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It takes courage, discipline, INDEPENDENCE and a level of awaremenss and introspection very very FEW people seem to demonstrate...EVER. - Marathonman11x7
Not really. You're singing praises of a road you've never walked. Nobody in this thread has said that they wouldn't wait, ever. Nobody has claimed that you have to boff somebody on the first date, or the second, just to know if you can eventually get married, though this it the caricature drawn by the "Sure, I'd wait, but I never have" folks. A relationship, especially a marriage, takes courage, discipline and a high level of awareness and introspection. It is a permanent commitment, though at least 50 percent of these "permanent" commitments will fail. But no matter what, it is an extremely painful commitment to quit, and it often consumes years of our so-so-short lives. And if you value sex, and you value marriage, it is worthwhile to investigate whether or not this is an area of incompatibility.
This is part of my point,the claim that you NEED to have sex before marriage to know has no merit here. BTW,I don't believe its "good" for anybody to go "stark-raving mad in the dating scene...sign of a real emotional promblem that could easily and likely lead to more. - Marathonman11x7
Again, no. Thanks for playing, though. Women, as you may or may not have heard, hit their sexual peak in the 30s. Those who come out of sexually frustrated marriages - and I've known quite a few - often emerge into a period of great personal freedom just when their sex drive is going crazy. Most of them go crazy for a while, then dial it back. It's the typical kid-in-the-candystore scenario. It's not a sign of emotional problems - and Jesus, can you people just disagree with someone without diagnosing them with mental problems, please? - but rather a sign that someone really, really needed physical intimacy and attention and wasn't getting it from their permanent partner at the time when they needed it most.
"... My further point is that in NO other relationship in which we waited to have sex(obviously,I've never waited until marriage) has there EVER been a problem with sexual compatibilty. In fact I've found those who wait longer before having sex are more likely to be the best at it. fewer issues,less baggage. Again,to the OP's question....I KNOW I could... I BELIEVE I would. - Marathonman11x7
So you believe you could, but you never have? You realize that, in and of itself, is very telling, right? The original question was, guys, could you wait until marriage?
Your answer, despite all the fireworks, is no. You didn't wait. You never have. You probably never will.
Everything else is just song and dance. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/16/2006 1:06:45 PM | hey! if it isn't a choice it does not count. I would not sleep with either one of those two, that are NOT my kind of lady.
what do you mean theory? I am not talking abouit rules hear, I am talking about being of a higher consiousness where you are aware of people other than yourself. really I don't have a problem with sexuality in any shape or under any premise. it is a free choice. I however am just saying that you don't need to sleep with someone to know who or what they are about
that includes their sex drive and their sexual tastes. just because someone wants to marry before having sex does not mean they are not sexual people.
the facts of marriage ritual in other parts of the world have NOTHING to do with this particular subject as far as I know. am I wrong? | |
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Posted: 2/16/2006 2:57:08 PM |
Nobody in this thread has said that they wouldn't wait, ever.
Surely you jest This thread is full of those who've said that wouldn't.
sign that someone really, really needed physical intimacy and attention and wasn't getting it from their permanent partner at the time when they needed it most.
That is an extremely superficial and simplistic view. Of course ANYONE regardless of age or marital status who wants to "go crazy" does because they feel they "really need physical intimacy including promiscuous teens.
Your answer, despite all the fireworks, is no.
FALSE AGAIN!
The OP's question has been posted many times the question wasn't/isn't "HAVE you"..its "COULD you".. YOUR answer is no......mine has been clear:I KNOW I could... I BELIEVE I would. | |
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Posted: 2/16/2006 4:37:57 PM |
Surely you jest This thread is full of those who've said that wouldn't. - Marathonman11x7
No, the thread is full of people who said that they wouldn't wait until MARRIAGE. That's not the same thing as saying you wouldn't wait at all for anything, ever. You're confusing the two, and admitting that you've never waited until marriage, while confusing the two issues. Try reposting the thread and saying, "Guys, would you be willing to wait for sex until later in the relationship?" or "Guys, would you be willing to hold off on having sex until you knew the person better?"
You'll probably get a lot of guys shrugging, and saying, "Sure, for the right person, I'd be willing to wait."
But that's an entirely different question from saying, "Guys, would you be willing to enter into a permanent, legally binding, often religiously significant commitment to someone without ever having sex?"
That is an extremely superficial and simplistic view. Of course ANYONE regardless of age or marital status who wants to "go crazy" does because they feel they "really need physical intimacy including promiscuous teens. - Marathonman11x7
Says the man who freely admits he's never waited for marriage, anyway. My view of their circumstances is certainly more nuanced and less simplistic than saying the woman has mental issues.
The fact is, though, that what the original writer described is a short phase that people coming out of a sexually frustrating marriage often experience, and eventually grow out of. Never having been married, I can see why you wouldn't understand, but the fact remains, you don't understand. Often, these are women who pledged and carried out fidelity to a partner for many years. Once free of that commitment, they go through a Bacchanalian phase, and then chill out.
Even the ones who "go crazy" for more than a while are hardly exhibiting mental issues.
FALSE AGAIN! The OP's question has been posted many times the question wasn't/isn't "HAVE you"..its "COULD you".. YOUR answer is no......mine has been clear:I KNOW I could... I BELIEVE I would. - Marathonman11x7
No, it's not false. If you've never waited before - and you haven't - then you don't know if you could, or not.
You don't KNOW anything. You're simply speculating. It's theoretical. When you've done it, come back and tell us about it. Until then, you don't know. You're 41 years old, my friend. You've never waited to get married before. Not once. And you're busting on people for unapologetically living exactly the same way you've lived your life. It's hilarious. You've lived through the majority of your sexual life NOT waiting, but you have brave words about | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:43:44 AM | In an ideal relationship two people mesh on so many details. Sex is one of those details. marriage is a huge commitment to make, and to potentially find out that you are sexually imcompatible is ridiculous.
All you have to do is have sex and see if you work well together.
no biggie. plus... its fun... seriously...
but try to wing it on your first try and see how much of a turn on it is when you are totally inept at pleasing a partner... that makes for a good marriage... riiiiight... | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:53:01 AM | I could wait but, sex is addictive to some some ppl. I guess it depends on the individual
Some? ... ... ... Sorry. I had to laugh there for a few minutes. Sex seems to be addictive to almost EVERYONE. SEX IS A LUXURY, NOT A RIGHT. To say that you can't love someone if they aren't "sexually compatible" is the most dumbass piece of crap that I've ever heard. It's like going to a really nice hotel, but it doesn't have a pool, so it isn't good enough. Okay, that is a very stupid analogy, but it conveys the point. Love isn't about sex. If the sex is good, then great. If it isn't then too damn bad, huh? There is more to life than sex. The sex isn't good enough, so they aren't worthy enough to have your love? If I were the other person, I'd get rid of your ass if you'd even consider letting me go just because of bad sex. Damn. Society is screwed. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:18:32 PM | By the time I find the right women, I'll be too old for sex. Moot point.
This question can not be analyzed in a vacumn -
1. How specific your are about your "right" women
2. How long have you looked until you've found her
3. What are her/your reasons for waiting
4. How satisfied are you with the other extracirricular activities
All of these points would influence one's willingness....of course, if you got tired of waiting..you could just get her drunk  | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/18/2006 1:35:13 PM | I occasionally see mention of sexual addiction on this thread. I pulled this self diagnosis test off of the 'Sex Addicts Anonymous' website. It's interesting.
"Answer these twelve questions to assess whether you may have a problem with sexual addiction.
1. Do you keep secrets about your sexual or romantic activities from those important to you? Do you lead a double life?
2. Have your needs driven you to have sex in places or situations or with people you would not normally choose?
3. Do you find yourself looking for sexually arousing articles or scenes in newspapers, magazines, or other media?
4. Do you find that romantic or sexual fantasies interfere with your relationships or are preventing you from facing problems?
5. Do you frequently want to get away from a sex partner after having sex? Do you frequently feel remorse, shame, or guilt after a sexual encounter?
6. Do you feel shame about your body or your sexuality, such that you avoid touching your body or engaging in sexual relationships? Do you fear that you have no sexual feelings, that you are asexual?
7. Does each new relationship continue to have the same destructive patterns which prompted you to leave the last relationship?
8. Is it taking more variety and frequency of sexual and romantic activities than previously to bring the same levels of excitement and relief?
9. Have you ever been arrested or are you in danger of being arrested because of your practices of voyeurism, exhibitionism, prostitution, sex with minors, indecent phone calls, etc.?
10. Does your pursuit of sex or romantic relationships interfere with your spiritual beliefs or development?
11. Do your sexual activities include the risk, threat, or reality of disease, pregnancy, coercion, or violence?
12. Has your sexual or romantic behavior ever left you feeling hopeless, alienated from others, or suicidal?
If you answered yes to more than one of these questions, we would encourage you to seek out additional literature as a resource or to attend a Sex Addicts Anonymous meeting to further assess your needs." | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 3:36:13 PM | 1. Do you keep secrets about your sexual or romantic activities from those important to you? Do you lead a double life?
Only in the bathroom
2. Have your needs driven you to have sex in places or situations or with people you would not normally choose?
Only in the bathroom
3. Do you find yourself looking for sexually arousing articles or scenes in newspapers, magazines, or other media?
Only in the bathroom
4. Do you find that romantic or sexual fantasies interfere with your relationships or are preventing you from facing problems?
Only in the bathroom
5. Do you frequently want to get away from a sex partner after having sex? Do you frequently feel remorse, shame, or guilt after a sexual encounter?
Never, except after I've been in the bathroom
6. Do you feel shame about your body or your sexuality, such that you avoid touching your body or engaging in sexual relationships? Do you fear that you have no sexual feelings, that you are asexual?
Occasionally, after I use the bathroom
7. Does each new relationship continue to have the same destructive patterns which prompted you to leave the last relationship?
I ussually feel like I have to use the bathroom
8. Is it taking more variety and frequency of sexual and romantic activities than previously to bring the same levels of excitement and relief?
Not when I'm in the bathroom
9. Have you ever been arrested or are you in danger of being arrested because of your practices of voyeurism, exhibitionism, prostitution, sex with minors, indecent phone calls, etc.?
Only after using public bathrooms
10. Does your pursuit of sex or romantic relationships interfere with your spiritual beliefs or development?
Occasionally, after I use the bathroom at church
11. Do your sexual activities include the risk, threat, or reality of disease, pregnancy, coercion, or violence?
Once, after I used the bathroom at the hospital
12. Has your sexual or romantic behavior ever left you feeling hopeless, alienated from others, or suicidal?
Up until now, no | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 4:52:09 PM | My comment:It takes courage, discipline, INDEPENDENCE and a level of awaremenss and introspection very very FEW people seem to demonstrate...EVER
Nobody in this thread has said that they wouldn't wait, ever Followed by:
No, the thread is full of people who said that they wouldn't wait until MARRIAGE. A non argument for the sake of argument?
You're simply speculating. It's theoretical. When you've done it, come back and tell us about it I speculate that I CAN and WOULD just as YOU speculate that you WOULDN'T. You are 33 and divorced. The question hinges on finding the "right one" obviously you were NOT the right one for her or she for you or both. Therefore according to you, you do not know. YOU don't know ANYTHING. Your position seems to be that you have no desire to and you believe that you wouldn't. My position is clearly opposite.
You've lived through the majority of your sexual life NOT waiting
I have never waited until MARRIAGE....NOPE.....but the question is "COULD" its SPECUALTIVE in nature. THAT is understood by all. Even someone who is currently married would have to speculate their position to do it again. EVERY post yeah, or nay is speculative and intended that way.
Even the ones who "go crazy" for more than a while are hardly exhibiting mental[/quo issues. I said someone going "stark-raving mad on the dating scene" shows a real emotional promblem that could easily and likely lead to more.At LEAST try to get it right next time.
My view of their circumstances is certainly MUCH more nuanced and FAR less simplistic than saying the woman is simply getting the attention she missed by "stark-raving mad on the dating scene".
The OP's question is speculative by nature and therefore is asking for opinions. I gave mine,you gave yours. It seems that to some a prominent concern has been sexual compatiblity. My position on that has been the claim that you NEED to have sex before marriage to know sexual compatiblity has no merit. It then becomes a matter of principle. A principle the OP's question hinges on.... (how many men would wait till marriage if they met the right woman? Even if you were both NOT virgins, do you think you could wait if that was her choice?) COULD you? Is the ability there? YES.....the question then becomes a matter of will ....would you? I personally have abstained for periods of up to 3 yrs during my sexual life.
And you're busting on people for unapologetically living exactly the same way you've lived your life.  Oh try something else. Basically that quote illustrates a confused perspective or lie. I'd advise you to reread my post to gain better understanding that is clearly lacked by that comment. I've made no neggative comments about those who share a different position on the merit of having a different position. I've debated the merit of requiring sex before marriage to know sexual compatiblity. Now, if simply any position contrary to yours on this is "busting" so be it. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 5:07:58 PM | | No way! Women were put on my planet to serve me. And also I know that just being in the same room with me, makes women have to have me. Women can't wait to see me pull my shirt off, because I really am a man/god. My body is without flaw, so it is the women that can't wait to serve me in everyway. Billy | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 6:01:49 PM | STEELFORARMS...... YOU ARE A JACKASS!!!!!!
THE FUNNIEST THING ABOUT IT THOUGH....... IS THAT PEOPLE OUT THERE LIKE YOU... ACTUALLY DO GET A LARGE PORTION OF THE WOMEN..... LEAVING ALL THE REST OF THE DECENT GUYS OUT THERE.... UP SHITS CREEK.... THATS A DAMN SHAME>.....
ON SECOND THOUGHT THOUGH.... I DONT THINK I WANT THE KIND OF WOMEN THAT WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO GUYS LIKE YOU.....
UNLESS OF COURSE... U WERE KIDDING,... IN WHICH CASE.... LOL- GOOD ONE!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 7:55:14 PM | if you truly loved a person (not to mistaken by truly lusting someone) then this should not even be a question.
in answer.. yes i would wait.. and would not run away, because if the thought of running away even entered my mind, it shows me that it is not her that i actually wanted, but her ****.
need a reality check here.. a relationship is not all about sex.. and should never be.. i know that some people disagree, and well i feel sorry for you, however understand you.
i know it is hard to be a virgin these days.. and well i admire and respect that woman for standing up for her morals and not backing down. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 7:57:36 PM |
i know it is hard to be a virgin these days.. and well i admire and respect that woman for standing up for her morals and not backing down.
sorry that was meant to say:
i know it is hard to be a virgin these days.. and well i admire and respect all woman like this for standing up for her morals and not backing down. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 8:05:54 PM | for those who think that the sex can be improved over time, I refer you to the show that
Oprah Winfrey did last year, where she described the problems many american women have encountered with their sexual abilities. Time manazine also reported on the same issue, and
showed that many women had had sexual difficulties, but they were not even aware that this
was a poblem, and that their lack of response was nothing to do with their partner's behaviour. Yes, it is real. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 8:18:30 PM | this is only a problem if sex is the main focus of a relationship... far out there is so much more to life than sex.. and definatly more to a relationship.
If i married a woman that could not have sex, then so be it.. im not going to change my love for her, not going to find other avenues. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:08:43 PM | I'm not wimping out of answering your questions. I simply don't like your style or the seeming hostility that accompanies it. Besides, I am suspect that it's not my opinion you are seeking, but rather a fight. I'm just not interested in that.
Ooli, I agree with you completely. His words and finger pointing both demonstrate his apparent hostility to other points of view.
I can't speak about the low-class men, elsewhere and on this site; however, absolutely men will wait. Especially, desirable men, the kind women want—tall, smart, handsome, and athletic. Also, like Marathonman pointed out, very few men will fall outside the normal range for sexual compatibility. Furthermore, I’m not opposed to being 100 percent sure with discussions and observation during an occasional skinny dipping or playing.
And, I'll not only love it, I am going to be great at sex. I may not do anal and seldom oral, but otherwise, I’m going to be everything my husband wants and more. Any position, most any place—bed, floor, shower, kitchen table, outside in cover of darkness, in the water, a locked public restroom, and I’ll do it morning and night. I’ll even surprise him at work one day when dressed in a mini-skirt I ask his boss if I can borrow his office and my husband because I can’t wait until tonight. And afterwards, I'll kiss his boss on the cheek and say, “Thanks, I needed that.” My husband will get a lot of kidding, but he’s going to love it. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 11:37:01 PM | Adriana....... I completely disagree... and for the record I just dont get the correlation between tall handsome and athletic..... and desirability... and then women say we are shallow... cuz we prefer curvy sexy bodies..... with big breasts and Ass
Just because A guy is tall... athletic.. and whatever... doesnt necessarilly make him the catch of the day... also doesnt necessarilly mean he is the guy who will wait for marriage.........In fact... It is guys like that... that have never had to wait for sex a day in their life... y'know why.. cuz women say.. Oh I just want a nice respectful guy... then the second something. with muscles walk in the room.. they go all gaga for him... And its guys like that.... those Alpha males... that will refuse to wait.. cuz they dont have to... but hey- yknow... good luck in your search for that guy...
It might sound like Im being a little bit envious here... and for the record... maybe I am.... but most of the "tall dark and handsome" types... are for the most part ***holes.. you know why... cuz they can be... Now Im just speaking generally... there are exceptions to the rule....
and thats my two cents... now Ill just sit back and wait for the inevitable backlash....... | |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 2:28:47 AM | Just because A guy is tall... athletic.. and whatever... doesnt necessarilly make him the catch of the day... also doesnt necessarilly mean he is the guy who will wait for marriage.........In fact... It is guys like that... that have never had to wait for sex a day in their life... y'know why.. cuz women say.. Oh I just want a nice respectful guy... then the second something. with muscles walk in the room.. they go all gaga for him... And its guys like that.... those Alpha males... that will refuse to wait.. cuz they dont have to...
Brooklyn7, you are 100 percent correct. We do go for the Alpha males because they are smart, have more muscles, and are better looking. And it's true, they don't have to wait for sex, because gals are throwing themselfs at them. Also, it is true they are less faithful.
And, they may get a lot of sex from other girls; however, just the same, they will wait to marry a gurl like me. And, when one does, I'm going to give him so much and such great sex, that he will not have a lot of sexual energy left for other gals. Because, I'll demand it night, morning, and tell him to come home for lunch. And, if he wants a night out with the guys, that okay after he does me first.
I know how it is with Alpha males and I don't like to share so I'll keep him so drained he won't have much sexual energy left over for other gals. Yes, he will still get a few. You and I both know that's built into Alpha males; however, I rather have most of an Alpha male than all of some less attractive nice guy. | |
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