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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/1/2008 1:34:58 PM | No she can hang out with her Jesus freak virgin girlfriends all day complaing that mno guy wants to be with them and dumps them after a month If not sooner. I need my medecine! We ahve to get the poison out! I am 27 years old and enjyo sex and I am not stopping for some crazed religious or old fashioned reason. We are int eh 21st century.  | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/1/2008 2:20:45 PM | In my opinion "marriage," is more a state of mind. The right woman for me is someone that does not need external trappings, validation, or justification for internal resolve and commitment, and is able to understand and identify the difference. To me a wedding or marriage, is something that occurs to show the people in your life what has already transpired. There are also tax and citizenship benefits, but I don't think the OP meant to include those for discussion. For me it would be dependent upon the reasons why the woman does not wish to have sex before marriage. If the reasons are physical, such as having an STD, hereditary, or medical conditions making it extremely painful, then I would gladly wait until I knew she was the right one. If the reasons were emotional, or mental, as though the woman is placing value on sex and marriage was the only payment high enough to earn it ; i.e. "You're putting the **** on a pedestal," I would not call her again. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/1/2008 2:23:46 PM | So I'm interested in how many men would wait till marriage if they met the right woman? Even if you were both NOT virgins, do you think you could wait if that was her choice?"
Those types of women are almost non existant in western culture, and unless they're a different ethnicity, there's probably something wrong with them, so Run Fast. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/1/2008 3:05:02 PM |
In my opinion "marriage," is more a state of mind. The right woman for me is someone that does not need external trappings, validation, or justification for internal resolve and commitment, and is able to understand and identify the difference.
While I might be baffled by another person's behavior, seldom have I been baffled by another's persons use of English. But at this moment, wow! I am seriously baffled by the above response to the OP.
gnuru75, when you say, "the right woman" for you is "able to understand and identify the difference," what difference are you talking about exactly? In order to identify differences, you need to contrast two positions, or two objects, or whatever. But you haven't actually given a comparable from which a person would be able to differentiate one from the other or identify and understand differences!!
Also, if I am grasping what you actually mean in terms of "external trappings, validation, or justification for internal resolve and commitment," I think you are saying the woman shouldn't need to have the formaility of a wedding to justify her commitment to the relationship. About this I hasten to disagree, since I know women who laid it on the line to their men "Marry me, or I'm walking." They are investing in that relationship and want to know the man is as serious about it as they are. And lots of women don't want to have children out of wedlock. Marriage isn't merely a state of mind, it's an institution and the corner stone of stability in society.
I realize you are just speaking about the right woman for you. But praise be indeed if she can even manage to understand what the heck you are talking about. There are far clearer ways of expressing your viewpoint. And, bottom line, differentiation requires a comparable...as in identifying and understanding the difference in comparison to what??
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/1/2008 8:40:06 PM | I think this will be my third time answering.
Now I know it depends on whether I just had sex with the twins. Seeing that I did I am somewhat subdued and probably would put more stock other things so yes I could wait. But if I go back to youporn and catch another movie with the twins then nope.
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/1/2008 11:05:43 PM | I apologize for my lack of clarity i like coffee. The contrasting positions for differentiation are someone's need for others to define their relationship and the ability to choose, and understand, their own definition of a relationship. The difference is someone who needs people to tell them who and what they are vs. someone that is able to choose and define for themself. Basically, I would be "married" to someone by my choices, actions, and resolve of commitment rather than by someone handing me a certificate and pronouncing "you're now man and wife." I am saying that a wedding is a formality to the commitment. Basically, to me, the "marriage" takes place long before the ceremony, internally, therefore the physical act of marriage, the wedding ceremony, and legal process are arbitrary. This is my opinion. Therefore the original question "If you met the right woman would you wait for sex until marriage," is answered by defining what I feel are the important concepts, as they relate to me. I understand when you type about women "who laid it on the line to their men," and "They are investing in that relationship..." To me this is a dangerous way to phrase behavior as it seems to denote or connotate that the man is an inferior, or at least submissive, participant maybe even arbitrary to the relationship. Personally, I would not wish to be viewed as a halfsie to an social investment. But I do not see marriage as a goal, an ending, a payoff, or capital gain. I agree that most women do not want to have children out of wedlock, but I do believe at this point most women realize that having children out of wedlock, although not desired, is not followed by a complete social ostracizing. I was not aware the institution of marriage was a cornerstone of stability to society. I was under the impression that basic freedoms (religion, speech, due process, congregation) were the cornerstones, not to mention a common language, and last but not least personal responsibility and accountability. I can understand how the institution of marriage is a cornerstone to the stability of family and possibly socio-economic status development but if what you believe is true then based on divorce rates and the rise in single parent families,locally and internationally, the industrialized world is screwed. In my opinion the institution of marriage is not a determinant of social stability, but more of a symptom as the institute has changed as societies have changed. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/1/2008 11:08:02 PM | hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahah I get it....... hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahah hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahah hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahah hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahah hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahah hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahah hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahah That - THAT was funny hahahahahahahahahahaahahahaahahahah
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/2/2008 6:01:37 AM | gnuru75 Your reply was a lot better...and clearer...than your original post. Plus you explained what you wanted it compared to. I majored in religious studies, so can't really disagree that religion has been one of the corner stones of society for as far back as history goes...although perhaps not stability in society. You've put the disclaimer "in your opinion," so what you're saying really isn't an argument but a viewpoint, which you're entitled to. This is just my opinion, but from what I see happening while those of us who have a failed marriage to our credit might not need external trappings...and might possibily even prefer not to merge assets...young people who've never married still want to get married and having children in wedlock is still a popular and valid choice. With the friends who laid it on the line (marry me or else I'm leaving) they in essence said BE AN EQUAL PARTNER, because they wanted to be sure the man's commitment was equal to theirs. None of those guys left. Men being what they are a lot start going into something similar to Anaphylactic Shock at the mere mention of the "C" word or the "M" word (commitment / marriage). So you can't blame women for putting thier foot down! Well, that's my opinion. :)
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/2/2008 7:23:23 AM | i'm not into mariage... but i could wait for six months ...if i thought that it was worth it - no problem at all.. i would definately wait for two weeks for us both to get up to date HIV tests if neither one of us had had sex for six months..
real issue might be that you are on different planets... maybe you want sex ..she wants marriage... they might be very different things.. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/14/2008 4:38:53 PM | | it matters how long; if its a 2 year engagement; well, no; If its 6 months or so or even a year, no problem. To be honest though its for the woman and she is just fooling herself. She's trying somehow to feel more pure but she's either a virgin or not a virgin. There isnt' a kind of a virgin. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/17/2008 2:07:36 AM | I will be damned. GOOD question.
Even I would say: Yes.
But only in Las Vegas, on the 4th of July.........
It isn't a show of respect, it is a show of patience, courteousness and commitment. DAMNED straight if you are the man-half of that equation.........
After all, it isn't always about someone ELSE. I have to make that decision as well, and stick to it you know..............it is more along the lines of respecting myself, and what values I DO place in........myself. What she thinks is irrelevant, as my rules start and stop with me, when it becomes about what other people think, you are called a "Politician" then............
Being a man means stepping up to the plate, and standing there no matter what it takes. It also means going the distance because it is what YOU believe in........ | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 4/17/2008 7:27:50 AM | Okay....so lets say that the time frame from dating to engagement is one year and then another year to the date of bliss. Could I wait...probably Would I wait...not likely And why?....That should be obvious. If that moment of bliss is a disaster,then what.
As far as doing "other things"...once you go down that road, it's like trying to stop a train wreck. Uh....you might want to keep the urge to tell the guy on your first date that your waiting for marriage to yourself. The date might just go a tad smoother. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage? Posted: 7/6/2008 12:50:40 PM | If your not a Christian then please don't try to knock or discourage the ones who are . Here's a great article by CBN -700 Club on this subject .... for US Christians that is ..... :) Human sexuality can be one of the most beautiful aspects of God's plan for His children here on earth. But since Adam and Eve's fall from grace, human sexual practices have drifted from God's purposes.
In fact, if we are not careful to look to our Heavenly Father and follow His teaching in this area, we live a life which makes us slaves to sin and fails to bring glory to our Lord.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE
If you are struggling with sexual sin, you are not alone. Even King David -- a man after God's own heart -- wrestled with sexual sin. When he saw a beautiful woman named Bathsheba, he was overcome by his own lust. He then went to great lengths to hide his sin. But thanks to a faithful friend and a forgiving God, David found his way home (2 Samuel 11:12). And so can you.
FREEDOM IN THE TRUTH
Too often, we step onto the wrong path in our sexuality because we fail to act upon God's truth. Jesus, in one passage of the Bible, examines the freedom found in truth, and the enslaving power of lies. In that passage, the Lord puts it plainly: the truth sets us free. We either respond to the truth or to Satan's lies (John 8:31-47).
Recognizing the truth about sex can be an important first step to achieving victory over sexual sins. First, God wants His children to enjoy the beauty of appropriate sexual relationships. The King of the universe has much to say in His Word about the joys to be found in a marriage where both husband and wife know and love Christ (Gen. 2:24-25; Prov. 5:19; Song of Solomon).
However, the devil, the accuser of our souls, constantly tries to wreck God's plans. He lies to us, tempting us to believe that we can grab hold of sexual pleasures apart from a marriage commitment. He uses day-to-day pressures and our own sinful nature to accomplish his purposes.
And what begins as merely a "wandering thought" can quickly tempt us to act sinfully (James 1:14-15). These sins can involve pornography, fornication, adultery, prostitution, homosexuality, and other ungodly sexual practices.
No matter what sins overcome us, we must recognize that lust is at the root of our sin (1 John 2:16; Gal. 5:16-20). Lust blinds us and leads us deeper into sexual sin (1 Tim. 4:1-2; Rom. 1:21-27; Eph. 4:17-19). Each sin results in the same end (Rom. 6:23) and can carry deadly consequences of disease, and worse:spiritual death.
BREAKING THE CHAINS
To break the bonds of sexual sins, you must repent. That means a total change of direction, away from the sins and temptations, and toward the forgiving grace of a loving God. If you have allowed lust to control your life, yield to God as the Holy Spirit convicts you of your sin. God will forgive and cleanse you physically, emotionally and spiritually, if you humbly come to Him (1 John 1:8,9; Psalm 103:12; Romans 6:23).
If you do not know that Jesus is your Savior, turn your life over to Him. Simply pray this prayer: "Jesus, I know You died for me. Thank You for saving me from my sins. I ask You to be Lord and Savior of my life."
Once you know Jesus as Savior take comfort in knowing that He identifies with your struggles and He desires to set you free (Heb. 4:14-16). He will enable you to gain the victory.
FIGHTING THE DAILY BATTLE
To overcome the temptations you will continually face, follow God's simple plan:
Stand firm against temptation (James 4:7; 1 Pet. 5:6-9; 2 Tim. 2:22). Confess your sins to a brother or sister in Christ and pray to be healed (James 5:16). Hide God's Word in your heart (Psalm 119:11), trusting in its strength (Heb. 4:12). Minister to God with sacrifices of praise (Heb. 13:15) until you are filled with the peace and joy of the Lord (Isaiah 26:3). Most of all, the change must come from within (see Prov. 23:7). Fill your mind with God's thoughts, not worldly thoughts. And remember, the Bible says that God can be trusted not to let you be tempted too much, and He will show you how to escape from your temptations (1 Cor. 10:13). Finally, become part of an active Spirit-filled church. Study the Bible daily. Pray constantly and befriend other like-minded Christians. If you continue to give into temptations, you may need the help of a minister, counselor and/or other prayer partners.
AS YOU PRAY
Are you currently struggling with sexual sins? Despite the power these sins can have over us, you can have victory through the cleansing blood of Jesus and His grace to live each day.
Pray right now: "Father, forgive me and heal me from the sexual sins which have kept me separated from Your love. Help me to recognize and accept the power Jesus offers to restore me to wholeness. Help me to flee from all influences which cause me to sin, and allow me the meekness and humbleness I need to confide in a brother or sister in Christ and be healed. Encourage me and strengthen me with your holy and powerful Word. Amen."
GOD'S WORD ON SEXUAL SIN
"Don't you know that your bodies are part of the body of Christ? Is it right for me to join part of the body of Christ to an immoral woman? No, it isn't! ... Surely you know that your body is a temple where the Holy Spirit lives. The Spirit is in you and is a gift from God. You are no longer your own. God paid a great price for you. So use your body to honor God." (1 Cor. 6:15, 19-20).
SCRIPTURES FOR STUDY
1 Thessalonians 4:3-8 -- God's will concerning sex
Proverbs 2:12-22; 6:20-35 -- The need for God's Word and wisdom
Psalm 51:7 -- Assurance of cleansing
James 1:12 -- Rewards for resisting sexual sin
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