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 Author Thread: Reached a plateau - how can I continue losing weight,anyone?
 awaitingyu

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Posted: 2/8/2006 7:47:18 AM
What some of you who have posted previously seem to forget that you need a good amount of water also in your diet to h elp digest the food and process it alot faster, which in turn over time helps in your metabolism. If you are not drinking adequate amounts of water, you are not helping your cause. I drink ALOT of water and hence i'm rarely sick. Also my weight fluctuates from 3-8 lbs from the morning to night time from water retention. You need water in your system, it is critical. And that is all the more reason not to go by the scales numbers, cuz you have water in your system. Your body is mostly composed of water overall. 60% of your body weight is composed of water. And you should be drinking 8-8 oz. cups of water a day, but personally if you exercise AT ALL you should drink at least twice that. There is no thing as too much water unless you are a runner. Then you can't drink too much with all the sweating you do, you need electrolytes. If you exercise alot and/or live in a hotter climate, and so on you need more then the average obviously. When you swet, or breakdown muscle tissues when exercising you have to replenish what you lost.

And for the person who wac changing his diet and doesn't seem to think their metabolism is changing....you DON'T "see" if your metabolism changes, and another point is that it takes ALOT of time for you to change your metabolism, and it will never change "drastically". For some of you your metabolism is just what it is. You can alter it a little but it takes ALOT of time for that to happen. Your body needs to go through a major change for that to be accomplished. Even over a years time you may not see much of a change in your metabolism. It took years and years for some of you to put on the weight, it won't dissapear in a few weeks or months.

Also, to those of you who are watching 1 pound here and 1/2 pound there, are only going to drive yourself crazy doing that. You should not even be going by the scale but by how you look in the mirror. As you exercise you will add a little muscle on areas or your body and tone up eventually, which means you could lose 1 lb and also gain 1 lb at the same time, which in turn you will see as a failure cuz the total number didn't drop. You are messing with your mind by doing that.

Don't weigh yourself but maybe once or twice a month or you will drive yourself crazy. Also when you should be consuming the right amounts of water to help digest your food, you have to keep in mind that the fact that you might not be losing can be to water retention that you are acquiring as you go. Again, that is why you don't go by the SCALE.

It just sounds like alot of you want 5 lbs to just melt off you within a few days or weeks when that is not reasonable thinking. For alot of people if you start working out hard and changing your diet, you may not lose 1 lb in a months time, and then allof a sudden the pounds start chedding away the second month and so on. Everyones body chemistry and makeup is different. That is why there is no 1 diet plan and 1 way to do it.

Like I always say it has to start in the mind. Be realistic in your goals or you will be finding yourself in a constant climb.

Weighing yourself every day and worrying about 1/2 lb here and there is defeating the overall goal and purpose. People get to engulfed in the "number" and not in the "appearance" and that is where the smoke and mirrors that you put up fool you. Be realistic.

Stay away from the scale for a few weeks and concentrate on your diet and exercise and not on the numbers of the scale....some people take a month or longer for their body to kick in so to speak and before the weight begins to come off. Remember if you are exercising which you should be, you will be gaining a little weight in the little muscle you add on. You don't want to lose 10-20-40 lbs and be scrawny with no muscle.

And counting calories is a good thing, but keep in mind that there are good calories and bad calories, just like there are good carbs and bad carbs. You can't just drop taking carbs and calories, or your body goes into starvation mode which in tern makes your body use the muscle you have for protein to function. You DON'T WANT THAT. You need CARBS for energy. Otherwise you will be losing a pound here and there but your butt will be dragging day to day cuz you have absolutely ZERO energy.

the carbs are not what makes you gain weight, the fat is not what makes you gain the weight, it's the "type" of foods you eat and the timing as to when you eat them.

If you want a great book get this book:
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591201411/002-7342215-8521633?v=glance&n=283155
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there are different locations you can order it and this isn't just for body builders it's for anyone. It's about what you eat, when you eat it, and how it affects you. It has great information. I have a bunch of other books also that are excellent reads and very valuable to have.

Just too many people want the extreme "quick fix" and that is not realistic. For some of you it tooks YEARS to put on the access weight, you cannot expect to get rid of it in a jiffy...that WON'T happen. There is a thing people say that if you drop the weight too fast you will put it back on that much faster. You h ave to make it a lifestyle change so it STAYS off.
 ladypagey

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Posted: 2/8/2006 10:47:40 AM
awaitingyu... thanks for great advice... It is also valuable to have a support system where people encourage others to keep motivated and keep going even when the lifestyle seems gloomy...To each who have encouraged me since September thanks... still drinking my water, walking and trying to get back to eating sensibly...
 DnickieD

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Posted: 2/9/2006 5:56:02 AM
K, I believe Awaitingyu....It's been at least a month and I am still not losing any weight at all. I even quit smoking last Sunday night, and that has confused my body as well. It's out of nicotene, caffeine, and codeine, now. I'm sloshing around in veggies/fruit and buckets of water, trying to clean the toxins out of my system, and get back on track with my health. It took just about 3 months to put this weight on, but it's proving harder to lose this year.
 awaitingyu

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Posted: 2/9/2006 6:19:59 AM
^^^ yea so you are not only battling the "bulge" so to speak, but you are battling your will power too....and that is what discourages some people and makes them resort back to what is the "easier" of the two to tackle. Remember that alot of people gain a little weight after quitting smoking. Don't let it conquer you and dictate the direction you want to go in.

Stick it out, no one says anything with health, losing weight, conquering any addiction or habit, or obesity was easy work did they?

Anything you "change" in your life, whatever it may be isn't easy. It's easy to say something. The hard part is following through with it in the long run to benefit you. But down the road the benefits you will receive is what matters. And you will have yourself to thank ultimately when you are feeling better and enjoying life alot more and know in your mind you are living healthier.


Stick it out...it takes time for your body to get over the shock, be it quitting smoking or changing your diet.

Patience is the easiest thing if the will power is backing it up


Good luck....sometimes the hard part is making the decision to quit or lose, so you have tackled that already.
 DnickieD

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Posted: 2/9/2006 7:48:48 AM
You're absolutely right on Awaitingyu!!!

Stick it out, no one says anything with health, losing weight, conquering any addiction or habit, or obesity was easy work did they?


I smoked since I was 13, but have tried numerous times to quit. I've always lost the battle to quit or lose weight in previous years, and never once got past a few days of no smoking, but I think this is my final stand against smoking, as well as the bulge. Everyone's been fabulous in their encouragements and helpful suggestions and tips as well, and I'm grateful for any and all help, so I don't fall off the wagon any more.
 AnthonyJ

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Posted: 2/9/2006 11:47:50 AM
The hard part is worrying about the calories. It's depressing when you realize how many calories are in various foods - even the most nutritious - and how few calories your body actually needs to survive.

I mean, you could make yourself a "healthy" turkey sandwich on whole grain bread, light mayonnaise, lean turkey, reduced fat cheese and all the veggies, and the calories are still going to rival those that you would find in a Big Mac. Same thing with all of the reduced fat items that you find: muffins, pastries, crackers, breads, meats, e.t.c....The calorie counts are almost identical to the full fat versions simply because they have to add more ingredients - sugar usually - to make up for the loss of taste due to the fat reduction......

Counting calories sucks! It makes me down right neurotic; everytime I eat something I have this ongoing mathematical calculation going on in my head. Let's see, I had this many calories for lunch, so now I can only have a half a piece of bread and half a glass of milk for dinner; along with 1/2 of an apple.....LOL>.......It's ludicrous........I no longer count calories.....I just work really hard in the gym and select foods that are healthy, not overly processed, and not filled with vast amounts of sugar, fat and hydrogenated oils.............
 Raederle

Joined: 12/28/2005
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Posted: 2/10/2006 1:21:43 AM
Hello, just found this thread!


After eating a medicine that made me really hungry I gained a lot of weight and when I stopped taking the medicine I was too tired to do anything about it so I gained even more. But I'm finally on the right track, haven't really lost anything yet but I'm walking 30 minutes every day and eating propper breakfast, lunch and dinner instead of eating junkfood!
 awaitingyu

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Posted: 2/10/2006 5:50:04 AM
@Anthony: Counting calories isn't easy if u decide to go that route, but remember, there are "good calories" and there are "bad calories". You just need to know the difference between the two, and not beat yourself over the head on counting and you will be better off.

Meats have alot of calories but it is an excellent source of protien. You need the calories, just know which ones are/aren't healthy for you. In making a sandwhich don't worry about the meats, although the "type" of meats make a little difference, but it's the "additional" things people have a tendancy to "add" to their foods, like salt, mayonnaise, salad dressing. You could have a healthy meal sitting in front of you, and the moment you start adding all the additional junk to it, it takes a nose dive to not healthy. If you are a person who likes to add dressings and things of that nature, go with the low fat. They really don't taste much different at all.

And keep in mind, you want some fat in your diet, it won't kill you and you need them for your body to burn for energy and it not taking your protein(in your muscles) for it. Maybe 40/40/20 Carbs/protein/fat or 45/45/15 if you desire.

Don't beat yourself over the head counting calories so much as to the "type" of calories you are eating, that is more important to pay attention to.

2000 calories is around the daily recommendation before you have any chance of gaining any weight, which myself, and most people I know, is on the "very low end" of the chart to be honest. But keep in mind that that is for someone who sits on their butt and doesn't move a muscle. If you are active u better make sure you take in more or you will be scraping the bottom of your body for energy stores and will be dragging.

Like I said you still need calories to burn or your body will take to your protein stores to burn energy, which in turn will make you become "pudgy" because your muscle is non-existant so-to-speak and your body is keeping the fat you have to survive. It has to. Since muscle is metabolically active and thus constantly burns calories you should strive never to lose muscle mass.

------Lose muscle and you decrease the intensity of your body's furnace meaning you're actually slowing down metabolism. (WHICH YOU DON'T WANT!) -----

I have always been told that you should never reduce you daily calorie intake by more than 1000 calories without medical or dietitian supervision.

Here's a great read, don't just go by what other people are doing or saying all the time without reading up on things. Get knowledgible about what you are doing so you feel more comfortable and stable about the decisions you make.

Here is a great site for understanding calories/fat/carbs and so on....
It's very easy to read and it will make you understand certain things before you decide to cut/keep out comepletely or anything similar of anything in your diet. It is very in depth. Go through all the topics they have to answer any questions you have. I just gave you the link directly to "calories" but they talk about anything and everything.

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 AnthonyJ

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Posted: 2/10/2006 1:25:51 PM
Awaitingyu,

I hear you loud and clear.....You are very knowledgable and it's always nice to get another person's perspective.

Personally, I pay close attention to my diet and am pretty finicky about what I eat. I have been supplementing extra protein into my diet(whey protein) and I feel that that has made me stronger in the gym. My problem in the past was that my diet was always carbohydrate heavy, and I've made great strides in balancing things out...As a result of all of the heavy weight lifting that I do at the gym, I am striving to eat at least 1 gram of protein for every pound of body weight that I weigh. Being that I weigh about 185 pounds, that's 185 grams of protein. And that is extremely difficult for me to achieve. Some publications and "experts" say that a really active person should strive for even more protein - 1 1/2 to 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight - but I have my hands full with striving for just 1 gram. I am interested in increasing my strength and hopefully, in time, adding significant amounts of muscle.....Which leads me to an important question? Is it possible, in your opinion, to lose body fat and gain muscle at the same time? Theoretically it would seem impossible. However, I have witnessed select people who seem to be able to do this. Some "experts" say that you can do it, others say it is impossible.....From a purely scientific standpoint, it would seem impossible.....To gain muscle - or any weight - you have to take in more calories than your body burns so that you have a surplus in which to build with....To lose body fat or weight, you have to take in less calories than your body burns so that you create a deficit..........So, gaining muscle and losing fat are extreme opposites.......What are your thoughts?
 awaitingyu

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Posted: 2/10/2006 2:50:36 PM
To be honest, when you are in the gym trying to put on muscle, you are in turn burning the calories to burn the fat that you want. Now keep in mind, spot reduction is, if not impossible, is very hard to do but you can do it by "toning" certain areas. When they tighten up, the muscles will be working and growing and you will become more "cut" so to speak. You can target certain areas when gaining weight as far as adding muscle is concerned, but trying to lose fat, you will lose it overall on your body. When people see themselves losing weight, it naturally tends to be around the waist. For women that is the hardest area because their body keeps the fat in that area for child bearing reasons.

Your leg workout or anything regarding your "core" will burn the most calories in the gym and break the biggest sweat. lol

If you plan a great workout regimen to target your "whole body", and make sure your diet is very respectible, you shouldn't have any issues. What I see people doing in the gym alot is that they focus on just a few areas of the body like the chest, cuz with men your chest must be huge and all.....they don't do an "overall body" workout throughout the week and what happens is you see "chicken legs" on a guy with a big chest and arms lol.

You have days for chest, shoulders, back, legs, and for some they designate seperate days for arms. I, personally, do not like having a specific day for arms, because when you do your chest workout, you are using your triceps in every "push" move you make. Also, for shoulders you use your triceps ALOT for pushing. When you do your back workout, you are "pulling" for the majority of your back exercises, which in turn works your biceps extremely well. Now, after you have been working out for awhile and feel a need to "change your routine" which you shold do once in awhile, add a day here and there for a few weeks specifically for arms, but don't go over board. Than add a few exercises for your triceps, and biceps on your chest, and back day to hit the different "heads" of your biceps and triceps. Your triceps have 3 heads to them, so different exercises will hit them seperately.

Like I said, that is why there is no "1 workout" for every person. There are 100 different ways to tell someone how to workout or eat. It depends on your goals, your body "type", your lifestyle, and alot of other things.

When you do a full complete body workout through the week, you will get your body in a constant state of breaking down muscle and "Rebuilding" muscle to become stronger. But if you do not eat correctly everything you do in the gym will be a waste. You have to have both ends working like a well oiled machine.

Still have 5-6 meals a day, keep your 3 "larger" meals, breakfast, lunch and dinner, and have small meals inbetween but making sure you still get enough macronutrients in the other 2-3 meals, either by adding some easy foods to eat, or a protein shake.

If you honestly want to add muscle, 1g/1lb of body weight of protein should be your ultimate "minimum". It actually isn't as hard as you think to get about 35-40 grams per meal in of protein. It's just a matter of incorporating it into your schedule. That's where the shakes or the meal replacement bars come in handy. If you drink alot of milk you get alot right there. Milk, eggs, and fish are some of the best sources of protein you can have, and with fish you get your essential fatty acids that are great for you.

And you need enough calories for your body to tap into when you exercise, that is why you can't be stingy on calories and carbs. Just make sure you have healthy foods and you can't go wrong. There are good and bad calories, people think the word calories is a bad monster, but it's not. If you don't consume enough carbs throughout the day and before your workout you will be running on fumes and you "will" notice it.

I, myself, try to get at least 35g protein every 3 hours, and depending on my dinner, sometimes your dinner you can have about 60-70g, so you can go leaner on the numbers earlier in the day....remember, what you eat the day before is what your body will tap into for energy and building muscle the next day. Your body grows on the days you are not working out, people forget that, that is why "REST" is so critical. When I am ready to hit the gym, I get about 15-30g of protein within an hour before I go, and I also sip a carbohydrate drink with at least 100g of carbs for energy for the workout. The gatorade or powerade is great because it also has the electrolytes (depending on what you get) that will aid in your workout. Then immediately after my workout I take the same protein drink immediately after, because your body is in a state of recovery now and you need to feed what you just lost in your workout. Amino Acid supplementation, if you can afford it is one of the biggest supplements you can take throughout the day and especially before and after a workout.

Again, there are some great supplements you can take, and inexpensive that are natural, but can make a big difference overall.

For you, just starting, I would suggest Amino Acids, including the "essential Amino acids" in it. Twin Lab is great, Amino 1800 I believe it is....includes all the branched chained Aminos....and I have been using those for years. Also, Glutamine is an excellent supplentation to have for before and after a workout to help aid in recovery, to help you rebuild and not become too achey and sore from the workout of tearing your muscle fibers down.

i personally take 10 different supplements and powders. But I have an extremely high metabolism, so I can consume 5-6000 calories a day and i'm still a hardgainer. Not everyone is. My body is in a constant state of "burning", the human furnace I always say. That is where you want to get to at some point to raise your metabolism "over time". But if you know what supplements to take and when, it can really benefit you. I can workout as hard as I want, not feel sore (a good sore, meaning you pushed your muscles to the limit) and still burn to stay lean and gain to get stronger and add muscle. If you are constantly adding lbs on your weights in the gym avery week then you are growing and getting stronger. But I supplement with the right things so that I rarely ever have to worry about aches and pains. You are constantly breaking down your body when in the gym, you have to replenish what you lost.

Everyone has their own thing, just find your nitch and see what works for you. I can go on and on, but go to your local supplement place if you are curious. But don't just buy anything and everything. Do a search on the net and get more curious about things, it makes working out and losing weight more enjoyable overall when your mind is into it more as well.

Sorry for the novel
 awaitingyu

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Posted: 2/10/2006 3:16:50 PM
For my previous post, it's Amino Fuel 1000 by Twin Lab. Very good supplement.

And keep in mind that when you say that To lose body fat or weight, you have to take in less calories than your body burns so that you create a deficit, why that is true, but what people mistake that with is not eating much at all, and then going to the gym, and then they are wondering why they are dragging and have no energy and they aren't toning like they want to. when your body doesn't have what it needs to build it will look for protein that you do have and use it for energy instead of for building. That is what you don't want. Like I said the min. is 2000 calories a day, although i think that is LOW personally, but if you workout or run or something physical, YOU MUST UP YOUR CALORIC INTAKE...just because you go over by a few hundred doesn't mean that you just slapped on a pound or two of weight. You can't think so paranoid like that. You are just messing with your mind.

Remember your digestive system in your body is like a furnace, and the more you feed it the more it works, and burns....that is why you want to eat MORE, not LESS ! my body is in a constant state of burning fuel, and that is what the ones who are trying to lose weight or hoping to up their metabolism a bit must do. If your body is constantly digesting food throughout the day you are burning calories right there that you didn't even realize you were doing.
 Angel_in_jeans

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Posted: 2/10/2006 4:10:32 PM
I agree with much of what awaitingyu says. I have more success when I concentrate on eating healthy foods and maintaining a high (for me) level of activity. I finally figured out that if I get cardio equivalent to running 15 miles/week, weight maintenance pretty much takes care of itself. And strenght training is great!

I am down another pound this week. I have now lost the equivalent of roughly 18 cans of vegetable shortening. And, thanks, to the training, my core feels strong. I am really starting to feel the difference and I love it. Just a few more pounds to go . . .
 ladypagey

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Posted: 2/11/2006 7:31:10 AM
Am still walking, eating so so and drinking water. need advice on how to be motivated 24-7. scary news... caused consumption of sweet foods...got to get back to sensible foods 100% of the time...
 awaitingyu

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Posted: 2/11/2006 7:33:22 AM
^^^ devise a small plan for your eating, otherwise you will just do what comes easy and lazy to you being that is what you have been accustomed to for so long.
 Angel_in_jeans

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Posted: 2/11/2006 7:42:43 AM
Lady, I am hoping your scary news turns out OK.

What has helped me get and stay motivated is a more realistic body image. I am learning to be more objective. I think that 1 reason that I got really heavy is that I have always seen a fat person in the mirror, even when I was at the bottom of my weight range. So, I really did not see the added pounds when they piled on, because I already felt like they were there. It's hard to explain it in a way that makes sense because, well, it doesn't make any sense *lol* But I am concentrating really hard on looking in the mirror and seeing my body for what it is, instead of what I wish it were or fear it might turn into. I also concentrate on what I can do and how I can feel more than what I look like. It's hard to be motivated unless you can build the self esteem to believe that you deserve good health and a toned body.

Another thing that helps me is to let weight loss be a by-product of a healthy lifestyle. It's hard for me to get motivated by losing weight, because for me it is a "negative" goal, I don't want to be overweight. It's easier for me to say: I want to be toned, I want to "run" a 5k with no walk breaks, etc, because this is a positive goal -going towards something instead of avoiding something.

I also allow myself 1 day a week to eat whatever I want. That way, it's easier for me to pass up "treats" on the other days. I just tell myself that I can always eat it the next "cheat" day if I still want it. So I don't feel so deprived. It was really scary for me to do this at first, and some of my cheat days are still pretty awful from a nutritional viewpoint. But as time goes on, they get less extreme because I am becoming more comfortable with the idea that I don't have to eat EVERYTHING today because, after all, there is another cheat day next week. I feel less deprived this way and that makes it easier to keep going.

It also helps to find a way to work in a few healthy treats during the rest of the week. I let myself have some FF or SF cocoa as a snack once in awhile. That way, I get some calcium and a chocolate fix.

I hope that helps! Remember, you are a big help in motivating other people. Lavish some of that loving attention on yourself and you will do just fine.

*EDIT* Awaitingyu is right on the planning. Some people plan every meal for the week. I don't do that, but I definitely plan on having healthy food readily available. And I plan to make it be lazy, convenient food too. Bagged lettuce, baby carrots, frozen veggies at home. Instant diet cocoa and packets of instant oatmeal at work. Protein bars at both places. That covers a lot of my impulse eating and really helps me stay on track. If I have to cut up salad veggies, more often than not I don't bother. So I spend a little more for the convenience foods-but I'm worth it!

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Posted: 2/11/2006 7:46:03 AM
^^^ could a menu a week be a way to insure following a way of eating sensibly? Got to buy and motivate weight loss... health reasons....
 Angel_in_jeans

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Posted: 2/11/2006 7:50:37 AM
Lady, I edited while you were posting re: Planning eating. I think a menu for the week is a great way to go, but I don't usually seem to get it done.
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Posted: 2/11/2006 8:33:51 AM
^^^ What she said is usually what happens with those of you who are used to a certain way of living or eating for so long....."baby steps". Sounds corny but it is very true. For years and years you have been used to doing things to what you considered was the "norm", even though it may not have been the healthy way. You have decided to change that, no matter at what point in your life you are at, the fact that you have decided to make a change says volumes. that is the start, and just as hard it was to make that decision it will be even harder to maintain that as you go, that is your challenge. Like I said no one ever says it's easy, but a little will power, a little motivation, a little dedication, some friends to lean on and you can do it at any point of your life, whether it is at 20, 40, or 60 years old.

And Like I said earlier, start out small, and work your way into it. Too many people wanna take a big chunk out, or dive into something head first without being realistic along the way. If you go slowly, little by little, it will become a normal thing for you every day as you go. Set small "goals" , and make sure they are realistic, not over powering. even if it's less than realistic in your eyes, you can always adjust or up your realistic goals along the way, nothing has to be iron clad set in stone.

A meal plan is a good way to start, but for alot of people depending on their lifestyle, work or whatever, it is hard to maintain, so do what you can. I mentioned in one of my other posts about eating and eating habits, that as much important it is as to "what you eat", it is even more important as to "when you eat". By spreading your meals out through the day every 3 hours, you are giving your system a constant "burning affect" as to burning the foods you consume, and your body uses energy to do that, and that is what gives your metabolism a kick start.

You have to know what to eat and where to get it before going to the store, but I would suggest going through your refrigerator and go through everything you have. Get rid of high fat items, sauces and dressing that are high fat. Too many people make a healthy salad, and then pour high fat dressings on them. You have to re-stock your refrigerator with healthy foods, and then go to the grocery store and spend some time there and re-stock.

that's a good start. Remember it's a process, not a quick fix, and it takes time to develop.
 ladypagey

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Posted: 2/11/2006 9:45:18 AM
^^^ so right... style of eating takes years to fall into a rut and getting out of a rut takes baby steps to undo the self pity kick it is easy to get on when health news or any other depressing news hits. It is too easy to fall face forward back into the bad eating. Good advice to go to the refrigerator and take stock of all foods in there and what can be thrown away and what can be kept. Do appreciate great friends in healthy living and weight loss. Thanks.
 awaitingyu

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Posted: 2/11/2006 10:08:27 AM
exactly, that's what the forums are for to help if anyone can in here....

just remember, don't look behind you, continue to look ahead and what "can be" accomplished, and forget about what couldn't be accomplished already in the past.

It's like with anything, drugs, alcohol, a bad relationship, the past is "past" you, put it behind you. You can't change it, but what you "CAN" change NOW is what you do from this point forward.

You have all the control in the world, and just as much as you can be your worst enemy, you can also be your best assest! that's becoming a positive thinker, which almost everytime (barring unforseen circumstances) leads to positive results !
 Angel_in_jeans

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Posted: 2/11/2006 11:05:58 AM
Another tip on baby steps that I picked up from my trainer. You can make bigger changes "part way." For example, I am working on my night-time eating habits. But instead of saying "no eating after such and such a time. period, we agreed on a goal of no eating after 8:30 on x-number of nights per week and I will build from there.

I have lost about 55 pounds taking one baby step at a time. I have had good success w/maintenance too, because the changes have not been hard to live with.

I really love baby steps because it is easier to succeed with a small step than it is to change your entire lifestyle. Success builds on itself. When you succeed w/one step, you feel like a winner and are better able to tackle the next step. If you are trying to change everything at once, you are setting yourself up to fail. Then, you feel like a failure, and it is harder to try again.
 AnthonyJ

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Posted: 2/11/2006 11:17:01 AM
Awaitingyu,

You are damn lucky is you can get away with eating 5 to 6,000 calories a day and not gain weight....That is what I call a genetically gifted metabolism right there! I envy you and all people like you.......I'm lucky if I can get away with eating 3,000 calories on a HIGH ACTIVITY day....

I used to think that a persons lifestyle and eating habits were the most important in terms of their body composition. And, for alot of people, I guess that is true...However, I have witnessed and talked with enough people -male and female - to know that for alot of them, their genetic blueprint is the number one determinate in terms of what they can or cannot achieve....We are all born with a certain body type, and while we can alter our shape and modify it, we can never change it. We all have a basic shape and we are all born with a set distribution of body fat. Certain areas on certain people are going to be fatter and thicker no matter what they do - excluding liposuction - and it's this distribution of fat that is so troubling....That and the type of fat that a person has.....Some people have a higher percentage of subcutaneous fat, while others have more visceral fat. From a health point of view, visceral fat is more dangerous; from an aesthetic point of view, subcutaneous fat is more troubling -it's jiggly and loose. I know alot of so-called "skinny" people who have more jiggly fat on their bodies than do alot of significantly overweight people with "beer bellies" which are made up mostly of visceral fat.....bodyfat distribution and bodyfat type are two hurdles that are so difficult to deal with for many people.....
 awaitingyu

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Posted: 2/11/2006 11:24:26 AM
Exactly...read under a previous topic about the different body types undder msg 15:

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts3196699.aspx

It helps to understand this for everyone so that you know your overall limits. Not everyone can look like Elle Mchpherson and/ or Brad Pitt...but you can still take advantage of what God did give you to it's fullest extent. That is the key, but once you understand where you stand currently, than you can take the steps necessary to alter it to the best of your abilty or appearance and/or lifestyle and health reasons. Your muscles don't relyy on one single nutrient like carbs or protein at any given time, but consuming too much carbs can result in an increase in body fat, and in the same manner too m uch protein can result in wasted consumption being your body only breaks down so much prootein in a given moment. You want to remain in an "anabolic" state as much as possible. When you are not seeing results or it's going backwards, then I am assuming that you are in a "catabolic" state which is what you don't want.

But alot of things regarding eating well and exercise involve "timing". What you eat and at what times. Before you workout, you should consume a carb/protein drink usually which is preferred, simple carbs that can be digested quickly, and can give you the energy you need, and also just after working out. Things like this over time when done right can change your metabolism because you are reconstructing it so-to-speak, in a way that is has not been accustomed to to be efficient in burning fuel and fat.

Insulin, a hormone in our bodies, if used correctly, can be your best friend (and I don't mean use in that it is added), but If insulin in your body is stimulated when you are not exercising, it can cause a conversion of carbohydrate into "FAT", which is the last thing you want. Now, in the moments before and within about 30 min. - 45 min. after a workout, your muscles are extremely sensitive to insulin which at that stage constructs the rebuilding stages of what you broke down in the gym either by cardio or weights, and in turn work with the protein in you to begin the rebuilding cycle, so at those points insulin is your best friend. That is when the best quality and the right amounts of protein/carb mix should be taken.

See there are alot of factors that you don't realize are going on in your bodies that have a major affect as to your workouts or just losing weight in general. So really, moreso "when" you take your protein and carbs are as or more important as to how much.

But once you understand your body "type" and what it is capable of then you can start your foundation off that. It's not extremely complicated, but just knowing some specific things and pointers can go a long way. Just going through the motions don't produce results, like anything in life, timing and how much or how less of something and at what times makes sometimes more of a difference.
 ladypagey

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Posted: 2/11/2006 4:57:47 PM
Thanks, awaiting and angel... baby steps in weight loss is an excellent way to lose and continue to lose. also don't look back at the past and look with dismay at the failure as it will just cause a person to stumble and fall into a bad rut.Look forward and count on eating leafy veggies, plenty of water and walking or whatever works for the weight loss at hand...little steps. Don't try to jump the grand canyon in a single step...
 Angel_in_jeans

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Posted: 2/12/2006 10:34:49 AM
Yeah, you can get really banged up that way
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