Kim Clement". People would flock to see this guy. I was never tempted. I figured if a true prophet came around he would not be embraced as those in the Bible were not. The Newspapers did stories about this guy and some of the shady things going on but people still came to see him. The Church made alot of money and relocated and from what I understand today sits nearly empty out in a rural area. Kim Clement is spinning his shlock somewhere else these days.
I wonder if he foretold what would become of this Congregation? | |
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Posted: 1/15/2006 11:24:03 AM |
Its understandable that you would not understand the relevance of what Yasser Arafat stated as you were only around 11 years old when he said that. Arafat and his Islamic listeners were very aware of and understood the reference. However if you knew the Koran and Mohammed's history of the dealings with Quraish as well as you imply you would have been able to give an answer. Thanks anyway, I'm done with this thread...
Like I said who cares about Yassar Arafat and the rest of his gang. You can't talk about a religion based on actions of people. If you would like to discuss religion, we only discuss religion. I don't get involved in people's affairs and different cultures and traditions. Since your asking me that question has nothing to do with we have been talking about, I consider you an individual who doesn't know how to debate and just tries to fool around.
Good luck next time.
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Posted: 1/15/2006 1:38:08 PM |
There was a huge Church built under a Dome near me for several years.
The mention of Dome, reminds me of a book titled "The Hidden Beast". It speaks of the the Dome of the Rock being the "abomination of desolation" spoken of in the bible. And of course we know which prophet that is devoted to. He claims that Mohammed is the False Prophet of the book of Revelation. He uses some pretty convincing dating from the book of Daniel and Jerimiah..
"Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the continual burnt offering is taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate is set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."
Using the general bible scholars acceptance of the date of 583 B.C. as being when regular sacrificies were abolished, he counts the 1290 days as years method to give a total of 1271.49 solar years, this places the Dome of the Rock (which was built around 685-705 AD) smack during the target for the start of the 42 months of Revelation (and the holy city they (the gentiles) shall thread underfoot for forty and two months) Using the date of 688 AD as a starting point (42 months being 1278.34 days as solar years) the 42 "months" period ended in 1967 AD, the six day war to liberate Jerusalem..
I have not been able to see a flaw in the guys reasoning...Blessed be the real prophets that God told of future events...
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Posted: 1/15/2006 1:43:38 PM | | Then that would put 1967 as the end of the day of the Gentiles which really does make sence. That`s what I thought too when I first read the post was that he was talking about the dome of the rock. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2006 1:58:16 PM |
The mention of Dome, reminds me of a book titled "The Hidden Beast". It speaks of the the Dome of the Rock being the "abomination of desolation" spoken of in the bible. And of course we know which prophet that is devoted to. He claims that Mohammed is the False Prophet of the book of Revelation. He uses some pretty convincing dating from the book of Daniel and Jerimiah..
"Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the continual burnt offering is taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate is set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."
Using the general bible scholars acceptance of the date of 583 B.C. as being when regular sacrificies were abolished, he counts the 1290 days as years method to give a total of 1271.49 solar years, this places the Dome of the Rock (which was built around 685-705 AD) smack during the target for the start of the 42 months of Revelation (and the holy city they (the gentiles) shall thread underfoot for forty and two months) Using the date of 688 AD as a starting point (42 months being 1278.34 days as solar years) the 42 "months" period ended in 1967 AD, the six day war to liberate Jerusalem..
I have not been able to see a flaw in the guys reasoning...Blessed be the real prophets that God told of future events...
There is no proof that the verse of the Bible are accurate as well. If you go to different churches and ask them as I have done myself, they are going to tell you that the Bible is 99.9*% accurate. lol. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2006 2:34:01 PM |
Then that would put 1967 as the end of the day of the Gentiles which really does make sence. That`s what I thought too when I first read the post was that he was talking about the dome of the rock.
What will be interesting is when the Israelis try to rebuild the temple to re-institute the sacrifices. A whole priesthood is being trained. A pure red heiffer has already been raised in the US to cleanse the temple and the worship/sacrifice instruments.
Its thought by some that the Anti-Christ is the one who will help the Israelis accomplish this. Some go as far as to say the EU headed by the AC himself will boot the Muslims off the temple mount, thats when all "hell" breaks loose.. | |
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