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| What do you think Reality is..?????
Posted: 1/20/2006 5:20:00 PM |
Okay well it is obviously time for Chang Tzu's butterfly poem right?
well said, even though u really didnt say it. ;) | |
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| What do you think Reality is..?????
Posted: 1/20/2006 5:27:13 PM | essaress;
I have always believed that life is pure perception. That reality is only real to those who believe it and that science can only advance on merit of comprehension; since we are only as intelligent as the last thing we learned... if you get my meaning.
There may well be different forms of reality; no one can force what they see as real. Yes, I agree, there has to be a consensus to some degree. Not sure what you mean by "perceptions of specific phenomena" though... could you illustrate that for me? | |
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| What do you think Reality is..?????
Posted: 1/20/2006 6:04:05 PM | Point of Clarification....
Not sure what you mean by "perceptions of specific phenomena" though... could you illustrate that for me?
We are by nature ...group living animals.. as a group...think of that painting from the middle ages (Brittany I think,..or german village..) where the painter represented a number of townspeople looking at the sky as a number of "things" crossed the sky...
Townspeople say to town leader, burgher, mayor..whatever,.."What was that in God's Holy Name??" ...or words to that effect... Head man confers with local Priest, or Holy Man , Or Medicine Man...whatever...," Do you have Any Idea WTF?"....
Holy Man,.."It was God Throwing More of the Fallen To Perdition"...or words to that effect...
Words get duly repeated..Repetition Gets Repeated...Everyone says,"Yup, I heard that too"...and before you can say zippity-doo-dah..One Mans poor and illogical and superstitious explanation of an completely natural phenomena.....is now "God's Retribution" in action for a "FACT"...
ie..General concensus of specific phenomena.....
As I write this it occurs to me there was another such event in the middle ages where a pretty large meteor apparently struck the moon and was witnessed here as the moon turning blood red in the space of minutes...this was certainly seen as the work of the Devil ...
Hope this helps... | |
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| What do you think Reality is..?????
Posted: 1/20/2006 6:49:41 PM | Yes, oh yeah... I had an inclination that’s what you may have been referring to but I wanted clarification, as in anything could be perceived as the work of the supernatural (good or bad) depending which side of the fence you are... I say, sit on the darn fence and observe... people shouldn't knock it, it's how we learn.
Cheers! | |
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| What do you think Reality is..?????
Posted: 1/20/2006 9:15:20 PM | From a scientific standpoint, Reality is made up of energy. This energy is constructed in many forms and variations. One would think that someone created all this.
I believe of course that God created this all. I also believe that everything was created for a reason; his purpose if you will. Yep, my beliefs, but this is what I think. | |
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| What do you think Reality is..?????
Posted: 1/20/2006 9:45:26 PM | Reality is what each individual chooses to perceive it as.People are usually labelled eccentric if their views dont jive with what the general masses perecption of it is:) | |
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| What do you think Reality is..?????
Posted: 1/20/2006 11:11:19 PM | Hi,
For Kytasau: I do not take Playto to be saying that no reality exists but that reality is not known by our five senses. They deal only with illusion. Back to dropping of the object, the fall of the object is the 'illusion' and gravity is the reality. Our senses perceive the falling object, it takes the 'mind' to know gravity. At least that is my understanding of it.
Peace,
Mack | |
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| What do you think Reality is..?????
Posted: 1/20/2006 11:19:04 PM | I really like this wiki
What reality might not be
"Reality," the concept, is contrasted with a wide variety of other concepts, largely depending upon the intellectual discipline. It can help to understand what we mean by "reality" to note what we say is not real.
In philosophy, reality is contrasted with nonexistence (e.g., unicorns do not exist; so they are not real) and mere possibility (a mountain made of gold is merely possible, but is not real) unless they are discovered. Sometimes philosophers speak as though reality is contrasted with existence itself, though ordinary language and many other philosophers would treat these as synonyms. They have in mind the notion that there is a kind of reality--a mental or intensional reality, perhaps--that imaginary objects, such as the aforementioned golden mountain, have. Alexius Meinong is famous, or infamous, for holding that such things have so-called subsistence, and thus a kind of reality, even while they do not actually exist. Most philosophers find the very notion of "subsistence" mysterious and unnecessary, and one of the shibboleths and starting points of 20th century analytic philosophy has been the forceful rejection of the notion of subsistence--of "real" but nonexistent objects.
It is worth saying at this point that many philosophers are not content with saying merely what reality is not--some of them have positive theories of what broad categories of objects are real, in addition. See ontology as well as philosophical realism; these topics are also briefly treated below.
In ethics, political theory, and the arts, reality is often contrasted with what is ideal.
One of the fundamental issues in ethics is called the is-ought problem, and it can be formulated as follows: Given our knowledge of the way the world is, how can we know the way the world ought to be? Most ethical views hold that the world we live in (the real world) is not ideal - and, as such, there is room for improvement.
Political theory is often an extension of the above. Few (if any) political views hold that the world we live in is the best possible world. Most political views argue that the world - or, more specifically, present-day society - could be improved in one way or another, and propose various means to achieve such an improvement.
In the arts there was a broad movement beginning in the 19th century, realism (which led to naturalism), which sought to portray characters, scenes, and so forth, realistically. This was in contrast and reaction to romanticism, which portrayed their subjects idealistically. Commentary about these artistic movements is sometimes put in terms of the contrast between the real and the ideal: on the one hand, the average, ordinary, and natural, and on the other, the superlative, extraordinary, improbable, and sometimes even supernatural. Obviously, when speaking in this sense, "real" (or "realistic") does not have the same meaning as it does when, for example, a philosopher uses the term to distinguish, simply, what exists from what does not exist.
In the arts, and also in ordinary life, the notion of reality (or realism) is also often contrasted with illusion. A painting that precisely indicates the visually-appearing shape of a depicted object is said to be realistic in that respect; one that distorts features, as Pablo Picasso's paintings are famous for doing, are said to be unrealistic, and thus some observers will say, but with questionable grammatical correctness, that they are "not real." But there are also tendencies in the visual arts toward so-called realism and more recently photorealism that invite a different sort of contrast with the real. Trompe l'oeil (French, "fool the eye") paintings render their subjects so "realistically" that the casual observer might temporarily be deceived into thinking that he is seeing something, indeed, real--but in fact, it is merely an illusion, and an intentional one at that.
In psychiatry, reality, or rather, the idea of being in touch with reality is integral to the notion of schizophrenia, since it has often been defined in part by reference to being "out of touch" with reality. The schizophrenic is said to have hallucinations and delusions which concern people and events that are not real. However, there is controversy over what is considered out of touch with reality, particularly due to the noticeable comparison of the process of forcefully instituting individuals for expressing their beliefs in society to reality enforcement. The practice's possible covert use as a political tool can perhaps be illustrated by the 18th Century psychiatric sentences in the U.S of black slaves for 'crazily' attempting to escape. See also anti-psychiatry and one its prominent figures, the psychiatrist Thomas Szasz.
In each of these cases, discussions of reality, or what counts as "real," take on quite different casts; indeed, what we say about reality often depends on what we want to say it is not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality#What_reality_might_not_be | |
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