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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/20/2006 3:52:01 PM |
Boy, there sure is a lot of tension and hostility coming out on this thread. I think y'all just need to get laid. And sooner, rather than later. - msannthrope
What a wonderful solution! I wholeheartedly agree.
Of course, as I have pointed out elsewhere, I got laid at 9 AM this morning, so I'm doing just fine, thank you. No pent-up sexual frustration here! | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/20/2006 3:58:29 PM |
It's like someone saying, "I have a great work ethic but I've been unemployed for two years." Yea, riiight. People seem to think sex is all the other person wants. That's not the case. They simply want to know how the other person feels about sex. How important is sex to the other person? How important is working for a living if a guy has been unemployed for two years? You'd think folks could make the connection. Good grief! - dave1234
Holy Moses! Someone just came in and started talking sense! Hold on a minute whilst I steady myself on the keyboard. I feel woozy.
Of course, someone is naturally going to come back and say, "Ah, but that person is probably just waiting for "The Right Job," otherwise known as, "The One." Employment is so important to them that they are willing to pass up job after job after job.
And when they find that job, ho boy! Look out!
They may have never worked before, but they are going to be an instant expert! Just as long as nobody asks them to do that freaky stuff, like being on top, or nasty things like blowjobs, or you know, that whole "taking off your clothes with the light on" thing. That's just nasty.
(For those of you who weren't paying attention, THAT was making fun of somebody ... since some of ya'll can't seem to tell the difference. Actually, two somebodies.) | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/20/2006 7:42:05 PM | Hi,
if we got along great but she had this weird un-fetish about "we'll do everything but vaginal intercourse" until marriage... and I thought we were going to get married... I might.
though I'd think she was weird... but there's LOTS more options than just straight f**king... as it stands now that's mayby 10 minutes of an hour plus it takes for proper sex....
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/20/2006 7:54:18 PM | > sex is important to me and being with a woman that I'm attracted to without having sex is > torture.
Hi,
but the OP didn't say no sex... just no vaginal intercourse...
that leaves LOTS of other ways you can get each other off...
I can think of at least 4 different ways and I could undoubtedly come up with a few more 
I've heard of this (though never met one) being called being a "technical virgin"... oral, anal, manual, etc. are all perfectly acceptable....just no penis in vagina.
I -had- a fiance' who had this weird idea that we shouldn't have straight sex (oral, etc was fine) after we were engaged but before the wedding because it'd make it "more special".
that lasted 4 months.... though I must say the sex was good right up to the end of the relationship.
today, dating, if there's no sex (of some sort... you might call it an expression of interest  ) there isn't a date 4  . | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/20/2006 8:09:25 PM | > I'm interested to know what parameters she must meet to be a successful test drive?
Hi,
well using the buying a car analogy....before the purchase (marriage) there would be both a "test drive" and a "long lease period".
the initial test drive would show basic functionality, suitability for purpose, etc... which works out to be do you physically/psychologically do it for each other.... if she's just so inhibited all she'll consider is straight missionary sex with the lights off and is unwilling to learn there's really no point to me.
but if you're both open minded and willing to learn how to get each other off (yes good sex is in large part learned) then that's the "lease period"... you date, learn each others little quirks, take a vacation together, maybe even live together, THEN get married....
(and then there's the divorced folks here who do NOT want to get remarried) | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 2:34:04 AM | I think it's wonderful that you have decided to wait. Kudos to you. We have to be true to ourselves.
About the hostility on this thread, I have decided to ignore any posters who are exceedingly rude to me or other people on a consistent basis.
Ooli, I appreciate that. I do try to ignore the worse ones because I know they are hopeless. The others that I believe I might be able to reach, I try to respond to. However, usually they just get more angry. The very idea that a teenager might be able to contribute is more than their fragile egos can take.
But I'm not completely blameless. Some of my posts have been unnecessarily unkind and I still need to work on that. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 5:26:39 AM |
Obviously, you do feel that it is necessary to have sex prior to marriage, because you've never had any other kind of sex.
Obviously, you fail to grasp the concept and meaning of necessity. A choice is not necessarily made out of necessity but out of sheer choice. For example; I didn't find it necessary to respond, I chose to do so.
Except I'm not speculating Oh, but in the context that you CHOSE to use the term you are speculating just as everyone else. 1 a : to meditate on or ponder a subject : REFLECT b : to review something idly or casually and often inconclusively 1 : to take to be true on the basis of insufficient evidence : THEORIZE
2 : to be curious or doubtful about : WONDER
I am also entirely confident that you won't wait, either. And of the two of us, I am the only one speaking from experience.
I am entirely confident that I would. I am also confident that both quoted statements meet the definition of pompous,arrogance and the later also represents an utter falshood. You claim that you have experience that you wouldn't wait. Yet you have yet to have found "the one" being that this thread is about sex until after MARRIAGE. Marriage is something you've tried and FAILED at. Therefore you have no experience. Do you? Your attempt to find "the one"(marriage) FAILED. Thus the OP's question is speculative in nature to you as well as anyone else.
Someone who doesn't want to wait until marriage is stating that they won't wait under very specific circumstances Perhaps you haven't noticed but that is what the thread is about.....Waiting until marriage. That is what my comments have been directed towards. Lets stay on topic
You'll notice this is my first direct response to you in quite a while, Ooli. That's because someone else was kind enough to show me the thread where you went to the mods complaining that everyone else in this thread was being hostile, when it was generally acknowledged that you and Scraps were doing the baiting, and name-calling.
I have nothing hostile to say to you at all. In fact, I'm the one that started ignoring you, first. If there were an "ignore" feature on this forum, like there is on so many forums, I would gladly put you on iggy. Unfortunately, that is not an option available to me. I've watched you deliberately engage people in other threads just so you could draw back in indignation and inform them that they weren't treating you the way that you wish to be treated. That's fine, and if you're aspiring to be a mod, then by all means, do so. There are many ways of controlling the course of a conversation. Actually, that post seems to be a violation of rules against off topic chat (others as well).Lets stay on topic
This is the OP's poll:
I'm interested in how many men would wait till marriage if they met the right woman? Even if you were both NOT virgins, do you think you could wait if that was her choice? I'm not saying you can't do other things, but the actual intercourse...could you wait for it? Simple question,its a poll.
what if you went on a first date and the girl tells you she's waiting for marraige, how would you react? Not ever call her again? Or maybe stick around? Fairly simple. Now beyond polling POFers it would seem that the threads topic would include the topic of sexual compatiblity since that is a large part of the issues expressed by many of those who have said that they would not. Most other things seem off topic. If this narrowly but easily defined
perameters cannot be discussed without off topic issues or negativity brought in,the thread is likely to be closed and banning is possible. I am NOT a moderator. I think the OP was genuinely curious and thought this was a fun poll to make. On related topics anyone can open a new thread. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 9:31:59 AM |
I do try to ignore the worse ones because I know they are hopeless. The others that I believe I might be able to reach, I try to respond to. However, usually they just get more angry. The very idea that a teenager might be able to contribute is more than their fragile egos can take. - adriana1986
Ah yes, the dramatic aside. Also known as the stage whisper, owing to that onstage device where you say something to the audience (or in this case, another poster) without saying it straight. Very cute.
The problem is, by doing so, you're not ignoring me. You simply refuse to engage me directly.
My ego is just fine, dear. Thanks for asking. If you ever want to talk to me directly, I'll be more than happy to listen. This is one environment where your age matters the least. It is your words, and how you present them, that determines how what you say is accepted. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 10:10:24 AM |
Obviously, you fail to grasp the concept and meaning of necessity. A choice is not necessarily made out of necessity but out of sheer choice. For example; I didn't find it necessary to respond, I chose to do so. - Marathonman11x7
You also find it well-nigh irresistable to copy my lines because you aren't creative enough to write your own material. Yes, I know. But it's one of your more endearing qualities.
Oh, but in the context that you CHOSE to use the term you are speculating just as everyone else. 1 a : to meditate on or ponder a subject : REFLECT b : to review something idly or casually and often inconclusively 1 : to take to be true on the basis of insufficient evidence : THEORIZE 2 : to be curious or doubtful about : WONDER - Marathonman11x7
Cute fireworks, but it doesn't answer my point. I'm not speculating, because I speak from experience. I know what I'm going to do, and I know what I'm not going to do. This is what's called a "dealbreaker," in dating parlance. I respect someone else's choice to wait until marriage. It is not, however, my choice. And I'm not going to change my mind for anyone.
You, on the other hand, are speculating about experiences you haven't had, and furthermore predicting a course of action you've never taken in four decades. I know you want our opinions to weigh the same, but they don't.
I am entirely confident that I would. I am also confident that both quoted statements meet the definition of pompous,arrogance and the later also represents an utter falshood. You claim that you have experience that you wouldn't wait. Yet you have yet to have found "the one" being that this thread is about sex until after MARRIAGE. Marriage is something you've tried and FAILED at. Therefore you have no experience. Do you? Your attempt to find "the one"(marriage) FAILED. Thus the OP's question is speculative in nature to you as well as anyone else. - Marathonman11x7
The whole concept of "The One" belongs in a movie review about The Matrix, rather than a discussion of marriage. Someday, you'll understand that. And oddly enough, sometimes it is the marriages where people are NOT soulmates, NOT the lovers of each other's lives, and NOT "The One" for each other that survive. Strange but true.
Marriage is something I have tried, and failed at. I freely admit that. But unlike you, I've tried it. I therefore have experience. You desperately want to deny that, and maybe if your verbal tapdancing were more agile, you could make it seem otherwise. Alas, you cannot.
Thus, despite your desperate and feeble attempts to create a sort of experiential equivalency between our opinions, my friend, your position remains speculative, while mine remains grounded in experience. I've been there, done that. You haven't.
Perhaps you haven't noticed but that is what the thread is about.....Waiting until marriage. That is what my comments have been directed towards. Lets stay on topic. - Marathonman11x7
I'll be happy to stay on topic if you do. This tangent, however, is yours.
Actually, that post seems to be a violation of rules against off topic chat (others as well). - Marathonman11x7
I also invited her to report the post, if she wished. You may do so, as well. Fortunately for me, even if it's deleted, the post is now recorded for posterity in your quotation, and she'll probably read it anyway. Thanks for that. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 10:36:08 AM | ^^^ I wouldn't have waited, if I had found someone that I could "connect" with. I have many psychological problems that prevented me from meeting and dating girls/women throughout my life. I have only been on one blind date that my sister setup for me, and another date that a friend setup, and then a whole bunch of ladies at a speed dating event. I feel very insecure and lack allot of self esteem, which is why I need to connect and feel very comfortable with a lady before I would even consider "making love".  | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 1:38:41 PM | Marathanman and Ooli,
Surprising... to most people in this day and age... you can wait. It's not easy, but if desire to make this committment to another person, you can.
I think the challenge is self-control, respect for another person's heart and saying that you care for that other person more than you care to please your own desires. The challenge of loving the other person enough not take for self-gratification something that will cause great trauma and will be very painful to recover from later.
People who don't wait;
1) can be in need of acceptance and trying to replace sex with meaningful intimacy and love hoping the other person will transfer and connect sex with accepting them and loving them as a person (their character, personality, beliefs, passions...). They usually don't have enough self-esteem/self-worthy or value themselves enough to cause others to respect and value them, as well.
2) can be people who are not interested in the other person. They are thinking stricky about self-gratification. They busy themselves running from life issue to life issue and talking big and bold. They never take time to stop and listen to the child inside, sometimes it's scary to face dealing with what's on the inside. Usually they have been hurt themselves. But, they are wounded people going around with no self-control; not caring to hurt others because they are hurting and/or turned cold and hard inside, and don't care anymore.
There are repercussions for every decision we make...  | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 2:05:39 PM |
My, my, my; don't some guys have resentment of Alpha males. I understand how it is. When gurls look at them, their panties stay on and dry. The Alpha males are Soooo sexy, but the though of getting naked with them--how gross. - adriana1986
It helps if you actually indicate who you're talking to, Adriana, so we know which one of us should laugh. While I'm sure this level of commentary is really devastating to that poor boy over in Alpha Phi Alpha, you're in a wider arena, now, and the bar is a little higher for laying down the smacktalk. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 2:27:40 PM | It helps if you actually indicate who you're talking to, Adriana
I'm sorry but the rule is, You can slam & bash the Topic or Subject under Discussion all you like, but you cannot insult, bash and slam other Posters. I did not wish to insult the individual. However, even though my post was not in response to any of your posts, I cannot help it if you see yourself as one of the less desirable and lower ranking males and take it personal. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 2:40:36 PM |
I'm sorry but the rule is, You can slam & bash the Topic or Subject under Discussion all you like, but you cannot insult, bash and slam other Posters. I did not wish to insult the individual. However, even though my post was not in response to any of your posts, I cannot help it if you see yourself as one of the less desirable and lower ranking males and take it personal. - adriana1986
There's nothing to be sorry about. If you're this consistently inept at insulting people, it's probably best that you leave it to those with some talent in the area. | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 2:46:37 PM | in order that we can bring the subject right back to what it should be.... NO!!!!!! i cant wait until marriage for the sex..... anybody that suggests it is totally insane!!!!!!! lol
i mean, the sex part is a great leveller.... it is a good opportunity to develop other roles and responsibilities... for instance.... who sleeps on the wet patch? who gets the chocolate sauce? who goes downstairs on sunday morning to make the coffee and toast while the other gets ready for luuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
come on guys..... wake up to reality!!!!! lol | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 2:54:46 PM | Brooklyn7, you are 100 percent correct. We do go for the Alpha males because they are smart, have more muscles, and are better looking. And it's true, they don't have to wait for sex, because gals are throwing themselfs at them. Also, it is true they are less faithful
i just read this..... adriana, honey.... GET SOME SMARTS!!!!!!! since when did a jock know even where to begin doing trigonometry? since when could he even string together 3 sentences into a meaningful dialogue?????????? what is going on in your head? ok... i have decided that you are just here to yank everyones chain.... not nice.... though pretty.... (((((thinks..... i think i would do her....)))))))
oh, and BILL CLINTON?????????? LOL smart....hmmmmm "I did not have sex with that woman....".... adriana, where do you put say..... bill gates....? | |
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| GUYS!!! If you met the right woman, could you wait for the sex till marriage?
Posted: 2/21/2006 3:11:43 PM | Well I have read about enough of the posted answers. Id like to make a comment now.
One must ask the Question what would be the reason a woman would want to wait.???
For the most part I agree wholehaeartedly that its all GOOd and pleasureable. However.....
I havent seen one comment showing concern for the moral religeous falling of having Sex before Marriage. It is clearly stated in the bible. I know that may not be a popular answer especially for you younger heathens...lol..but Since I have come to the Lord in recent years...and am still seeking my soul mate.. The timing and Beauty will be to wait. My decision and hers made mutually for the same reason. The Pleasurability and all the rest will Take care of itself..Talk about it !! Youll Know by her answers.. the karma of intimacy is in the mind and spirit..Thats what makes it good...the physical act..well its the vehicle...the relationship is the Hemi under the Hood. All those other justification answers are just that ... and Bull. We seem to lack any moral standards today. I am sure there other Christian men out here...Whats wrong with you guys ..Stand up and be heard.!! Thanks for reading.. by the way...I have done my share and more of Sex prior to Marriage. The relationship changes when it happens and it becomes all about that and not the rest. Wev are only here a short while guys...Live with the end in Mind and where youll be when you leave this place. | |
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