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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/8/2006 1:45:16 PM | I couldn't write a better rebuttal to Scraps and ooli. Molonel, very articulate, well said.
I'm going to reiterate the point I made earlier. I'm not saying I want to see all men and women walk out into the street, get naked, and have an orgy. What I'm saying is there is a natural point in a relationship where a man and a woman OUGHT TO explore their sexual feelings for each other. If you wait ARBITRARILY to save sex for marriage, I'd classify you as:
(1) not a very sexual person
(2) constrained by false morality
If you disagree, it's ok, don't label me negatively. Quite frankly I know I'm correct, and molonel spelled out the hyprocrisy in disagreeing with this position.
Marathonman made a great point as well, mature people discuss this openly with each other. Look, I value sexuality in my "relationships" with women. If my partner has different values in this area, that MIGHT be ok, but generally I'd find that to be a situation where she would be closed-minded, and there probably are other relationship aspects that would also fall to the wayside, and eventually I wouldn't want to be in that relationship. Now if EVERY OTHER ASPECT of the relationship was dead-on solid and what I wanted, that's ok but I'd want to get married ASAP.
It truly is foolish to wait until marriage to have intercourse. That kind of hurries people into bad marriages IMO, this only drives up the divorce rate. Let things progress naturally in the sexual area, get married when you can make a true lifetime commitment. I have nothing but respect for the institute of marriage, but a rational person who values his/her sex life is will probably find reasons other than sex to end a relationship with a partner who does not value the intimacy of sex. It can't get any simpler than that. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/8/2006 2:31:22 PM | i will never do that evereverevereverever again!!!! it was stupid!!!
my best friend/girlfriend and i did everything with each other, she was my everything!
she was kind of religious and didn't want to have sex till she got married so because i worshiped the ground she walked on i respected that. in a whole year n a half we never had sex yet got verry intimate, naked, rubbing, playing, everything short of intercourse. she even tried to put it in everytime but i would stop her because i knew her wishes and didn't want to be something she would regret.
wellto make a longer story short,, she ended up doing one of our friends and that was the end of that.......so to hell with all that ever again!!!!!!!!
neverneverneverneverneveragain!!!!! | |
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yna6
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Joined: 5/2/2004
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/8/2006 7:03:46 PM |
It truly is foolish to wait until marriage to have intercourse.
That is your own limited opinion. There are many, many, many people who say it is foolish to HAVE sex before marriage.
This is my deep, moral and religios belief. I will be devoted to that until I get married, if I get married. Why? It's because I KNOW it is possible, I've done it before.
My ex-boyfriend, who is a virgin, and I kept sex OUT of the relationship. It was very, very satisfying without it.
That's my final word on this subject.
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/8/2006 7:10:55 PM | | Yes, True Love wait's if you can't wait don't get involved I would respect her feeling because I'm waiting too. There is no reason to go out and try everyone out there and see if the shoe fit's when you get married it's for Life and you have that person to enjoy for the rest of your Life why go out and catch Aids or something else the conseqences of Sin is Death.. | |
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Joined: 12/17/2005
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/9/2006 5:31:21 AM | I'm not saying anything about you, personally, but it does nothing for your view, to me, when people use terms like "chronic fornicator" to describe those who disagree with them.
You are addressing this to the wrong person. It has nothing to do with me.
You know, this is nice propaganda, but it ignores the fact that many of the folks saying, "Hell no!" (including myself) came from environments that extolled the virtues of no sex before marriage.
Egad man! My opinion is mine because it is exclusive to me. I don't have to defend your position. That's your job. lol
Btw, most of the women I know aren't afraid to address this issue, and certainly have no fear of the word "slut". I certainly don't.
As to my position, just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense.
It also ignores - despite your protestations - the presence of many women saying exactly the same thing in this thread.
Um....yup. Like you have just said, I have acknowledged that not all women will agree with my position. Oh wait...you've also said that I am ignoring the fact that all women don't agree with me. What the??? lol
You're asking another question altogether.
Eureka! Yes I am. That was intentional.
You're painting a caricature.
No, I'm asking a question and hoping for genuine answers.
That's like saying you can have conversation without talking.
No, that's saying you can determine sexual compatibility before you have sex. All it takes is honest, fearless and open communication. If you can't trust your intended to tell the truth, then that's another story. That in itself, doesn't make them a good candidate for a long term relationship.
Look, we are all individuals, who approach situations based on our own life experiences. Our personal truths reflect our individual experiences.
I have experienced the sexual compatibility issue on both sides of the coin. For most of my life as a sexual creature, I have known who I was sexually harmonious with long before I actually had sex with them, and was bang on about who I knew would be a dud in the sack.
Of course, age has given me wisdom and the confidence to ask the tough questions. When I was in my teens and early twenties, I was too intimidated to talk about my needs. Still, that was a different time. Today, we don't have the same social restraints and sex is not a taboo topic anymore.
Sounds silly, doesn't it?
Actually, it's your attitude here that seems inane, more then any points that are being made by either side. I don't agree with hostility as a bargaining chip.
A merely meaningless observation.
The truth of the matter is that more men have supported the test drive theory then women on this thread. You cannot dismiss this basic fact with finger-pointing and shaming diatribes.
I am not promoting celibacy before marriage. lol That is irrelevant to my position. My reasoning is not religiously based. I am not a Christian, Jew or Muslim, although I do respect persons of those faiths. My main concern here is that sex shouldn't be the primary determining factor by a landslide, in a whether a relationship has marriage potential or not. Marriage is a blending of ideas and values, where love, respect and sex play equally important roles. One does not supersede the other. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. lol
You're framing the question wrong, in order to favor your point of view.
No, you don't get my point of view. lol And that's OK. I said exactly what I intended to say. I was hoping for answers, not critiques.
I don't know who taught you about the "days of yore" but this is horse ****.
Actually, I have studied these issues at university. What are your qualifications?
Baloney.
The mystery meat for the economically minded. I myself, do not eat baloney, but don't judge those that do. lol
Look, what you and I are espousing here is opinion only. No one has a corner on the truth regardless of how passionately they feel about their position.
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/9/2006 7:27:43 AM |
It was so satisfying that you broke up with him, and he still didn't get laid. Wow.
I broke up with him because of religious differences (as if it's ANY of your business), thank you very much. Sex would have created inappropriate ties, making it impossbile to leave when I needed to.
It was still the most satisfying relationship I've ever had.
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/9/2006 10:16:56 AM | Wasn't my business until *you* brought it up publicly. Then it became public forum fodder. And you're welcome very much. Maybe you should have more fully dicussed your religious beliefs with him before getting involved, after you cleared up the whole nasty "sex" thing, of course.
Hey, out of curiosity, are the "scraps" your name refers to what you feed that twenty pound bug up your... | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/9/2006 2:21:15 PM | Not necessarily, but I believe that a relationship should take a little time to develop before the sexual aspect begins so that you love the whole person not just the sexual aspect. This makes for a better relationship in the long term. How long the wait should be is more of an individual issue. Some will wait 6 mos, others till engagement (me), others until marriage. Just give time for the relationship to develop, but that is up to each couple to decide how long to wait, and it is best if the couple does things on a mutually agreeable basis.
Cheers!!
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/9/2006 2:45:13 PM | No. Sex is an important part of any relationship. Sexual attraction is a natural part of getting to know someone. If there's no sparks, there's no attraction and no reason to stick around unless your persuing a friendship.
Besides, why would you risk not knowing if you were sexually compatible with this person?
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/9/2006 2:58:09 PM | what if you wait to the honeymoon , then you find out she can't throw that ass the way you like it, you know ,like she can't get her swerve on, or she upstrokes when she's supposed to downstroke?
Some people just can't learn to dance. Now, you're stuck with this uncordinated spaze until death do you part.
See; you better check to make sure momma can work dat thang before you get hitched! | |
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Ooli
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Joined: 12/17/2005
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/9/2006 6:58:25 PM |
Maybe you should have more fully dicussed your religious beliefs with him before getting involved, after you cleared up the whole nasty "sex" thing, of course.
Excuse me? What has THAT got to do with anything? Just like any couple, we tried to work out our religious differences. We made compromises and agreements. In the end, it wasn't enough.
At least I kept my sense of self-respect and dignity throughout it all. I didn't prostitute myself for the sake of gratuitous physical pleasure, like some seem to want to do.
Futhermore, who said ANYTHING about sex being "nasty"? I RESPECT sex as a holy and sacred gift from God. I VALUE chastity and sexual purity.
Which is more than can be said about you.
Hey, out of curiosity, are the "scraps" your name refers to what you feed that twenty pound bug up your...
Argumentum ad hominem...
Do you know what that means? Do you even know what language that is? I mean, without having to search for it on Google?
See ya.
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/9/2006 7:13:06 PM | Ok so get this....i have this boyfriend who him and i decided to wait for atleast three months before having sex to make sure we are in this for the right reasons...going great..many times we wantted to but stopped. So two months later, we get into a big fight break up for two days in which this time he has sex with another women then comes crawling back to me saying how sorry and how much he loves me but leaves out the fact he had sex, new years eve comes around when the women sees him and i together and tells me what he had done. no he didn't cheat on me but we hadn't even had sex adn it is not like it didn't try and yes he wantted it also.
so to answer your question...he may say he will wait for you but when he is really banging the girl down the street behind your back! | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/10/2006 4:03:49 PM |
Some people just can't learn to dance. Now, you're stuck with this uncordinated spaze until death do you part.
And some people just can't learn to spell.
SPAZE? UNCORDINATED? What is that?
I guess it would be even though, she'd be an UNCOORDINATED SPAZ and you'd need an intepreter to read her anything you write!
I'd rather marry someone who is "bad in bed" than someone who couldn't spell to save their lives!
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/10/2006 4:30:36 PM | Ok I havent read everything that people wrote on here, but I have to say this. There is no way on God's green earth that I would marry a man without knowing that we're compatible in bed. I know what satisfies me and I sure as hell want the man I marry to know what they are and be reasonably skilled ... Similarly, I'd want to be sure that I can satisfy him to his heart's content!
Why wait till marriage, feel totally connected mentally, emotionally, spiritually and NOT physically? Long gone are the days of sex for procreation, so let's get real people. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/10/2006 4:59:10 PM |
That's my final word on this subject. - Feast_On_Scraps
Evidently self-control isn't strong on your list of virtues, despite all claims to the contrary.
Argumentum ad hominem ... Do you know what that means? Do you even know what language that is? I mean, without having to search for it on Google? - Feast_On_Scraps
It's Latin for "argument to the man," and no, I didn't have to look it up, although evidently you're due for a refresher course in basic informal logic since you've been calling people "chronic fornicators" and "serial fornicators," whilst complaining about someone else telling you that you had a bug up your bum. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/10/2006 6:05:06 PM |
You: Evidently self-control isn't strong on your list of virtues, despite all claims to the contrary.
Me : "I broke up with him because of religious differences (as if it's ANY of your business), thank you very much. Sex would have created inappropriate ties, making it impossbile to leave when I needed to."
Hmmm. Looks like a new topic to me. He brought up the fact I had broken up with my boyfriend. I was clarifying why.
It's Latin for "argument to the man," and no, I didn't have to look it up
That's nice. Too bad I wasn't addressing you. OOPS!
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