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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/10/2007 10:17:45 AM | Very well said Stephen!!! And oh so true!!
People are so quick to pick up on the propaganda they are fed!! Oh the cost to the health care system,, who will pay for that??? But wait!!! Because Smokers have been persecuted into the darkest corners of country,,,, we now need a new soap box to stand on!!! Have you heard!!!!! Obesety has now replaced smoking as the number 1 health hazard in North America and will be the biggest burden to the health care system in the not so distant future!!!!
And in a few years this post will find it's way back to the forefront, with a brand new heading,,, but the same people posting with thier negative remarks against those that do not fit within the confines of what is nothing more than politcal posturing for attention!!
To all those that claim they do not judge, but before they have finished thier sentence will have berated and belittle all that do not agree with them and thier way of doing things,,,,,
To each thier own, and respect to those that are willing to make thier own choices!!!  | |
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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/10/2007 10:34:20 AM | nobody dies from cancer caused by second hand "cat")........
 @ cheshirekitten.....too funny g/f!
remember the subject...no one is judging, just giving their OWN opinion on dating a smoker...period | |
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Posted: 3/10/2007 10:48:22 AM | very good post there Mar very well said :)
As for my answer to this question yes I would. I wouldnt date a heavy smoker as that would make me feel uncomfortable.
If the person I date is seriously making an effort to quit smoking then thats great but if they have no plans to quit anytime soon I wont try to force them to quit and just deal with it :)
I understand that quitting smoking isnt an easy task for some but I will be there to support them every step of the way :) | |
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Posted: 3/10/2007 11:09:30 AM | I still don't get how I am judging anyone...I never said anyone was a bad person...or a loser...or an idiot....for smoking...hmm.....did I? Am I missing something here???
fact is--if you smoke---chances are you will need medical care for a tobacco related illness....that is a fact...not a judgement....and again....go for it........your life.....
BUT--> I do think it would be unfair for non-smokers to pay for your medical care...that is my opinion.......
on the obesity thing-->yes...it is a huge (no pun intended) issue--> and this is an even scarier issue because the unhealthy food and it's advertisers are everywhere and geared towards children...(kind of like the tobacco industry...hmm)...but that is changing too....
Making it harder to smoke HAS cut down on the number of smokers--I don't know very many smokers anymore actually.....and this is a positive thing.......less children are starting..more people are quitting....how can you argue that this is anything but a positive thing? | |
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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/10/2007 11:11:03 AM |
{I personally would NEVER date a smoker! Its a disgusting, filthy habit. Kissing a smoker is like kissing an ash tray}
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^@WillyWonka^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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He thinks he is funny, truth is he never harasses me about being a smoker. That being said it bothers me a ton that I am a smoker, and quitting is just around the corner for me. Not because I am dating a non-smoker, but because its time. My reality is that my son is super active and if I want to be able to keep up with him, I need to be able to breathe. | |
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Posted: 3/10/2007 11:50:50 AM | ^^^ was wondering about his post! lol..
Yes, I swore I would never date a smoker again!
Ya BUT, we can't choose who we fall in love with.. ok, we can..
But I fell for all my bf's good qualities and I take the bad things too, just like he has chosen to do with me...
I am sure he didnt want to date a nailbiter.. heck, I want to quit too..
think Ive had the habit longer than he has though 
For him to quit it has to be on his own terms and in his own time.
Did I seek out a smoker, nope, but smoker or not, he's the right guy for me.
Do I wish and hope he quits one day? Yep, I wish a lot of things though.
I wish for my whole family and a number of my friends to quit too.
Gotta love them
At least my bf is respectful of my air and space when he is smoking.
Until our pof parties I never saw him smoke but knew he did.
It does seem like hes smoking more these days but I am assuming hes more comfy smoking in front of me now, but yet still respectful and fore warns me.
Funny when I joked with him that I took up smoking he said that would be silly!
I wondered why he thought so, He said at my age it would be a dumb thing to take up knowing how addictive it is!
He's right!
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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/10/2007 12:25:00 PM | and if you hate or allergic to cats, then don't date ME!!!! (My cat stays inside and I doubt cats outside do any real damage to allergic people--not anything comparable to second hand smoke--nobody dies from cancer caused by second hand "cat")........
I have a friend who is so highly allergic to cats that she flatlined once just from contact from cat hair in a library book. Another time, she had to be taken to hospital in an ambulance because of cat hair that got on the cover of their outside hottub. This was from cats being allowed outside to roam the neighbourhood. Some communities (Kingston is one) have bylaws saying cats are to be leashed when outdoors but unfortunately, enforcement is less strict than with dogs. So, the poster in message 298 has a valid point about cats, but my response to that is the solution should be to make it illegal for cats to run loose, just like it is for dogs to run loose.
To get back on topic, as I said in a previous post, I do not think of smokers as subhuman, but I do choose to not date them. And I'm getting sick of the attitude I see here that just because we choose to not date a smoker that we are treating them as subhuman. I am a big gal and there's lots of guys that won't date women of size, fine I have no problem with that, it's their preference and they are entitled to it as long as they are not rude about it.
With smoking, there is a very real health danger. Second hand smoke is dangerous, and as a diabetic, it is even more dangerous for me than for someone with no health problems. 95% of limb amuputations on diabetics are on smokers, sorry but my legs are not worth the risk of living with someone who smokes. | |
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Posted: 3/10/2007 12:37:44 PM | | SUre as long as they didn't burst into flames, ashes make a mess, lol | |
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Posted: 3/10/2007 12:46:13 PM | date a smoker,, NO WAY,, plain and simple,, smokers are blocked from my contact me list. I don't even have friends that are smokers.
Now before you jump on me that I may be missing out on some wonderful people,, I know that,, but I quit smoking 20 years ago and some days I still fight the urge,, so the last thing I need, is to be around smokers, 1 smoke a day or 2 packs a day. I can not and will not be any where near a smoker. And besides that,, contrary to what smokers think, they do smell, their teeth turn yellow, their voice goes deep and there are pre-mature lines on the face.
ps,, and on top of all that I watched my mother die a slow and painful death due to her smoking
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Posted: 3/10/2007 2:53:34 PM | He thinks he is funny, truth is he never harasses me about being a smoker.
Very true. I do think Im funny haha ok no I dont. I would never bug her about smoking. Truth be told it doesnt bother me in the least. Hell, Ive even tried to mooch the odd one off of her. Of course she laughs in my face and makes fun of my manhood but thats another story. Where was I? Oh yeah!
People said I would become one of those militant non-smokers when I quit and here it is 2 years later and Im still not. I understand how hard it is to quit and that a person has to quit for the right reasons before they can do it. No amount of complaning from me is going to make her quit anytime soon. In fact, it'll probably make her smoke longer. If she wants to quit, its completely up to her and Ill be there to support her as best as I can.
Fact is, I love my better half and I wouldnt let something so insignificant as smoking get in the way. Holidays on the other hand, I apparently have a problem with :) | |
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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/10/2007 3:02:15 PM |
To all those that claim they do not judge, but before they have finished thier sentence will have berated and belittle all that do not agree with them and thier way of doing things,,,,,
Isn't that statement judging and berating and belittling others?  | |
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Posted: 3/10/2007 3:09:44 PM | | My ex husband starting smoking at age 32...the time he started messing with my best friend..a heavy smoker. He was the reason I stopped smoking....and the reason I started again...when I caught him cheating....lol. He's 40 now and still smoking. How ridiculous ! | |
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Posted: 3/10/2007 4:42:06 PM | | Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the smoker thing.............you guys ment cigarettes???? | |
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Posted: 3/11/2007 9:43:41 AM | "Or have a stroke or heart attack? Cancer?? Who should pay for that???? Tax payers who don't smoke? Is that fair???? Statistically...smoking causes a plethora of nasty diseases....and you know that....right?"
Please provide the confirmed World Health Organization statistics that plainly state non-smokers who have never come into contact with second-hand smoke or smokers in any capacity what-so-ever have ever in the history of humanity not developed cancer, had a stroke or heart attack, caught "nasty diseases" or have died. I have a sneaking suspicion that these things happen regardless of what people do or don't do to themselves, and despite how much they truly believe that they have any control over how healthy or long their lives will be. For all we know, smoking keeps people alive longer than they would have as non-smokers.
I pay taxes for a lot of things that don't have anything to do with me. I have no children, and yet I pay taxes that go to fund schools. Conversely, I've seen how money earmarked for clinics and hospitals has gone to general infrastructure pet projects that only relate to health in the way their justifications have been worded. There's no reliability that taxes go where they should. In Canada, two-tier health care wasn't doable, until the last government closed enough general hospitals to create a demand for it. However, you have actually stumbled upon the reason for all of this anti-smoking paranoia. The government and insurance companies don't want to pay for free health care, and are scrambling for excuses not to do so before the majority of Baby Boomers - the last generation to grow up believing that smoking wasn't harmful - step up to the trough. If a heart can be replaced, why can't lungs? Oh, sorry, you're a smoker... however, if you're a drunk driver and you get into a car accident that leaves you with a punctured lung, oh we can fix that for free... if you're not a smoker... | |
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Posted: 3/11/2007 10:02:58 AM | I cannot believe you have actually convinced yourself that "smoking-related diseases" are propaganda.....absolutely ridiculous! My mother cannot breathe because her lungs have shriveled up because of a life of smoking...plain and simple.....do you see many marathon runners that smoke? I hear smokers wheezing and coughing after walking up a flight of stairs....I have seen those pro-smoking websites and they are laughable.....just excuses for an addiction.....you want another set of lungs??? what happened to the first set if smoking didn't destroy them--> the reason we don't want to pay for your new lungs sir, is because smoking related illnesses are preventable---if you are an alcoholic, you will not get a new liver...plain and simple (you have the $$ to pay for it and exploit someone from a third world country)...there is an idea...go to India--I am sure you can buy some new lungs to fill up with tar and nicotine for the right price....(but that stuff is safe, right?) If you smoke---
If your 10 year old child asked for a puff...what would you say? If they asked you if you thought they should start smoking...what would you say? If they came up with a way to quit without any sort of side effects...would you do it? If a woman was carrying your baby would you encourage her to smoke?
Smoking is still the number one preventable cause of death.....lung cancer being the most preventable of all cancers....these are facts, not propaganda....but you don't want to hear...so keep on puffing, sir.....it is your life...your choice....and still...I am not judging you......I just wouldn't date you....... | |
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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/11/2007 10:09:07 AM | What is it that you think you're preventing, miss? What if your arguements are ridiculous? :-)
If I was considered your perfect potential life partner, and yet I worked as, say, a garbage man or cleaned toilets or slaughtered cows for a living and always stank from doing that, would you still date me? What if any of those things were my profession and I was a non-smoker? What if you caught something that left you without the sense of smell for the rest of your life? Your arguement is that you wouldn't date a smoker because we smell bad to you, but one wonders if you wouldn't just come up with another excuse if that wasn't an issue.
It's also increasingly funny how you claim not to judge, and yet you suggest that a smoker would be a bad parent... uh, didn't you mention your mother smoked? oops | |
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Posted: 3/11/2007 10:18:32 AM | Not to feed into this alleged pro-smoking propaganda machine, but I know a marathon runner who USED to smoke. And the "user" taxes on cigarettes account for nearly half the cost, and those taxes do go to hospitals (and roads, schools, and anti-smoking ads).
Smokers dying early could also be argued as a good thing economically. They don't need to be in publically funded nursing homes as long. They stop drawing on CPP sooner. They don't go to the doctor for that extra 10 years for checkups. They open up job positions sooner for the unemployed.
Pack-a-day smokers die a day early for every week they've smoked. If I smoked that much, which I never have, I've knocked about 3 years off my life. 3 years at the end, you know, when everything starts to hurt, you start forgetting stuff, and your friends and loved ones are dying off around you. Something is going to kill you, so at least I might as well enjoy it.
Yes, smoking kills. That wasn't the question. If this was a gameshow, you'd lose.  | |
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Posted: 3/11/2007 11:26:01 AM | ok...I probably wouldn't date a smoker for many reasons....one of them being the smell......I am into a healthy lifestyle....it takes alot to get the smell of smoke out....and I just don't find it attractive....that is my choice...I wouldn't date someone who slaughtered cows, either....but that is another issue....If I met Antonio Banderas and he asked me out...and I saw him pick his nose and eat it...I wouldn't date him either.......because I don't find someone eating snot attractive.........
I NEVER said a smoker would be a bad parent...(where did I say that?)..... my mother smoked..yes....and now I get to watch her slowly die ......and I don't find that funny at all....FUNNY... you didn't answer the questions I posed to you...interesting....hmmm...
anyway...I think we may have argued this to death...we can now agree to disagree n'est pas? | |
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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/11/2007 3:00:32 PM | people who smoke and subject their children to second hand smoke are bad parents and anyone who thinks different is just not thinking. You do not endanger your kids so that you can satisfy your addiction, if you do you are an idiot and the children should be taken away until you grow a brain.
there is so much information out there that states that smoking is not healthy that the only ones defending it are "big tobacco" and those addicted to smoking it.
not choosing to date someone who smokes:
A) they STINK...their breath, hair, homes, cars, clothes.
B) they are addicts - JUNKIES by any other name.
C) their intelligence is questionable because how do you keep smoking when every package has a GREAT BIG HEALTH WARNING on them that pretty well says THIS WILL KILL YOU. | |
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Posted: 3/11/2007 5:00:59 PM | I actually can't say whether I would date a smoker or not, because I have never dated a smoker, it hasn't presented itself. I guess eventually I would get sick of the smell, and/or watching her damage herself.
I saw both my grandfather and my uncle (his son) die. Both were heavy smokers, and both died of... guess what? .... EXACTLY... lung cancer. Is that a coincidence? Not to me it isn't... and I am not going to go search for World Health Organization stats to convince myself that smoking can kill...
I saw this commercial yesterday that said "Smoking doesn't always kill"... meanwhile they were showing this country singer "singing" through a talk device, through his throat! So in many cases, smoking will either kill you or damage you somehow, some way, and I don't need stats to convince me of that.
If any of what I have posted here, makes me judgemental, so be it. But most likely, it is an issue YOU have to deal with, not me
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Posted: 3/11/2007 5:35:21 PM | HAHAHA !
I see so many jumping down any smokers throat who posts a reply in this forum.
Well sure I smoke and would date anyone no matter if they do or don't smoke.
But I will not date anyone who's way over weight .
Being too over weight will kill you faster then if you smoked a carton a day.
And yes they are now very worried that with in 10 years theres gonna be a flood of over weight adults& kids coming down with sugar diabeties . And that is gonna make smoking look like a one day bad habit . Last I saw on the tv was 1 in 3 canadains including everyone is too over weight .
There was a thing on chanel 13 last night saying the goverment is very worried that soon theres gonna be thousands flocking to hospitals because of being over weight.
So yes I'll take a smoker over a non smoker any day.
And no I don't agree that all none smokers smell pretty& fresh as the morning spring air !lol
So if smoking is gonna take a year off a smokers life for every pack they smoke then how many years is that ton of extra calories gonna take off you over weight non smokers !! LOL Yes I think the smoker is gonna still out live yeah !!
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Posted: 3/11/2007 6:11:47 PM | I went to the WHO website and yep...they have a bunch of stuff about smoking...
http://www.wpro.who.int/media_centre/fact_sheets/fs_20060530.htm
http://www.wpro.who.int/media_centre/fact_sheets/fs_20020528.htm
just FYI.......
I agree about the obesity epidemic...it is scary..... | |
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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/12/2007 9:36:49 AM | "I went to the WHO website and yep...they have a bunch of stuff about smoking..."
Did the site mention who you should be dating, if not a smoker? :-) It doesn't mention how to prevent death. oh well
The CIA World Factbook (last updated on 8 March, 2007)
- World Population: 6,525,170,264 (July 2006 est.)
- Population growth rate: 1.14% (2006 est.)
- Birth rate: 20.05 births/1,000 population (2006 est.)
- Death rate: 8.67 deaths/1,000 population (2006 est.)
- Life expectancy at birth: total population: 64.77 years, male: 63.16 years, female: 66.47 years (2006 est.)
- Infant mortality rate: total: 48.87 deaths/1,000 live births, male: 50.98 deaths/1,000 live births, female: 46.65 deaths/1,000 live births (2006 est.) | |
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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/12/2007 11:14:10 AM | If Cigarettes didn't " smell " we wouldn't even be discussing this topic .  | |
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| Would you date a smoker?
Posted: 3/12/2007 12:41:05 PM | Deaths from obesity have been grossy exaggerated.
CHICAGO -- Being overweight is nowhere near as big a killer as the government thought, ranking No. 7 instead of No. 2 among the nation's leading preventable causes of death, according to a startling new calculation from the CDC.
Researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that packing on too many pounds accounts for 25,814 deaths a year in the United States. As recently as January, the CDC came up with an estimate 14 times higher: 365,000 deaths.
The new analysis found that obesity -- being extremely overweight -- is indisputably lethal. But like several recent smaller studies, it found that people who are modestly overweight actually have a lower risk of death than those of normal weight.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20050420/ai_n14591662
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People CHOOSE to smoke. Very few people choose to be overweight. (I say very few because there is that feeder/feedee fetish that some have but they are a very small minority) | |
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