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| Sent Messages not showing up in Sent Messages/Outbox
Posted: 10/29/2008 3:07:30 PM | What's happening is messages appear to be going through but when I go to "sent messages" they just sit there as "unread" for days or weeks. And no, it's not that the recipients can't be bothered to read them.
Recipient's Inbox is the same as your Sent Msg/Outbox, its been coded that Way.
If it says "Unread" its "Unread". And yes, that sure sounds like User Error.
I can't imagine she suddenly would decide to not read an email I sent her.
Again, I still can't imagine this woman not at least opening or deleting my email.
People routinely delete other People's Mails and then claim they never received them, as a Means of shoving someone off. Some even E-Mail Block others to make the Messages disappear from the Sender's Outbox, then say they never got them.
Thus I can't answer for other People's Motives, as some People like to play Games with others.
Understood, but the last email I sent only said something to the effect of "are you getting any of my emails?"
E-Mail me the exact Message you are sending as well as the Recipient's User Name for some Checks/Testing.
Also, delete your Cookies and Temporary Internet Files and then try again. Make sure your Cookies are enabled too.
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 11/1/2008 11:20:53 PM | | I think it's a little ridiculous, how many specifications there are for not having a message sent. Sometimes a person takes the time to write a good msg and can't rewrite it the same way and then it's lost because of this. I understand it's a free site and I'm sure that this would be your rebuddle but look at how many pages this thread is. It's obviously to strict. I wasn't able to send because I had the word **** in my message (and no. I was not calling a girl a ****) I said, "Man that's a ****." After removing this word it sent my message. I think that's a little hypocritical to have function wise when you have an emoticon (a smiley) that says "shit happens." Whatever though that is just my opinion. | |
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 11/2/2008 1:09:20 AM | I'm one of those people who write alot of people but find rather annoying that the message doesnt go through so i have to try re-wording it to see if it will go through.
Also annoying is how some people dont want certain things from the site which is fine but when someone else has the same exact wants from the site and i send them a message it goes through.
I also find it lame how women block someone when your just sending a message introducing yourself they block you or they read and delete your message. I might be the 1% who actually write back to everyone. I dont really care what you look like or what you do for a living or anything like that. I just care to be treated with respect and i will write back to you. But ive gotten some rude messages from women which i of course block.
But ya as the other person said this site has too many restrictions.
I do love the site and all the crazy people in it but maybe change somethings around? | |
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 11/2/2008 7:59:26 AM |
I think it's a little ridiculous, how many specifications there are for not having a message sent.
I understand it's a free site and I'm sure that this would be your rebuddle
the "rebuttal" that it's a free site, is because one of the pitfalls of having a free site is that it attracts spammers (no cost) and that is why the site has these stricter measures - I think I may have received tops, maybe 2 or 3 in the time I've been here ... which I think is pretty damn good ...
As for censoring words, the site coding cannot tell what context you use any given word in - hence, if it's a questionable word that may be offensive to some on a first contact message, it won't send - see Message 2.
Also annoying is how some people dont want certain things from the site which is fine but when someone else has the same exact wants from the site and i send them a message it goes through.
Check their contact restrictions on their profile.
I also find it lame how women block someone when your just sending a message introducing yourself they block you or they read and delete your message. I might be the 1% who actually write back to everyone. I dont really care what you look like or what you do for a living or anything like that. I just care to be treated with respect and i will write back to you. But ive gotten some rude messages from women which i of course block.
Let's no go down that worn beaten down path - if they're not interested, they're not interested, simple as that. No one is forced to reply to anyone, because if that were the case, some would be spending all their time writing cutsie little rejection letters to appease fragile egos , or having to spend the better part of an evening going back and forth in some protracted email exchange explaining to someone why they "ain't it" - just move on.
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 11/2/2008 12:56:06 PM |
the "rebuttal" that it's a free site, is because one of the pitfalls of having a free site is that it attracts spammers (no cost) and that is why the site has these stricter measures - I think I may have received tops, maybe 2 or 3 in the time I've been here ... which I think is pretty damn good ...
As for censoring words, the site coding cannot tell what context you use any given word in - hence, if it's a questionable word that may be offensive to some on a first contact message, it won't send - see Message 2.
Thank you so much for correcting my English... you're so awesome.
Still you can say things like ***hole and douche etc... and nothing. The point I was making is that it does not censor words which can be used in the a number of ways, while it censors others that are just as equal in offensive magnitude or less than.
If someone uses foul language and they are reported then obviously their account can be deleted right? Otherwise we're all grown adults and if we don't appreciate certain language I think we can specify that to the person(s) contacting us can we not? As always we do appreciate the free service, ( although it does make it's money through ad revenue.) but an existing service can always be improved is all I'm saying. Once again this thread is getting ready to hit 13 pages. This apparently is an issue for many users.
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 11/2/2008 12:58:54 PM | Really though thank you for correcting my English, it wasn't sarcasm. It's important that I learn which words I misspell and correct them through repetition. So please don't misunderstand the connotation.  | |
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/17/2008 7:05:55 AM | (lets see if my reply gets posted, since all my forum posts are blocked too)
Seems we have enough people saying this is a bug, why can't this be gotten looked into more... because surely its a bug with so many people reporting it... Ive tried to contact admin, post on forum, etc, but 90% of the time, THOSE emails/posts don't go through too... I think i finally finally found a contact link long time ago to contact admin through email, that was months ago, no reply so far on this issue.
(btw love wow I'm also reading page "13 of 12" in this thread, another small bug) | |
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/18/2008 7:39:01 PM | Ok again just happen to see my friend online... I again tried to write her... same problem
remember as I said, she's new, has no flags etc... so it said it sent, it didnt, she said she didnt get (chatting with her in IM testing this) and so told her to write me... she did, I got that... I replied and that one now looks like it works...
So again... there is some type of bug... please fix... there are quite a few Id love to write to, but they simply dont get my messages... and I know how some of you gals wont write a guy until they write you, so we have a problem with this picture haha...
Still no response from the admin? | |
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/18/2008 8:21:30 PM |
trappedonbayst: .........
Let's no go down that worn beaten down path - if they're not interested, they're not interested, simple as that. No one is forced to reply to anyone, because if that were the case, some would be spending all their time writing cutsie little rejection letters to appease fragile egos , or having to spend the better part of an evening going back and forth in some protracted email exchange explaining to someone why they "ain't it" - just move on.
The owner should add a new feature. Whenever a woman reads and deletes an email without replying the site automatically sends a form letter reply to the man saying......."She is not interested in you, please move along. Do not write this woman again for at least a week. Do not write this woman more than one more time. Do not make an OP on the forums complaining about your lack of response from this woman. Just get over her, she is not interested. If you fail to follow these rules we will dock you 1000 gift points. Have a nice day :-)" | |
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/18/2008 9:11:59 PM | Ya I know what you mean hbsteve88 cause i once waited like 2 days and didnt contact any women. So i thought wow there is a woman on this site i have alot of interest with and of course i sent my message. Looked over in the sent messages and it didnt exist. I know i waited 2 days and didnt send any message to any woman. She had no requirements so im wondering what went wrong there?
I also contact women who view me just in case they were too busy to write to me cause they of course must get tons of messages and dont have time to write to everyone.
Anyways i'm still threading along on this site. | |
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/19/2008 8:29:32 AM |
(lets see if my reply gets posted, since all my forum posts are blocked too)
Well seeing as you've started multiple threads in the past, with the same subject, and no acknowledgement of having gone through each of the following points, one by one, it's no wonder.
Once again, from Ticketoride's post #2 - Go through them, one by one
as I said, she's new, has no flags etc...
Providing that you haven't tripped any of the above listed email filters or the user's contact restrictions (pay particular attention to how the The IE Filter works, because it is not a visible restriction on the profile, the following harmless Latin phrase should go through.
Suggestion: - Try sending the following when you find a first time message won't go through, providing the The IE Filter hasn't nailed you and you've met all their contact restrictions.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
If the above goes through, then your prior email tripped one of the spam/scam email filters. If the above also didn't go through, then you've tripped a contact restriction - end of the line.
Add to the fact from what you've said:
I again tried to write her... same problem
remember as I said, she's new, has no flags etc... so it said it sent, it didnt, she said she didnt get (chatting with her in IM testing this) and so told her to write me... she did, I got that... I replied and that one now looks like it works...
... and by reading the following Special Note in the following thread regarding contact restrictions being lifted:
What if I can't email them, but they can email me?
... it's plain as day that you've tripped up - end of story.
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/19/2008 8:43:48 AM | Add to the fact from what you've said:
I again tried to write her... same problem
remember as I said, she's new, has no flags etc... so it said it sent, it didnt, she said she didnt get (chatting with her in IM testing this) and so told her to write me... she did, I got that... I replied and that one now looks like it works...
... and by reading the following Special Note in the following thread regarding contact restrictions being lifted:
What if I can't email them, but they can email me?
... it's plain as day that you've tripped up - end of story.
I was thinking the same thing, once she emailed him whatever filter/mail setting that was blocking him was voided. In any event, not a bug, simply how the site is designed to work.
Why am I all of sudden getting visions of “Hollywood Squares” in my head….I’ll take Ticket to block, please. | |
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| Sent messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/20/2008 4:57:53 PM | (ok again with the Page 15 of 12 error too btw)
Ok, thought i made it very clear.... and yes I've gone step my step thru the it must be this or this or that... its not, period... My friend joined, she has no filters, no nothing... saw her soon as she signed up to welcome her, couldn't do... ok, BUG
Another bug, DONT say EMAIL SENT if it wasn't sent.... BUG
Ok the ie filter/restrictive filters etc... these TELL you that you cant write the people, when you try to...that's not it...
If a message is being flagged and not able to send due to one of those, it should tell you, and which it does from what I've noticed if you are out of their age range, or distance or whatever... so as far as i can tell thats working... even though it would be nicer to still say the reasoning, not simply say you cant write them. Another site that I use tells you before hand if your email will basically be allowed or not before you attempt.. Nice and clean not a whole system of cryptic hidden flags that apparently is making finding this bug difficult to the admin.
I'm sure many of us with this problem can let the admin know who we are trying to contact so he can look into why they are not going through.
What still bugs me is the "Moderators" here that simple think every problem is the users fault. I'm a web developer myself and beta test for many software companies, and quite good at finding bugs if I say so myself. So far from the postings seems a endless loop of read this post, that post says read this post, that one says read another post... How about helpful service and simple respond to my post - closing a thread with a solution not given, and the reporter acknowledging that it fixed their problem... thats what moderators jobs are about. A searchable FAQ section needs to be put in place not making the user read 20 different postings with 30 pages of responses each to find the simple answer to their question. These are common place on most sites now and reduce the strain on the support department by displaying common solutions to each problem... and ability to make a support ticket if they were not answered - support tickets are also nice because the reporter can close the ticket when the problem is resolved. This is also a good way for developers to see multiple people with similar tickets open to find their problems... get their browser info, what they were doing, etc
Note: Not complaining, I realize this is a free site, just trying to offer constructive suggestions and notice of bugs in the system. Using my experience as a web developer and trouble seeking, to help further the site. | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/20/2008 5:13:13 PM |
E-Mail Messages not showing up in the Sent Msg/Outbox Area?
More than (4) Four duplicate E-Mails sent per Day.
Nope
More than (40) Forty 'First Contact' E-Mails per Day.
Nope
Your E-Mail is too long, exceeding approx. 7,800 Characters
Nope
Do not use the ---> @ Symbol, non-resolvable Character Encodings, Unicode, Chinese or anything else the System Filter does not recognize in your Message.
No other characters used
You have not only composed and copied the Body of your ASCII (Plain Text) Message from your Text Editor into your E-Mail Message, but also your Text Editor's unrecognized, non-standard Formatting, Document Markup Languages or Control Characters. Use another Editor or don't use/turn off its formatting Functions.
Nope
Do not send HTML Links, Java Code or E-Mail Addresses.
None sent
Do not enter any Telephone Numbers, or anything else that the Spam Filter may construe as a Telephone Number. Do not use more than 6 Numbers together such as Dates (1998-2003) even if separated by Spaces, Dashes, Periods, Parenthesis, Commas, etc.
No numbers used
Do not use Banking Terms, such as "Account", "Bank", "Transfer", Profanities, the Names of Hosting Sites, Names of certain blocked Countries such as Nigeria, India, Russia, or anything else that could reasonably be expected to catch the Eye of the Site's Spam/Scam Filters.
Nope
Some Messages which contain any illegal Material or Activities such as "Drugs", "Rape", "Murder", etc. may be blocked.
Nope
That User has other Contact Restrictions per their Mail Settings
Nope, had no restrictions whatsoever
You have a Mail Settings Restriction such as | Dating | and have e-mailed another User with the very same Restriction, or other such Mail Setting Conflict. You cannot block that in your Mail Settings what is also indicated in the Looking For Field in your Edit Profile
No, only filter I have is to be female, and not do drugs. Which all pass those requirements
You, or the intended E-Mail Recipient, or both have a missing or incorrect
Postal Code Profile Entry, esp. a "75 Mile" Contact Restriction Limit in
either's Mail Settings.
No , all local and cant see many people typing in a incorrect zip code
You inadvertently edited the Recipients To: Field instead of the Subject Line and fired your E-Mail/Reply off to a Non-Existent User/E-Mail Address, or to a User who had deleted his Profile.
No
You have made Reply to an existing E-Mail in your Inbox, but changed
the Recipient in the To: Field of a User who has his/her Profile hidden,
and does not have you on his/her Favourites List. Since Mail Settings are hidden from View, Contact Restrictions can not be determined.
No
The Mail Recipient has made certain fundamental Changes to his/her Profile such as Change of User Name or Mail Settings but has not yet E-Mail Logged out, reflecting the Update.
Nope
The Site's Contact Filter has blocked you from e-mailing anyone who
has set their Mail Settings to block those who have previously messaged
others for Sex or Intimate Encounters.
Nope
That User E-Mail Blocked you subsequent to receipt of your Message, consequently your 'Sent Mail' disappeared from your Sent Msg/Outbox Folder. If that User then unblocked you, and you e-mailed again, the same Sequence could re-occur.
No, its instantaneous and says sent, but does not show in sent mail.
Your Browser's Options/Preferences are incorrect, Securities set to high, Cookies corrupt, Firewall Blocks, etc.
Default browser securities
Another User has not E-Mail Logged out of their Plentyoffish Account from the same Computer using the same Browser, but you have E-Mail Logged into your Account sending E-Mails.
??? Speak english
Your Browser's User Agent is concealed, corrupt or indicates the Presence of Malware, Trojan or Viral Infection.
No, clean system
A User's Profile was deleted, but not the actual User Account, resulting from massive Errors generated by a User trying to rig the Voting System utilizing automated Bots or other similar Types of Abuses.
Nope
That User's Profile may have been deleted.
Nope
User/Execution Error.
???no errors displayed, happens to many users
It is also possible there may yet be other Filters in Place the Admin never
made mention of, such as a high Percentage of E-Mail blocks and
Contact-to-Complaint Ratios, etc.
Nope, Unless admin has a not let user contact good looking in range people with no filters filter...
If you feel this Site has a serious Glitch, click here to Investigate Now !!!
Another, um look at this post, and then look at another post circle...No help there either | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/20/2008 6:07:46 PM | What still bugs me is the "Moderators" here that simple think every problem is the users fault.
Irrelevant what we think. What has been presented is what is known to block Mails.
How about helpful service and simple respond to my post - closing a thread with a solution not given, and the reporter acknowledging that it fixed their problem...
I don't care what your Problem is, redundant Threads are not an Option, when this Thread was here long before that.
A searchable FAQ section needs to be put in place not making the user read 20 different postings with 30 pages of responses each to find the simple answer to their question.
Then consult the Help Section that Admin has written up for you.
These are common place on most sites now and reduce the strain on the support department by displaying common solutions to each problem... and ability to make a support ticket if they were not answered - support tickets are also nice because the reporter can close the ticket when the problem is resolved.
Try Here »» Plentyoffish: Help Forms
No, all local and cant see many people typing in a incorrect zip code
You can't see? That's the Point exactly.
??? Speak english
Re-read. Repeat as necessary.
???no errors displayed, happens to many users
Unfortunately the Admin has coded little in the Way of Display Errors.
Nope, Unless admin has a not let user contact good looking in range people with no filters filter...
Then you'll have to e-mail him.
Another, um look at this post, and then look at another post circle...No help there either
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/23/2008 3:33:20 AM | | sounds fishy to me. I think its done on purpose to keep likely matches from matching up so they have to stay here.
either that, or, she doesnt like me and this is the easy way they do things around here. whatever the case, if you cant even send email maybe they should focus on that and lose these useless forums that answer no one nohow.
seasons greetings. | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/23/2008 5:34:02 AM | | ^^^^^ I don't believe there would be very many matches for someone with "Prefer not to say" on the majority of their profile. Maybe people should focus on filling out their profile in order to actually be able to message those that would be of interest to them. Now that would be a concept. | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/23/2008 5:35:07 AM | This is a pet peeve of mine too....and of course judging by the length of this thread....a pet peeve of others as well. Leaving people in "Limbo" about their messages, then making us read the "declaraction of Independence" of rules and restrictions as to why our message is not being or being sent.
And someone THEN has t o explain the explanation because there's so much to read it's not even worth it to even try to figure it out.
POF needs to keep things simple...I am suprised why so much unecessary work is put into a FREE dating site? 
I kind of did what HB STeve above did.....but only got half-way through what he listed....and gave up. LOL
Kudoes for HB Steves rebutting or (refuting?) what he listed....looks like he tried and followed the rules...and still got dinged for it.
POF has an "Answer for everything", but of course HB Steve did as well. lol
Another bug, DONT say EMAIL SENT if it wasn't sent.... BUG
Exactly, this site seems to have a common denominator. When a user makes an action, there's no "status" or accurate status of what occured. And we're lefting scratching our heads, a great mystery.
We waste our times typing up emails only to find out it never went through. Again, why make so much work out of a free dating site? | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/23/2008 6:14:27 AM | What some people don't understand is that there isn't much work in using the site, the people making you work as it were are the members. They put the filters in play, they set their mail settings not the Mods, not the Admin or the site, the site/Admin just makes those filters and settings available if members wish to use them.
Another one of the answers that I think gets overlooked is that there are some instances when you will not get a reason, there won’t be a message that says “You can’t contact this user because…..” so that they can’t be circumvented. One of the most common occurrences of one with no direct “message” is someone that has been flagged by the “intimate encounter” filter. Just as with the “sent message not in sent box” issue a majority of those flagged try to use every excuse in the book as to how unfairly they were “branded”, hog wash that filter works great that is the only ‘problem” with it.
The bottom line answer is if your email isn’t sent move on to another profile. Maybe it is just me but I have no problem understanding that simple concept.
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Another bug, DONT say EMAIL SENT if it wasn't sent.... BUG
Exactly, this site seems to have a common denominator. When a user makes an action, there's no "status" or accurate status of what occured. And we're lefting scratching our heads, a great mystery.
It was sent………it was then blocked…….. which makes it disappear……and as mentioned sometimes you won’t get a “status” report…….so that you can’t quickly change something in order to email the person that didn’t want to hear from you in the first place.
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/23/2008 6:23:45 AM | The bottom line answer is if your email isn’t sent move on to another profile. Maybe it is just me but I have no problem understanding that simple concept.
Well...you're in the minority then. because alot of people take issue about it. And as far as no reason being given or "status" as to what happened, I think we should be given that much. And we're not asking for much either.
so that you can’t quickly change something in order to email the person that didn’t want to hear from you in the first place.
So emails that are BLOCKED disappear from the "Sent" area? Here's an idea, how about we get a "this message was blocked"! or something.
It was sent………it was then blocked…….. which makes it disappear
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/23/2008 6:49:45 AM |
Well...you're in the minority then. because alot of people take issue about it.
Yes, I know. Then again just as written in message 2 on this very thread I see the following…
That User has other Contact Restrictions per their Mail Settings
This would be something not shown on the profile and possibly not something that would provoke a “status report” to stop someone from getting around it.
As well as …..
It is also possible there may yet be other Filters in Place the Admin never
made mention of, such as a high Percentage of E-Mail blocks and
Contact-to-Complaint Ratios, etc.
Simply, you may never know even the Mods don’t know for sure.
So emails that are BLOCKED disappear from the "Sent" area? Here's an idea, how about we get a "this message was blocked"! or something.
What part of not revealing it so it can’t be “circumvented” in some way is hazy????
And you KNOW this.....how?
Well, doesn’t it stand to reason if you hit send, got no “block” message and you look at the sent box and it’s not there……..it didn’t go to the other person and it disappeared……..it’s not there, right??? I am only going by what you and the others say……you say you wrote and sent, (taking your word for it now) hopefully you did hit the send button that’s usually standard. Then you look at your sent box to see if it was read, unread, deleted or not and it isn’t even there. Doesn’t “disappear “ mean something’s not there??? I know I m blond, but….. | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/23/2008 7:06:15 AM |
Doesn’t “disappear “ mean something’s not there???
Just look at HD' Steves post....he'd debugged it and exhausted all possiblities.
If it disappears, to the UKNOWING user it means its BROKE. lol Common sense would depict that if you sent an email,and if it doesn't even APPEAR there , that it doesn't mean it's been blocked...he/she is still left scratching their heads as to why it's not there.
So they'll re-compose yet the same email to send it again....stilll isnt there...as far as THEY are concerned, it was NEVER sent and not even received by the recipient. Thus, broke.
It is also possible there may yet be other Filters in Place the Admin never
made mention of
IF it wasn't mentioned, it means it is not true or hasn't happened. | |
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