| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/19/2006 9:06:08 PM | dip:
I think you need to sue the doctor who only did half the lobotomy you were scheduled for. Get him to finish the job. Then maybe your pitiful attempts at humour or intelligent commentary could be fully excusable.
Maybe if you and your friend foxefire go in together, you can get a package deal.
Ave atque vale. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/20/2006 7:13:43 AM | i believe thats from george carlin, so ima quote the question he posed at the end of that bit:
"Why is it IL-legal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away?" | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/20/2006 9:14:39 AM | In his book Prostitution and Prejudice, Jewish historian Edward Bristow writes about the world prostitution network and clearly shows the prominent Jewish role. It is not hard to conceive of the reaction of many Eastern Europeans to the Jewish enslavement and degradation of tens of thousands of Christian girls. Bristow reveals that the center of the Jewish trade in Gentile women from Poland and surrounding regions was a small town called Oswiecim, which the Germans called Auschwitz. That simple revelation can bring much understanding of the recurrent Jewish and Gentile conflict.
And for more enlightenmrnt I suggest you read the book Who Brought the Slaves to America by Walter White. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/20/2006 11:27:27 AM |
"Why is it IL-legal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away?" Because the judges and lawyers don't want their names on a brothel list of preferred customers. Also, when it's on the street, it's cheaper so their wives won't be suspiscious when they notice a $400 charge on the Visa to The Chicken Ranch. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/21/2006 12:59:03 AM | Gossamer:
Oh boy---here come the anti-semites. Next you will send us to read Frank Weltner and that miserable website he has called: www.jewwatch.com After that, should we read the pamphlets and writing of George Lincoln Rockwell? Walter White is a known racist who can only get published through the neo-Nazi Sons of Liberty Press (do not confuse this Walter White with the great civil rights leader Walter White). Any more racist and anti-Semitic authors you would like to have us read? Do you wash and iron your own sheet and hood? | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/21/2006 6:59:23 AM | ^
Gossamer, what is it with your type anyway ? Why do you guys always find a way to blame some social ill on Jews ? Better yet, how many Jews do you know ? How many have you ever met that have given you any reason to hate them ? I suppose the predictable answer is that you've never met a Jew you liked and they've all admitted to you that they take part in the sort of nonsense you and your ilk always attribute to them. What would be a more precise and honest answer is that you've bought into the racist literature and propaganda that tells you all about the world-wide Jewish conspiracy and from there you look at every Jew with an eye out for tell-tale signs to back up your beliefs. For example, if a Jew gets caught laundering money, that's all the evidence you need to cement your view that all Jews are money launderers. Let me guess though, you also believe that black folks are lazy and stupid, Hispanics are stealing jobs that should be yours if you would do them, and Muslims are all terrorists. And of course, any white Christians that don't see things your way are all hoodwinked as well right ? Or worse yet, they are traitors hoping for their piece of the pie when the conspiracy is unveiled. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/22/2006 3:40:45 AM | the taxman can't tax them cause there not honest about their earnings and there is no way of regulating it,unless we become a cash less society as a whole.Here in OZ I haven't met anyone being charged for having sex with a pro. Unlucky Americans.Have you got brothel's if so use them.(whorehouse) I think your terminology is for it. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/22/2006 8:40:14 PM | Why is it leagal to sell something and it's legal to screw
But it's not legal to sell screwing??? | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/22/2006 8:56:42 PM | Have you got brothel's if so use them.(whorehouse) I think your terminology is for it.
You mean like the whorehouses they have in Australia? Massage Parlors I think is your terminology. No those types of Massage Parlors are illegal too. The ACLU would never approve of those types of working conditions. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/23/2006 10:58:23 AM | Prositution should be legal for the following reasons:
1) You can set a minimum age that you would have to be. By doing that you can then put your resources into getting the children, who are exploited by the very worst of society, off of the street. You can then punish these people who take advantage of the young to the full extent of the law.
2) You can enssure that the prostitutes get tested. You would license them and only renew it if the tests come back clean.
3) Most vice cops will tell you that it's a revolving door. They arrest one hooker only to see her out on the street in 24 hours. So by legalizing it, you can put the cops to better use.
4) It's the oldest proffession, next to farming. It isn't going away anytime soon. If you legalize it you can ensure that the people that work in the trade are safe.
5) The tourism factor and the tax revenue that goes along with it. It would be a boom for the economy.
6) Sex sells, so regulate it. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/23/2006 2:57:40 PM | Actually, it should be legalized. They should do like they do in Nevada and in Mexico. In Mexico, they have a seperate district set aside walloed off from the rest of town. The "tricks" have to register there "profession" and have to mandatorily have a weekly check up to ensure they do not havge diseases. Condom use and training a MUST. If a trick refuses to register AND have the mandatory check ups, they get jail time if they prove they have a disease: AIDS/HIV, Hepatits, Gonerreah, etc. It is alwasy good to have QUALITY control. Prevents disease. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 8:28:55 AM | Should it be legal? NO.
Prostitution is a dirty, scummy trade, that is largely responsible for the spread of aids & other std's...the breakup of marriages, drug addicts throwing needles around, and exposing thier discusting lifestyle to innocent people, who have to watch them roam the streets at night in thier neighborhoods, usually drunk or strung out looking for thier next trick. I've seen it many times.
They have no respect in the community, they add nothing to the community but embarrassment and discust.
I cannot believe that so many on this thread are promoting such a deplorable infestation. Hookers should be sterilized when caught and thrown in jail until they old enough that people wouldn't want to even think about having sex with them.
Would I support ANYONE in my family becoming a prostitute? Absolutely not. I would drag them out by the hair if I had to. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 8:36:36 AM | | ^I don't think many are supporting the actual practice of prostitution so much as simply admitting that it's not going to go away. I mean, if you can think of a way to get rid of it that is a cure which isn't worse than the disease then by all means, enlighten us. However, all of those things you mentioned would be dealt with to a greater degree and far more effectively if it was a regulated industry than is currently the case. I don't agree with it any more than you do for pretty much the same reasons but I also know that it isn't going to ever go away. That being the case, all we do now is push it underground and allow the crudest and most repulsive members of society to run this trade. Pimps aren't concerned with the health and welfare of prostitutes to any great degree. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 12:09:21 PM | | Is giving someone an orgasm really a crime, in the army you get a medal for killing at home you go to jail for an orgasm go figure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 12:17:56 PM | | I am pretty sure you have said that before. You know what your argument demonstrates - that the law with respect to war is different then the laws that govern our country. That in no way justifies the legalization of prostitution, it is a poor argument. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 12:52:23 PM | I have worked at the street level with sex trade workers. Here are some examples of why they became involved with prostitution:
To fund their university education
To put food on the table
To support a drug habit
To support their pimps/boyfriends
To support their children
To pay bills
In some cases the women enjoyed what they were doing as long as they were treated with respect. Some had actually built up relationships with certain clients.
In other cases, it was a means to an end.
In all cases, there was the fear factor of being beaten or killed by a potential 'john'.
Legalizing this occupation would reduce the control a pimp has over a woman, allow the women to collect directly from a client without having to give it to their pimp, provide a safe environment for the women to practice in and support the practice of safe sex. It also allows more for regulations to be passed on johns (safe sex, paying for services, no violence) It would also remove the associative activities of johns cruising neighbourhoods and harassing neighbourhood women they mistake as sex workers as well as the clandestine drug houses that crop up in close proximity to the 'strolls'.
Prostitution has not and will never go away. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 2:07:14 PM | rbd; Yes it is a crime when Children are exposed to this type of atrocity, and disease is spread.
Gotapulse; I am glad to hear that you dont agree with it, however I don't think that accepting it is the way either. Lets face it, Canadian law is a joke. They need to crack down on these people and issue far stiffer sentences then a few days in the joint. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 2:20:35 PM | Bewitched,
Lets face it, you have done little to no reading on the concept of deterrence.
Sorry, but it bothers me when people assume that stiffer penalties will reduce crime. Quite simply this is not the case.
With respect to specific deterrence, i.e. preventing that individual from re-offending, there is mixed opinion, but a great majority will re-offend.
However, when considering general deterrence - i.e. preventing other people from committing the crime because of the fear of punishment, it fails. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 3:50:34 PM | Sorry Brain-In-A-Vat; but I totally disagree with you. It is not a deterrent right now because there is no punishment for the crime. I don't call a fine or a few days in jail punishment, and frankly our prison systems are just as much as a joke as the Canadian law is.
If the penalties were stiffer..say 10 yrs in jail WITHOUT perole, or none of this 2/3rds of the time business, then people would think twice about commiting crimes.
I've actually known offenders in my life that have specifically comitted a crime so they would serve time and have a place to stay for the winter, free 3 meals a day, free cable, & free leisure activities, which yes they do get in prison. Hell, they can even publish a book while they are in there, or get a free career! Oh and don't forget the drugs...it's just as easy to access drugs in the prisons then it is on the streets. Now if that isn't saying something about our justice system then I don't know what is, not to mention the fact that when they commit a crime, they get out the next morning on bail, and they don't even have to worry about the consequences for at least six months to a year or more because the courts are so backed up.
Now I agree with you that it is not a deterrant in the long run, because once in jail for a long time, some people become institutionalized, but getting the scum off the street is certainly going to lesson the number of prostitutes that are out there. If they know they are looking at hard time, they won't be galavanting out in public on the streets of Toronto and such flagging down cars to sell thier goodies in front of children. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 6:08:18 PM | No...they wouldn't be out in public on the streets....
They'd be in a house right next door to yours or mine. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 8:26:32 PM | I think it should be legal also. It doesn't make it right, but I think that making it illegal just makes the problem worse.
You have to keep in mind that most prostitutes are doing it for drug money. If we legalize drugs and get these people help we can eliminate prostitution or at least lessen it.
It already is...we just prefer to call it 'marriage'...and if you don't think that's what a wife is...trying saying 'NO' too many times.
Fortunately, not all women are like you. They don't see men as meal tickets or themselves as sexual playthings.
I've been reading your posts and I am just shaking my head. I have to wonder if you're simply a troll. I've really been trying to restrain myself from saying something. Wow. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 8:53:41 PM |
It already is...we just prefer to call it 'marriage'...and if you don't think that's what a wife is...trying saying 'NO' too many times.
This come's from experience? I don't think so. I think you lack the capacity to appreciate a monogomas relationship and I won't try to explain it to you. But, you better learn quick 'cause after 25 it's all uphill from there. That warehouse you referred to will be disapearing quickly. At best you'll become a play thing on the side but go home alone while the man goes back to his real family.
Nice to see such positive perspective from someone of 21 years. | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 10:31:17 PM |
If we legalize drugs and get these people help we can eliminate prostitution or at least lessen it.
I'm in full agreement with that.  | |
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| should prostitution be legal? Posted: 1/24/2006 10:55:26 PM | | Of course it should be legalized... then they can pay taxes like the rest of us... simple as that... | |
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