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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/13/2008 10:49:36 PM | And years later we've got a great career, a home we own, and a good life - and a sense of independence and responsibility that you just can't get when Mommy & Daddy are there to foot the bill.
Maybe it's close-minded of me not to accept people who think it's okay to be an "adult" who doesn't have bills to pay, or doesn't have a place to call their own.
Seee...the problem here is the automatic assumption that an adult living with parents doesn't pay for shit... or has no responsibility....you know why there's such a war goin on in here? Because every person posting who lives with parents is actually financially responsible....and the "independent" people are assuming otherwise....
The actual deadbeats won't even come close to this thread because they know they can't contribute anything useful.... | |
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/14/2008 12:22:40 AM | somebody here actually understands. when i said handed opporitunities, i meant it. down here in the us you dont make good grades and then off to college. you still gotta figure out how to pay for it. if your parents make over a certain dollar amount you dont qualify for any of em. then if youre lucky, VERY lucky you get some scholarships. most dont amount to more than 5,000 a year. then you have the rest of tuition, books , a place to live food etc. college students dont make a whole lot more than minimum wage cause the employers know there are 100 kids looking for the same job. good luck trying to exist on that unless you wana have 4 roomates in a 1 bedroom apt.
notice how she still is saying that i have dinner layed down in front of me every night when i stated in my last post i cook dinner when im home and when im not i dont eat dinner here, or late at night when i'll make something myself.
hmm i also said i dont wana be here and cant wait to leave, its just financially impossible here, unless you work 2 full time jobs.
oh yeah youre also forgetting your free health insurance up there. you know what i have to pay for basic health insurance? almost 300 a month. i could forgo that but the last time i did to try and get a bankroll started, i ended up with pneumonia- turned into a $4000 hospital visit i had to pay off. so much for moving out that year.
and the dude who posted aboce goin on about you should move out at 24 or whatever youre a loser if you dont- hes a freakin lawyer for cryin out loud! its damn easy to live on your own when you prolly make 80k+ a year. id like to see you live on your own on 20k a year. cant do it buddy, no matter how hard you try, unless you wana go on public assistance. (i wont- i dont take handouts)
nobody pays my bills. ever. if i need a lil cash to get by cause things are tight till payday, yeah i'll borrow 50 bucks or so , but it gets paid back on payday.
lots of places wont let you work overtime , so there goes that option too
many employers wont hire you if you have a second job because they cant schedule you when they need you. some will fire you if you get a second job- its happened to me twice.
i dont take handouts and i work for everything. if i really was a deadbeat i wouldve been asked to leave a long time ago, trust me i know.
its easy to look down on someone when you were able to go to school graduate, and get a good paying job, buy a house and stuff before youre 25. take a good hard look at the numbers- you are the smallest minority.
either way i decided to take a major step towards independence by joining the army. nobody mentioned that either- just wanted to rip on me to make themselves look/feel better about themselves.
to all the people like me or that see the situations people get stuck in and at least understand, thank you for being a real person. to all the people who are looking down on me, i hope you get taken to the cleaners in your next divorce and you end up right where i am now | |
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/14/2008 7:20:17 AM |
The difference being, when I made an inappropriate potentially insulting comment, I admitted it was wrong of me, and uncalled for. I have yet to experience any sort of apology or admittance from the opposition regarding their very rude and generalizing comments.
I didn't read all 15 pages of comments. But even if there were no insults either way, there is an inaccurate assumption that people who stay at home are momma's boys, immature, etc., while those who move out are independent minded, ambitious, etc. One is automatically seen as flawed while the other is automatically seen as not. So even while being diplomatic, you and many others anchor your arguments on that point of view.
All I did was try to reverse that scenario. What if we automatically assumed that people who moved out were stupid and childish? While those who stayed home were the smart ones. I wasn’t trying to insult anyone. I choose my words carefully. I said:
What can you say about these people? They must have been impulsive to move out so quickly. Short sighted. Financially irresponsible. Childish and naive to think they can make it out there.
Of course, I don't necessarily believe this to be the case in every instance. But for every person we think is a "momma's boy" for staying at home, I think it's only fair to prejudge someone who moved out early as financially stupid. | |
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/14/2008 9:10:22 AM |
somebody here actually understands. when i said handed opporitunities, i meant it. down here in the us you dont make good grades and then off to college. you still gotta figure out how to pay for it. if your parents make over a certain dollar amount you dont qualify for any of em. then if youre lucky, VERY lucky you get some scholarships. most dont amount to more than 5,000 a year. then you have the rest of tuition, books , a place to live food etc. college students dont make a whole lot more than minimum wage cause the employers know there are 100 kids looking for the same job. good luck trying to exist on that unless you wana have 4 roomates in a 1 bedroom apt.
Of for the love of God! I left this alone the first time, but I simply can't leave it alone any longer. Do you think that education is free, in Canada? I hate to break it to you, but it's not. I did "have to figure out how to pay for it." I got a job. Not that it's any of your business, but tuition alone cost me about $50,000 not including books, which ran anywhere from $2500-$5000 a year. Likewise, if your parents make a certain dollar amount, you do not qualify for the most common assistance offered. My parents are divorced and I have nothing to do with my father, but because he is very wealthy, I was not able to get any support. I found a nice place to live (as I mentioned before, I was incredibly lucky to pay practically nothing for a goregous 6 bedroom house for myself)
Bottom line...if you think that my education came easy or at little cost, you're out of your freaking mind! Yes, I did get bursuries from the university, for a couple thousand here and there, but that is a direct result of the amount of work and effort I put into my studies, and has absolutely zero to do with my decision to live on my own.
As for saying you have meals put infront of you...I said it once. You stated it wasn't true, I said nothing more about it. Reading the same post over does not count as me saying it again.
Hey, you want to talk about health care? You picked the wrong girl to whine about $300 a month to, my friend. Yes, Canada has a great health care system in place. Something I am very proud of. Don't think for a second though, that we don't pay. You forget that I have cancer, and have spent the last 6 months in and out of the hospital, and it's to the point where the pharmacist knows my name. Your $300 a month you spend on your coverage was blown out of the water on one prescription, in the first two days of this month. I pay thousands of dollars a month to be healthy, so I hardly think that $300 a month is really that bad. It's none of my business, but if $300 for your own health is something to whine about, then you need to put things in perspective.
I would think that somebody who stayed living at home, would have more of an opportunity to get an education, than one of us awful, horrible people that moved out on their own. I am sorry you live below the poverty line, but at the end of the day, that is entirely your decision. While I do understand all of the justifications you are throwing out there, at the end of the day, it's a series of decisions that you have made, that have kept you where you are. I'm not looking down upon you. I just don't think they're valid reasons...everyone is living in the same world, and some people can do it, while others need help to stay afloat. (You said you don't take handouts, but you will borrow money...it's all the same. Needing assistance is needing assistance.)
Again, I was never looking down on you at all. I just don't understand your defensiveness and reasoning for staying at home. As I have said numerous times now...there are good reasons to be at home, and if someone is there for a good reason, I have no problem with that. Your excuses don't come off as a good reason to me, and all that means is that I wouldn't date you. I'm sure that's not a big loss for you because you think i'm a royal b!tch already, and have zero understanding of the point I make.
I guess we can't be friends
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/14/2008 9:52:03 AM | Drakeo or whatever his name was, very proudly proclaimed that he was living with his Mom until the age of 30 and that was that, and if a woman didn't like that, too bad. When called on this, he then came out with the "oh I have no choice, I'm a student and it costs $35,000 a year for that." Funny he missed these details in his original post. "
You didnt "call him" on anything. You went into an insulting arrogant tirade without even knowing all the facts. You're the one who ended up looking foolish. and I'm not the only poster who thinks that.
"Hey, if grown adults want to justify living with their parents, go for it. If you have problems finding someone to have a relationship with, don't be surprised. Many of us moved out in our very early 20s and we did what we had to, to not only put a roof over our heads but to put ourselves through university/college. It CAN be done, millions do it every single day. And years later we've got a great career, a home we own, and a good life - and a sense of independence and responsibility that you just can't get when Mommy & Daddy are there to foot the bill. "
So you moved out at an earlier age. What do you want? a medal? Do you think that makes you some sort of martyr? nobody cares. Yes it can be done. However people are different people have different priorities different circumstances. different lifestyles different beliefs. It's this mentality "I had it tough so everyone else has to have it tough to" I moved out when I was 20 so everyone else has to move out by the time they are 20 to" This way of thinking is absolute nonsense. Stop looking at life through a pair of binoculars and realize that people are different. and you know what? many people I know who moved out at 18-20 DIDN'T get good careers and are still financially struggling 10-15-20 years later. and many people who moved out later found people to date/marry have a good career and were able to afford a downpayment on a home (quite easily due to all the money they saved living at home) Leaving home at an earlier age is no guarantee of future happiness. neither is living at home. I'm rational and mature enough to realize that.
It's fine if you don't want to date someone who lives at home but to insult, put down and judge someone who does in a rather sad way to elevate one's self esteem is utterly immature and only displays one's rather poor character.
"But hey, however one wants to justify their decision to keep the umbilical cord intact"
At 40 years old, I would expect more from you. lucretia21 acknowledged her mistake and acted like an adult she apologized. She was able to convoy her points in an intelligent and rational manner. Unlike you.
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/14/2008 2:39:21 PM | I moved out at 18 and had to move back in again at 27.
The rents and mortgages here are so high at the moment I cant afford to move out. I didn't move back in until I was going into the red each month trying to meet rent and bills etc, I didn't want to be living back with 'mummy and daddy' as it makes me feel like a complete loser.
Tried to buyas well as repayments are less than rent but I cant get a mortgage for enough. Im waiting for recession and repossetions now so I can get on the housing ladder  | |
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/15/2008 9:20:28 AM | I suppose it's a personal decision that we all make, at some point. However, to assume anyone who is independent of their parents at a young age is in any way irresponsible is slightly ridiculous!
I would think that moving out of your parents to an apartment where you struggle to pay bills is irresponsible. It is not a good financial decision. I do not see how living in an apartment barely getting by is more attractive then living with parents and saving money. | |
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/15/2008 9:27:07 AM | I come from an Italian family and there is no push really from them to move out. I moved out when I was 28 although when I was 25 I lived on my own for 4 months as I worked up in Yellowknife.
I got along fine with my parents but felt last year it was time to move on. Some of my relatives stay with the parents until they get married but I knew for me, I wanted some experience living on my own. I lived for about 3 months on my own before I found a roommate. I think it's important to live on your own before you settle down with someone.
I think it depends on the individual and what situation they are in. I personally think you should be out by 30 unless you have a legitimate reason to be back with your parents (i.e. you are sick or they are sick)
Also the rule in my family is once you move out, you are not allowed back in. so I had to make sure I was ready.
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/15/2008 9:38:29 AM |
You act like its dependency. Its not. Its a choice. Therein lies the difference
Okay. A choice to be dependant. Nothing but semantics.
Drakeo - you started off by arrogantly going off on a rant about how you were dang well going to live at home until you were 30 and if a woman had a problem with that, too dang bad for her. Nowhere in that post did you explain why you're living at home; that you're going to school, that you're helping out your widowed Mom -- those facts only conveniently came out further down this thread. That's interesting. Let's revisit:
Drakeo, post # 301 - I plan on living at home until I'm 28. Hell, even 30. Because it makes no sense not to. Because its simply idiotic to go out and pay rent to a third party where I'd rather just pay it to family members ior. Its not for lack of funds, I don't foresee I'll have much difficulty there. Its because I'd rather have the money in the bank and the security to know I can live where I want and how I want.
My brother is a a 27 year old engineer and lives at home. He has absolutely no problem getting girls and more money than most people on here who will claim he's a moocher. Alternatively, I have many friends who work minimum wage or thereabout and live in apartments not even 2 miles form their homes and yet, 'for some reason' are in constant money problems. So you tell me, they're more mature simply because they've decided their decision to leave alone makes them so? I think its far more immature to
And you know what? I'm close to my family. I'm sorry so many of you are desperate to get away from your family, but I actually enjoy mine. I want someone who will appreciate that and not feel 'independent' enough until we're two cities over. If I tell a girl I plan and living at home until I'm 30 and she's turned off, well good riddance. She can go move in with my much more mature buddy who has his own sweet apartment and works at Pizza Hut.
Hmmm, no mention of going to school or a widowed Mom - just a lot of bragging about how you're basically too good (your brother, too) to have to live in an apartment. And your brother has more money than most - he's an engineer, 27 and still living at home? I guess this sense of entitlement and being "too good" to have to pay rent and live in a small apartment runs in the family?
I have no issues with someone who is going to college or university and remains at home because of the cost of schooling; nor do I take issue with someone who is genuinely back at home because they're helping their elderly or financially strapped parents out - not at all....but to those who choose to do it because they think they're "above" having to live in a small apartment, or maybe have to live in a roommate-type situation -- or because they feel a sense of entitlement such that they shouldn't have to spend their money on rent and groceries and utility bills but instead should be able to live expense/rent-free with the folks so that they can blow their money on fun and partying and toys -- and ultimately have no financial responsibility - I think that's what's pathetic.
One of my best friends from high school stayed living at home until he was 27. Mommy & Daddy fully paid for school, he got a great job once he graduated - made more than enough to live on his own but he was greedy and a mooch. Stupidly, they didn't charge him rent and he contributed nothing toward groceries, utilities, etc. He had this sense of entitlement - that they were his parents and they "owed him" a free roof over his head. He expected his Mom to do his laundry and make his meals, and stupidly she did. He made more money than most his age and he blew it on partying, vacations, expensive cars, you name it. He never learned how to budget or manage his money. When he did move out at the age of 27 (they finally kicked him out of the cozy nest), he was lost. Couldn't pay his rent on time, couldn't budget, couldn't be responsible with his money, would get evicted for not paying his rent, the places he rented he had no respect for and he'd trash them. He overspent and ended up living on credit and credit cards. He ended up having to declare bankruptcy and to this day he resents Ma and Pa for having kicked him out and still believes if they hadn't, he wouldn't be in this mess. He's messed up.
So for those who are well past the age to be living at home; do you at least work and contribute? Do you pay SOME rent? Do you think it's free for your parents to support you? Do you help with groceries and utilities? Do you think that food and electricity are free? Do you help around the house with housework and yardwork to at least earn your keep? Do you at least do your own laundry? | |
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Posted: 6/15/2008 10:12:36 AM |
I would think that moving out of your parents to an apartment where you struggle to pay bills is irresponsible. It is not a good financial decision. I do not see how living in an apartment barely getting by is more attractive then living with parents and saving money.
This, right here is part of the problem. Just because someone doesn't live at home, does not mean they are struggling. There are more options than just living at home and "saving money" or struggling to pay bills.
Assuming that with independence comes financial burden is just as bad as assuming that those who are not capable of independence are deadbeats, would you not agree? | |
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Posted: 6/15/2008 3:26:52 PM | This, right here is part of the problem. Just because someone doesn't live at home, does not mean they are struggling. There are more options than just living at home and "saving money" or struggling to pay bills.
Assuming that with independence comes financial burden is just as bad as assuming that those who are not capable of independence are deadbeats, would you not agree?
Why I said this is because some people can not afford to move out or they would be in this situation. People are making saying you should move out when some people can't because thier job does not pay enough. | |
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Posted: 6/15/2008 4:25:51 PM | I realize that they really just plain old don't want to move out, and therefore, the following statement is completely lost on them, but isn't the logical thing if you're not getting paid what it takes to survive in the world, as an adult, to get a new job?
Just saying. I have a certain dollar amount that I absolutely refuse to get paid less than. This has been the case since before I had an education, so for those of you who are going to say it's because I have a degree, it's not. I just know what my time is worth, and what it will cost me to support myself.
Getting a well paying job requires hard work. I'm not saying anything in particular about those living at home, but somewhere along the way, something has to stop them from getting a better job. Is it that little gem?
What is it, guys? What stops you?
I've heard the saving money reason, the going to school reason, the in debt reason, and now i'm hearing the "I don't get paid enough reason." There is no escaping the financial burden of going to school, nor your previous poor money management, but there is a very easy solution to not getting paid enough. It's to get a job that pays more, or to excel at the job you do have, and make yourself and your time a valuable asset to your employer. | |
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/16/2008 3:21:17 AM | It's to get a job that pays more, or to excel at the job you do have, and make yourself and your time a valuable asset to your employer.
That would be great if it was that easy to get a better paying job that would pay enough. But those jobs are scare especially now with the economy being so bad. Yes you can go to college but college takes money and not everyone has money to go to college. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2008 6:02:07 PM | "This, right here is part of the problem. Just because someone doesn't live at home, does not mean they are struggling. There are more options than just living at home and "saving money" or struggling to pay bills."
No it doesn't mean they are struggling if you earn enough to support yourself then yeah you should probably move out but moving out when you don't earn enough to support yourself is not anymore responsible then living at home. I think it's a rather poor financial descision myself. Yeah I know they're better options getting a better job, better money managment skills etc. but these things take time.
Some people just take a bit longer to get settled that's all. | |
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/16/2008 10:10:09 PM | "but to those who choose to do it because they think they're "above" having to live in a small apartment, or maybe have to live in a roommate-type situation -- or because they feel a sense of entitlement such that they shouldn't have to spend their money on rent and groceries and utility bills but instead should be able to live expense/rent-free with the folks so that they can blow their money on fun and partying and toys -- and ultimately have no financial responsibility - I think that's what's pathetic. "
Fair enough, I don't think I'm "above" anything infact I wouldnt mind living in a small apartment as long as it was clean and safe. Howver I wouldnt live with a roomate unless I really knew them well or I absolutely had to. I prefer my own living space if that means a small place then so be it. Atleest it will be mine. I do plan on moving out just not now. I'm not financially ready (I just got my first entry level job even a month ago) and yes I do my own laundry | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 8:40:19 AM | That your critiquing me for not including all the relevant facts demonstrates point: don't make presumptions when you don't know the facts, otherwise you're bound to make statements in folly.
And.... btw, its more about minimizing transaction costs than shirking responsibility and partying it up with the saved money. I'm not 'above' anything and I think my stance is fundamentally counter to arrogance. In fact, I've rented a converted office for 200 a month for the 2 years I've attended law school so far, for exactly the same reasons I intend to live a spell at home. I guess I view my home as little more than where I sleep, so my sense of independence isn't really attached to it.
So, its not really a choice to be dependent, rather a choice to take the money that would be otherwise spent securing your idea/fantasy of independence and instead investing it. Like, I said, I don't link my independence to whether I live alone or not, but rather my ability to do so if I chose. More concisely, my view of independence is one where I've completely free of debt. Since, I'll be graduating with 60k in debt, I view the most expedient way of attaining MY IDEA of independence is to cut costs for a few years and put all of that money into paying back the debtors. (That I'll have managed through 4 years at 25k a year, followed immediately by 35k for 3 yrs with ONLY 60k in debt should tell you I'm not really beyond working in school/living cheaply.)
Furthermore, I wouldn't work harder or save any more if I lived alone, I wouldn't really need too. I just strive to avoid wasted income. Tis all. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 9:11:47 AM | Oh and yeah, I don't plan on taking all the benefits of minimized transaction costs for myself. I try to view my mom's help (as I'm sure she does as well) as more as a personal investment for her in my persona age. I never really thought she 'owed' me anything. Its my intention to repay her in at least the amount of my student loans.
This all said just to demonstrate that its all in context. Suppose I left out all the details because I didn't want to extol my story to everyone. But your reaction to my earlier detail free post perfectly demonstrates the point I've been trying to make this entire thread: everyone should try to combat their natural tendency to make assumptions about the lives of others.
It seems most of you problems with my decisions, Wutz, are resultant from your merging of me, a stranger, with your prior friend who you may very well deserve your ire. It may also well be that the vast majority of the people who chose the live at home until their mid 20s are siphons on their parents. I do indeed know more people in that situation than mine. I also know a lot of people who have left home only to replace their dependence on their parents with dependence on creditors or worse yet the government.
Its just that making such broad assumptions is easy and almost always dangerous. Its, in fact, the cause of a many, if not most, of history's major conflicts. Everyone has their own personal stereotypes of people based upon their prior experiences with people. These stereotypes are often based in truth and sometimes even useful; maybe your decision to avoid those in my situation is wise as you'll avoid all those who are like the other fella you mentioned. Since, I prioritize capacity for intellectual discourse in my friends maybe I'd ensure I'd have no 'dumb' friends if I made a college degree a prerequisite for my friendship.
But the cost on exercising a little more patience and delaying judgment is certainly less than the cost of removing all the potential experience you summarily deny yourself with holding to such hard and fast prohibitions. My best friends are the ones I thought the least of when I met them, probably because they force me to expand my horizons and instigate a personal renaissance.
As a point, despite my personal biases, the person I consider most influential in my intellectual development took one semester at community college and dropped out. Luckily I met him before my life's experiences could shape me into a full-on elitist prick. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 9:50:22 AM | I realize that they really just plain old don't want to move out, and therefore, the following statement is completely lost on them, but isn't the logical thing if you're not getting paid what it takes to survive in the world, as an adult, to get a new job?
I do want to move out. I don't wanna move out and struggle to barely get by. How iam supposed to date if I spend all my money on rent and food? | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 9:54:29 AM | I do want to move out. I don't wanna move out and struggle to barely get by. How iam supposed to date if I spend all my money on rent and food?
Not to mention it kind of glides over the fact that many people can't simply get a new job. I mean... whats the percentage of our population currently considered impoverished? 12? 15? Besides, some have to be the janitors of society. Were so easy for everyone to be an astronaut, everyone would be an astronaut.
Oh, I just saw this...
No kidding......how dare a parent let their child run up 35K a year in loans, (which is BS) while attending a private day university, unemployed and mooching off them.....those parents need interdiction! LMAO!
http://www.law.indiana.edu/prospective/finance_long.shtml#fees
Coincidentally, I've never attended a private school. I did get a scholarship to defray the costs though, so I suppose I was just estimating.
Just saying. I have a certain dollar amount that I absolutely refuse to get paid less than. This has been the case since before I had an education, so for those of you who are going to say it's because I have a degree, it's not. I just know what my time is worth, and what it will cost me to support myself.
This is good for you. But you evidently live in a different world. This is simply not the case for most people. Its the reality that many people, particularly those of poorer backgrounds, have at most one chance at making it. If they slip up, even once, it becomes very difficult to get back on track. I've seen it innumerable times. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 11:08:39 AM | There is never a "too old" to live with your parents, because it all comes down to circumstance. Americans are quick to judge and slow to learn.
I moved out from my father's house at age 17 to attend a university. From that point forward, I've always paid all my own bills (tuition, dorm costs, books, food, car insurance, etc.) -- scholarships helped quite a bit.
At age 27, I decided to rent a room from my mother at full cost (i.e. the same price she had it listed at for her roommate search). I have my own condo fully paid off and was looking for a roommate myself at the time. After 12 months living on my own following a divorce, I decided that 1140 square feet to oneself is just, quite simply, wasteful from an energy perspective. The situation is ideal since it allowed me to rent out my condo to another family, thereby turning a profit, reduce my carbon footprint (due to reduced energy expenditures), live closer to work thereby further reducing carbon footprint, and help my mother turn a profit as well by having her extra room idle for less time than it would have otherwise. Furthermore, my mother had lived alone for many years now and suffers from depression, so she says it has helped her well-being.
Would I date or get into a relationship with a woman living with one or both of her parents? Absolutely, but it depends on the circumstance. I would want to know all the details -- whether or not she's a student and if so how many years she's been a student, how much rent she pays her parent(s) if any, whether or not she buys her own groceries, and her age.
There's no need to believe what others tell you. This is the same society that bombards you with advertising that tells you to spend till you drop. What does it get you? More clutter and more financial stress. They say over-leverage, high credit limits, two mortgages, 0% down, home equity lines of credit, buy fancy clothes, lust after expensive vehicles, buy alcohol at bars and restaurants to paying fat margins, have today by spending what you'll make tomorrow, and that all that "stuff" will somehow make you happy. This is the same society that values "stuff" over family.
The homo sapiens' motto, "Let's go shopping!" is the cry of the true lunatic. | |
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/17/2008 11:40:44 AM | If I ever made the mistake of having children, I would take the responsibility %100. I learned from my parents mistakes and I know I'd be an excellent parent... I'd let my kid(s) live with me as long as they wanted. When I got old I would have them take care of me. They would be my friends and companions.
I was thinking about this the other day: If someone didn't rush out into the rat race, struggling for so called independence, perhaps they didn't get distracted by the things that keep you from knowing yourself. They didn't have to work 5 jobs. They didn't have to constantly race everywhere just to live. They didn't get 4 hours of sleep at their $1500 per month sleeping chamber....
They had time to get to know themselves. They had time to learn who they are and how they affect other people....
I go through periods of financial instability. I don't stress on it, I just get through it. I have confidence in who I am and my ability to make money. What an empty screwed up thing to have confidence about.
I didn't rush from my parents, to spend years struggling for independence. I lived at home for years after 18, figured myself out, and taught myself how to be emotionally and financially independent.
18 years old is when most teens are really pissed off at the world. 12 years of "education" that turned out to be empty lies. Worrying about how you're gonna support yourself with no real education. Worrying about how you're gonna get to college. Upset that just about everything you had been taught was lies.
Perfect time to go out in the world and be pissed off like everyone else, and chase your tail trying to get independence.
I have many male and female friends who are *very* financially successful. They struggled for years to gain it. They appreciate the mental and emotional stability that I was able to learn for myself. I saw all the distractions and meaningless struggle, and decided to work on WHO I AM(my mind)... not WHAT I HAVE (physical things)
since gaining (sometimes absent) financial stability, I have things. Car. Computer. Motorcycles. Digital Camera... blah blah blah
if it all burned up in a fire, I would not be upset. I'll still be who I am.
one thing I would be upset about losing is my writings. Things I've done, not things I bought. computer programs, poems, rantings. I like to continue work on those, or re-read them to remember....
photographs, digital photos.. I don't need those either. I met those people. I travelled to those places. My memory has all of those images, and I can look at them any time...
we are all so blinded by the capitalist society we live in.
If you don't know what makes true happiness, you'll die without ever finding it. And in the life you lead in the meantime will be empty of meaning.
he who dies with the most toys is dead, and all the toys go to whoever the will says they go to, or the gov't takes em.
he who dies with the most wisdom and positive effect on people is remembered, and people strive to be as much of that person they remember. | |
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| How old is too old to still be living with your parents? Would you date someone that still did?
Posted: 6/17/2008 11:52:23 AM | | i didn't read all 15 pages, but I was dating a guy that was older than me, he was 24 and he never invited me over his house because his "roomates" were always home. turns out his roomates were his parents. the relationship ended the minute i heard that. It would be one thing if he was looking for a new place or if he was in school or something, but he had a job and was just freeloading off his parents. | |
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