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 69_dude

Joined: 10/30/2006
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Posted: 7/4/2008 12:21:31 PM
exactly...
I agree the number should not matter... as long as it is not Gene Simmons numbers...
Personally I do not like asking that quesiton and do not like answering...
more than 10 less than 1000 is all I need to know....LOL
 m_church

Joined: 11/8/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2008 3:42:49 PM

I cant imagine why their past would be an issue unless the issue isnt their past at all, it is a problem "measuring up"

Well, for a start, their past can be a problem if they has issues or baggage from it.
A woman can have had a very very promiscuous past, but now regret it so much that she isn't at all comfortable in the bedroom. If she feels like she's been 'used' in the past, she may actually hate sex. It's all up to the situation. I'd rather have a willing learner who wants to know how to please me, than some woman with baggage who knows how to please the football team.
 Jeff_21740

Joined: 6/26/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2008 3:49:00 PM

Well, for a start, their past can be a problem if they has issues or baggage from it


Well at that point wouldnt you be judging her on her baggage and not her past lovers? It really isnt one in the same. Her baggage is her negative experiences with past lovers not just the pure number of lovers she has had... food for thought.
BTW... girls who know how to please the entire football team are incredible! You should really try it.
 sireel

Joined: 4/13/2007
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Posted: 7/5/2008 12:19:27 AM
Isn't the answer to this question obvious? The more sexual partners one has had, the more difficult it is to actually bond and commit. While today we have the pill and more ppl choose not to have children or fewer, .... The fact is only women know for sure who their children are. Men must trust. Trust is earned through reputation. Its a primitive concern with its roots from a time when family was everything. That is a definition of family that included fathers in their traditional role. It's all really very passe and obsolete now though, because it's no longer a practical concern. Or so I've been told by most women these days lol.
 midnight_crossing

Joined: 5/19/2008
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Posted: 7/5/2008 12:29:27 AM
This is just one of those questions that shouldn't be asked. If its too low, people lie. If its too high, people lie. So unless you want to hear a lie, which I DON'T, then don't ask. If they are with you, why should it matter? As long as he/she is bringing some nasty STD in to the relationship, then it should not matter what the numbers are. That's my $0.02 anyway.
why do most men judge women by their number of past lovers?
Posted: 7/5/2008 12:49:11 AM
re the Opost

IMO what matters is a combination of quantity and quality as well as her attention to safety (STIs). The latter is the most important.
 David Lewis

Joined: 11/18/2007
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Posted: 7/5/2008 4:26:32 PM

sireel wrote: The fact is only women know for sure
who their children are. Men must trust.

With DNA testing, that may not necessarily be the case.
 wannabonk

Joined: 8/15/2006
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Posted: 7/5/2008 6:42:51 PM
STD's is the only thing I can think of against sleeping with so many people.
Captain condom comes to the rescue on that one.
 _Sharker524_

Joined: 6/19/2008
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Posted: 7/5/2008 6:48:45 PM
This thread is scary.

Why would someone NOT judge based on the number of past lovers?

While this is never a question I can see myself asking a woman for fear of the answer, I would NEVER want a woman insecure/just dumb enough to fall for the tricks of so-called-players. You can say you have "Needs", but that is bullshit. You have "Wants".

If a girl does not have a moral code that tells her not to give herself away like a free sample at a grocery store, I have no interest whatsoever. Maybe you will find a guy that is willing to forgive your mistakes, but I see the past as what it is. The past is the present. It is what -who you are- is built upon.

Not to mention I buy into that saying that tells you that when you sleep with someone, you are sleeping with every person they've ever slept with.

So yes, I will judge you, because you lack morals and a degree of self-respect that I value.
 MisterBigg

Joined: 6/23/2007
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Posted: 7/5/2008 6:51:59 PM

ok guys lets here it. why is it ok for guys to have gotten laid alot in the past by different women, but if we say we had some past lovers you think we are sluts., and not worthy for a relationship?


Me I prefer a woman who has experience. The more, the better. Its consistently been the case that the more experience a woman has in this department, the better the physical connection; Which, while not the most important factor, still matters.
 MisterBigg

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Posted: 7/5/2008 6:54:33 PM

So yes, I will judge you, because you lack morals and a degree of self-respect that I value.


I have to disagree. People's success with dating depends largely on luck. As a woman, you have no idea if the man you just met is a player, being dishonest, or is genuine. And things happen during life. People may have to move for a job. Or they fall out of love. Or they never fall in love.

My point is that people's success with dating can vary and as a result, some women may have to date a lot more men than others only as a result of being dealt many bad hands in a row (for whatever reason). Why shouldn't women pursue total fulfillment? I think that being prejudicial only because a woman may have had a few more partners than society considers "morally proper" is quite immature.
 MisterBigg

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Posted: 7/5/2008 6:59:04 PM

Isn't the answer to this question obvious? The more sexual partners one has had, the more difficult it is to actually bond and commit.


Fortunately, science has advanced sufficiently to the point that we are way past being able to debunk misconceptions such as this. Sexual behavior is not a one dimensional spectrum or even two dimensional, it is multi dimensional. Every person is different, and erotic tastes and behavior differ in vast proportion.

I don't think that generalizing the behavior of the entire world as you have done in any way presents an accurate picture of human sexual behavior.

Furthermore I must question whether you have cause and effect reversed. Is it the large number of partners that leads to bonding problems, or is it the bonding problem that leads to a large number of partners? Aren't there other factors that could lead to a large number partners? Methinks yes.
 _Sharker524_

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Posted: 7/5/2008 7:09:16 PM
I never said I minded a girl that's been on 500 dates. I just think that sex should never be a requirement on a date and should not be given to just any guy you don't even know. I don't see how Sex and Dating are even being referenced here as one in the same.

If you have been tricked once or twice, no big deal, but if you've been,"Tricked" twenty times, the only person tricking you is yourself.
 m_church

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Posted: 7/5/2008 7:32:33 PM

Its consistently been the case that the more experience a woman has in this department, the better the physical connection; Which, while not the most important factor, still matters.


Not always true. I've encountered women who have had a lot of experience but were turned off by it and are now either disinterested or jaded by it all.
And just because she knows how to get a guy off one way or a thousand ways, doesn't mean it will work with every guy.
And some of them perform almost mechanically in bed because it's all they know from their experiences...
A lot of one night stands won't teach a woman much... But a few LTR's can teach them everything...
 AnneCarol

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Posted: 7/6/2008 5:37:39 PM
Hi, I read your profile and wanted to ask you a couple of things but you have a filter on it that won't allow me to contact you because of the distance between us. Would you mind emailing me so I could ask you about some of those things in your profile? Thanks, Anne
 AnneCarol

Joined: 3/27/2008
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Posted: 7/6/2008 5:41:29 PM
I'm a serial dater. I dont sleep with every guy I go out with though. Who does? I was married a long time though and I enjoy dating and meeting new people. I wish we wouldn't judge each other at all. No one knows where you've been and what's happened to you throughout your lifetime that has brought you here to this place and time. Walk a few miles in my shoes and then let me know what you think...LOL-
 revoskeepnus

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Posted: 7/6/2008 6:32:56 PM
Guys probably want to know if you are a slut or not. Simple as that. But, chicks can always lie about the numbers (or try their best to remember but still forget a few as in my case)... IT DOES MATTER THOUGH. Morals, integrity, the value you place on sex/making love, IT ALL FILTERS IN TO THE EQUATION. Personally, I'd like to find a virgin boy I can train. About 14, white skin, blue eyes... Raise him right, train him right, work him to the bone... OK, I'm drunk, I confess. Bored to death, posting on forums... lol

Seriously though. People do change and there's no denying that. I figured out a long time ago that guys want sex, and they are not going to "love" you if you give it to them. I wish I'd never had it. Wouldn't know what I"m missing, lol. I got to go and find another forum... kind of rambling...
 lovesex73

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Posted: 7/7/2008 8:52:17 AM
I always ask how many people they have been with and if it's to many I say goodbye because if you been with to many you don't know what you want in life. Also when you have sex with someone you have sex with all of their past partners which people seem to forget. To many to me is more than 20 me myself I only been with 6 woman. To me you have to many partners your nothing but a whore that is my point of view and if people don't like that to bad. Some girls just like to have different partners just for the sake of saying oh I had this guy and this guy and so on or he was good looking and he had a big****and so on. So what girls your plain stupid when you get a good guy keep him don't go for looks because looks mean nothing at all which girls seem to forget it is what is in the inside what really counts.
 lovesex73

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Posted: 7/7/2008 9:08:08 AM
Most of these girls that sleep with all kinds of guys also don't even know the real father of their children which is sad also this tells something about these girls which means slut. Keep your legs shut at least which is possible or just do oral which is also alot safer also than intercourse itself.
 imablast

Joined: 3/20/2008
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Posted: 7/7/2008 9:28:35 AM
Here's the answer I give the ladies that ask me how many women I have slept with.
"I don't live in the past, next question" Everytime I say that I get good answer!
So it may work for yall also.
why do most men judge women by their number of past lovers?
Posted: 7/7/2008 1:32:28 PM
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Why do most men judge women by their number of past lovers?

IMO, it is certain women who have created the premises for such an approach by men: By arguing that for a woman to have sex with someone, she has to have a special connection or emotional bond, that a woman's body is in a way "more precious" than a man's, that men are "dogs", those women have convinced men that a woman's 1 lover "counts" the for 2 or 3 or 4 lovers that a man has had (ie 1 = 3 or 4). I do not believe in that stuff, I think that modern women are equally capable of hedonism and sex (not meaning ONSs) as men are thus the number of lovers counts the same for women as for men. That modern women are not cling-ons and approach sexuality in a different way than 50 years ago.
But IMO that is not the "implicit conviction" even in 2008. In short it is certain women who have set up this situation as described in the OP and it is women who need to dispell this "women approach sex differently than men myth".

All in moderation, of course, for both men and women Between being a born again virgin and sleeping with 30 or 50+ people a year, there is a "golden medium" that both women and men can be in, in 2008.

 _Sharker524_

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Posted: 7/7/2008 2:58:27 PM
annecarol,

Who were you requesting an email from?
 Enigma252

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Posted: 7/7/2008 7:29:06 PM
Well, if one or two of our previous lovers had stuck around and settled down we wouldn't be in the high numbers, right? So whose fault was that? Besides, from what I remember, virgins were no fun at all! I don't think that most women want a revolving door at their bedrooms--especially us older females. Of course, there are exceptions--rock n roll groupies.
 camellia ga

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Posted: 7/7/2008 8:40:47 PM
look guys would if they had the chance it's not my fault that I'm more attractive and charming then they are sorry guys. personally i'm just looking for onr good one but then again variety is the spice of life
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