| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/23/2008 8:29:13 AM | As in "done about it" you mean you want the system to "disregard" the filters/settings it has available for people to use in order to keep what they feel is "undesirable" out of their inbox? You want the system to allow those mailers to be able to know why in every instance so they can "get around “ those filters/settings thus making the filters/settings completely useless to those that wish to use them.
See to me it sounds as if the site/Admin has already done something about it, you just don’t like being one of the ones that’s being kept out of certain people’s inbox so the problem has to be the site functions. Again, seems to me it is working pretty well and is performing the function as designed. | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/23/2008 8:35:31 AM |
sounds fishy to me. I think its done on purpose to keep likely matches from matching up so they have to stay here.
Another astute deduction from the bottomless hat of reasoning.
either that, or, she doesnt like me and this is the easy way they do things around here. whatever the case, if you cant even send email maybe they should focus on that and lose these useless forums that answer no one nohow. seasons greetings
Focus on creating a "Prefer To Say" profile rather than a quagmire of unknowns that will render any emails unread, let alone not sent. Go here Profile Reviews Forum.
Just look at HD' Steves post....he'd debugged it and exhausted all possiblities.
Sorry to burst the bubble on that exhaustive debugging, but there were ample areas that could not be corroborated:
- the fact that his profile had been here for 4 years, hence no doubt fell prey to the IE filter. In the past there have been enough people swearing up and down on a stack of bibles that they never contacted IE seekers, and Admin has had to come in to check and sure enough, were fibbing on that stack, or simply didn't realize, consequently the time wasting of checking, since he's the only who can has been abandoned.
IF it wasn't mentioned, it means it is not true or hasn't happened.
- An unknown filter exists that is of proprietary knowledge, hasn't even been divulged to us that goes hand in hand with the IE filter. Simply because it isn't mentioned, doesn't mean it's not there, no point in giving more food for thought as to how to circumvent another filter.
- the fact that she was relatively new on the site, contacted him and the message went through, hence finally eliminating what was tripping him up, lends credence to the fact that his messages were suspect
- an unwillingness to try my suggestion as to message content, or at least report on it working
Kudoes for HB Steves rebutting or (refuting?) what he listed....looks like he tried and followed the rules...and still got dinged for it.
trolling a thread doesn't earn any Kudos, when one argues through their hat and doesn't address some salient points.
I kind of did what HB STeve above did.....but only got half-way through what he listed....and gave up. LOL
Then what's the point of this protracted debate when you haven't even gone through the list?
If you come across a profile who has no visible contact restrictions, and you can swear on whatever may smite you down that if you lie regarding contacting any IE Seekers, then take my Suggestion bolded in blue.
I'll say it one more time, the facts presented in Post #2 are it, as we know it.
Well, I GET it....but I just think something needs to be done about it.
Getting it or not, email the Admin
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 12/31/2008 3:24:19 PM | | So, I was having this problem and discovered that it wouldn't send because I used the word sex. I was actually quoting something when using it so it was totally innocent but once I removed that word, the message went. | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 1/3/2009 9:57:09 PM | Moderator asked me to move this topic to this thread
I have read through the "POF MAIL: First contact messages - won't send" and several other of the links identified above and can not come up with any discernible reason why some emails won't send and others will.
In a specific case, I emailed to another member (who's profile is still active) the following...
I have to ask...how the heck did you come across my profile? Are you temporarily hanging out in Chicago and happened to see me roll by at the top of the screen?
Her only restrictions were the basic "Must not be looking for Intimate Encounter" line and the "Must not be looking for Other Relationship" lines.
This was the first email sent today, but I have multiple different people to whom an email will not show up in the SENT listings.
This is a sporadic problem in if it does work for someone, I never have a problem with it again for that person, but if it doesn't it does not matter what I do.
I can also rule out the vast majority of virus and malware concerns as this is coming from a Mac.
It is also being hand-keyed, no copy and paste...not special symbols.
It's very frustrating to be on a site such as this and not be able to send an email for a reason that is visible. For example, if the person had "Must not have messaged others looking for sex" (or whatever that one entry is) and that had happened in the past, then yeah, it makes sense.
But still, doesn't the filter mechanism tell you when it is not gone to accept the email to send it? | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 1/3/2009 10:02:11 PM |
But still, doesn't the filter mechanism tell you when it is not gone to accept the email to send it?
Not always.
If you can't find the specific reason after looking at all the "possible" reasons listed in the help section just chalk it up to you can't contact this person move onto another profile. | |
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| Sent Messages not showing up in Sent Messages/Outbox
Posted: 1/24/2009 8:34:41 AM | Hi there,
I've just started having problems with messages not appearing in my "Sent" folder. This happened to me twice today and I can't figure out why.
The people I emailed have no restrictions in place, apart of the obvious ones (no intimate encounters, must have picture, etc.) and I went through the list in FAQ but couldn't find a reason.
The messages I sent were completely different to each other, so that definitely can't be it.
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| Sent Messages not showing up in Sent Messages/Outbox
Posted: 1/24/2009 8:43:02 AM |
I've just started having problems with messages not appearing in my "Sent" folder. This happened to me twice today and I can't figure out why.
If you've read POST # 2 of this thread and validated each and every point, one by one, and still cannot figure it out ...
... then read POST # 287 and try the noted Suggestion to help you solve the problem further.
... other than that, contact Admin.
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| Sent Messages not showing up in Sent Messages/Outbox
Posted: 1/26/2009 7:14:33 PM | | i have another question every time i send a message. i check the sent msg box n see that the reciever has already read it .....but i wont recieve their reply untill 2 days later this happens every single time that a i send and recieve msges !! IS it mandatory that the message has to take 2 days for it to arrive ? or is there something wrong with my profile or maybe just plain coincidence........? | |
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| Sent Messages not showing up in Sent Messages/Outbox
Posted: 1/27/2009 5:28:50 AM | there is something wrong for sure.....my brother sends messages, they come up as sent but never 'get opened ' because the never make it to there destination. It is the same whether he is making 'first contact' and even if he is replying to someone whom has made first contact to him......heck he can't even reply to my messages when we tried that.
could it be an issue with:
wi-fi? he recently started using one of those wireless internet sticks with his laptop
MAC - could it be an issue with mac?....he has tried both through safari and other browsers with not luck.
his profile is 'clean' - and none of the obvious issues posted throughout this thread apply.
Everything was fine sometime ago - he closed one account and a couple months later opened another - with the same computer ...and this is when the problems started - he has tried closing and starting another profile with no luck. very frustrating......
his name here is IVY999
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| Sent Messages not showing up in Sent Messages/Outbox
Posted: 1/27/2009 1:29:03 PM | | yea i get the same thing too....ive been thinking that this flaws in the system are wat makes plent of fish get so many hits on the web and wat ultimatly gets him a bigger paycheck.....cus if it wasnt for my messeging problems i probably wudnt log in so much....i may be wrong tho......i hope my account doesnt get deleted cus i wrote this!!!.......lol | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 4/16/2009 3:06:41 PM | | This is an incredibly stupid idea. I can't contact anyone!!! I have checked all the possible reasons in this thread and others and have found no reason messages can't come through. If I just have "chalk it up to you can't contact this person move onto another profile" I will just have to move onto another site. Clearly, there is a major problem here and the admins saying "that's the way it's supposed to work", doesn't help one bit. I'm tired of spending 15 minutes writing up a thoughtful message directed specifically at the person I'm contacting only to get a message sent page and the message never sends. This is ridiculous and it needs to be fixed. Those of you who aren't having this problem can continue sitting around saying oh well you probably don't match their filters, well when filters start stopping a large number of messages that shouldn't be filtered, they filters need fixing. I would much rather receive a spam here or there than to not be able to contact anyone. | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 4/21/2009 3:19:27 AM | | Coming from a technical saavy stance, its a wonderful idea to have some filtering. Now the problem becomes all of those non-tech people that aren't paying attention.. which we all know there's plenty of us out there (I do it at times). Why would a site deploy a filter to deceive a true human sitting a keyboard? That's a problem, and I'm tempted now to start making my own notions of what plentyoffish is deploying, as its not this openly-free dating website that its claiming to be by having content restrictions embedded into the background without telling anyone. I realize some level of filtering needs to be in place, but if its not working right, don't have it. Programming is what I do, if the techs here need some more assistance to undo the mess at hand to more rationalize things, please drop me a message, as this method isn't working. Yes, I've contacted people denoted as IE (some people denoted IE aren't looking for sex! Did I say that too loud? Let me rephrase, some people genuinely think IE is actually a true notion of feeling, but I guess that's beyond the scope of what the site denoted it as). I've contacted plenty of people after contacting people denoted as IE, and I'm having my first contacts constrainted more? That's plain stupid, it needs to be changed. I'm truly disgusted at this point. | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 4/27/2009 9:20:29 PM | Any chance you'd consider a "preview" feature? It'd be nice to know why the message I spent about 50 minutes typing didn't get sent when I hit send. I'm fairly sure it was profanity - alternately, is there any way i can get the draft back to fix whatever the problem is myself?
I accept the rules and am fine with them, just didn't think I'd have a problem after the spell checker gave the all clear. Thanks in advance for any help. | |
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| Sending messages but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 5/27/2009 5:13:17 PM | I agree. I just tried to send a message three times only to eventually figure out that "cockatiel" (a type of bird, small member of the parrot family of which I currently have five - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatiel ) is what was triggering the filter.
I understand the desire to limit potentially offensive messages and spam, but there is no indication on the composition page there is any filtering going on, what triggers it, how much text I have entered into the box re: size restrictions, nothing indicating, or even hinting what might cause a message to not send. First I thought it was the Umlaut in Schrödinger (the name of on of my birds, an African Grey), or the length of the message. When I realize it didn't really send, there was A) no way for me to retrieve that draft (which I spent a considerable amount of time composing in great detail) and edit it to meet requirements, nor did it occur to me that because of the letters it begins with, the name of the species "cockatiel" would be what actually triggered the filter that is not even mentioned on the composition page. Not until I started digging through these forums to see why my message never appeared as "sent" did I discover the background filtering. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2009 6:38:20 PM | ^^^ The reason a lot of the filters are in place is to protect from spammers and scammers as well profanity etc...
And if they highlighted the things that were going to trigger the filter for you while your composing the message then the filter would be worthless wouldnt it? The goal is to block all those people so that they dont know they were blocked and dont know how to defeat the filter.
I know its frustrating at times but what your asking would allow all the people POF is trying to protect you from a way around the block also.
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| FAQ - Emails/Messages - Sent but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 6/8/2009 8:37:45 AM | | im very angry.why oh why are my messages not being sent.i upgraded and thought that would help.help nothing so why upgrade when i cant send or seceive messages.and im not receiving.i want to know what benefits you get when you upgrade none as far as i cabn see.infact its worse than before i upgraded i just think it a rip off of ppls hard earned cash.i can assure when my contact for my updrade has ended i wont be back on this site.other sites you pay are far far superior to this site. if you knew the IM was going to cease you could have placed it with siome other way of contacting ppl.as it stand at the moment iys total rubbish to say the least.mick 259 | |
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| FAQ - Emails/Messages - Sent but not showing up in the sent message area
Posted: 6/8/2009 11:21:32 AM |
im very angry.why oh why are my messages not being sent.i upgraded and thought that would help.help nothing so why upgrade when i cant send or seceive messages.and im not receiving.
Since when was there an implication that by upgrading, it allows you to circumvent spam and scam filters, or allows you to circumvent other people's choices to not receive mail from other users who do not meet their criteria ?
Did you not read the UPGADE PAGE ??? before you assumed what you would get?
If some of your emails do not register as sent, read POST #2 of this thread carefully.
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